1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/torch-d August 2008 2 118 13_Re: Is it me?10_Louise Fox20_fox.louise@GMAIL.COM30_Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:36:12 +0300642_ISO-8859-1 Russell,

Apology accepted - sometimes it can be confusing trying to figure out who
started a thread and who asked the original question(s).

But I take strong exception to your statement that "home schooling is a lot
like school schooling." (Even if it wasn't directed at me!)
In my opinion, and in my family's life, there is no comparison!!! Absolutely
no point of comparison whatsoever! I know some people do "school at home"
but that does not describe the majority of homeschoolers - many, many of us
are unschoolers. In fact, the *majority* in this country (Israel) are
unschoolers. Some [...]41_3Aug200816:36:12+0300fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 121 71 25_Math curriculum available6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET30_Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:38:54 -0600375_ISO-8859-1 I don't know our list policy on this, so I am posting and will wait to see
if it goes through.

I have a Shiller Math set available for sale (Kit One ­ K-3) and want to
make it available to this list before putting it on ebay. If anyone is
interested, please email off list at najova@earthlink.net and I will give
you the price and details. [...]41_3Aug200807:38:54-0600najova@EARTHLINK.NET 193 50 9_Is it me?16_Russell J Hendel17_rjhendel@JUNO.COM30_Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:18:48 -0400633_us-ascii Louise
1st of all I well understand home-schooling - I home schooled for 2 years
and produced 400 sheets on chumash and Rashi which I sometimes mention on
this list.

You misunderstood my statement. When I said "home schooling is like
school schooling" it was in a CONTEXT of trying to make peace between
hostile parents / in-laws and home schoolers. It was not an absolute
statement. Of course home schooling is vastly different. But the point to
make to continuingly hostile parents and in-laws is that due to
technology home-schooling is "more like" school schooling then it use to
[...]38_3Aug200812:18:48-0400rjhendel@JUNO.COM 244 97 42_someone looking to interview homeschoolers15_Rachel Gurevich25_rachel.gurevich@GMAIL.COM30_Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:06:56 +0300484_ISO-8859-1 Passing on a request to interview homeschoolers... this is for Mishpacha
magazine.

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From: Riva Pomerantz

Hi Rachel,

That would be great! The article is for Mishpacha magazine. I'm doing a
broad-spectrum, completely unbiased piece just talking about all the
different options, how people do it, etc. There will be no "angle", no
hostility, and nothing unflattering :-). [...]46_4Aug200811:06:56+0300rachel.gurevich@GMAIL.COM 342 70 46_Re: someone looking to interview homeschoolers6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET30_Mon, 4 Aug 2008 07:11:09 -0600353_US-ASCII My family ended up as the subjects when Mishpacha Junior did a piece on
homeschooling a couple of years ago. They interviewed my then-7 year old
son. I have to say it was a great experience and it turned out very well.
I cannot, however speak to how the main magazine will approach it. They are
two totally different entities. [...]41_4Aug200807:11:09-0600najova@EARTHLINK.NET 413 126 33_Audio Tape to Digital Conversions16_Rebecca Masinter19_rmasinter@GMAIL.COM30_Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:12:35 -0400353_us-ascii Does anyone have any ideas on how to easily and inexpensively transfer audio
cassettes to a digital format? We have hundreds of children's educational
tapes but our last tape recorder just broke and I would like to get them
into mp3 format. (I did try doing it myself with a computer program but
found it very time consuming.) [...]40_4Aug200810:12:35-0400rmasinter@GMAIL.COM 540 231 37_Re: Audio Tape to Digital Conversions10_Larry Beck19_larry@BECKFORCE.COM30_Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:08:16 -0400516_us-ascii Rebecca,

If your computer has a sound card (or on-board) sound that came with any
software then you can plug the tape recorder into the input jack and record
it. Then the computer can write a CD or DVD that is readable by a CD/DVD
player.

Larry Beck

From: Torah-Centered Homeschooling [mailto:TORCH-D@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of
Rebecca Masinter
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:13 AM
To: TORCH-D@SHAMASH.ORG
Subject: [TORCH-D] Audio Tape to Digital Conversions [...]40_4Aug200811:08:16-0400larry@BECKFORCE.COM 772 103 37_Re: Audio Tape to Digital Conversions11_David Rubin19_dinadavid@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:32:31 -07000_40_4Aug200809:32:31-0700dinadavid@YAHOO.COM 876 311 37_Re: Audio Tape to Digital Conversions15_Borisute Family18_borisute@GMAIL.COM30_Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:02:45 -0400450_US-ASCII I have no idea, but here is my husbands response.

The only practical way is to hookup a cassette player's headphone to a
computer's mic and record each whole side to a single WAV file, then split
it into separate mp3s, or one long one.

See http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5020866-1.html

I tried something called the "plusdeck" but the software used to control it
was awful and it was a waste of money. [...]39_4Aug200813:02:45-0400borisute@GMAIL.COM 1188 67 16_Re: shiller math6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET30_Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:16:03 -0600360_ISO-8859-1 Thank you to everyone who responded to my post. I sold the set to the first
bidder, so if it wasnıt you, Iım sorry.

Good luck with your search for materials. Always check ebay and craigslist
(even in other cities). There are amazing deals to be had on homeschool
materials, curriculums, and supplies.

~Shoshana in Denver [...]41_6Aug200818:16:03-0600najova@EARTHLINK.NET 1256 64 15_Substance Abuse6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:33:19 -0600376_US-ASCII My husband did a guest post on http://orthonomics.blogspot.com. The piece
is in response to the growing discussion related to substance abuse in the
Jewish community. As I consider our list to be comprised of independent
thinkers and those deeply concerned with the future generation, perhaps this
will be of interest to members of our list as well. [...]42_13Aug200809:33:19-0600najova@EARTHLINK.NET 1321 62 24_[QUAR] father's concerns10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL31_Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:45:43 +0300577_ISO-8859-1 Hi,

My husband is having some concerns about our 6 year old boy, who is not
reading yet. DH also feels that DS's prayer and bible skills are not up
to par. With the back-to-school spirit in the air, he felt we ought to
put DS into school this year.

Are there are any parents out there of older (post bar mitzvah)
homeschooled boys who would be willing to talk to my husband on the
phone about your kids and experiences? My husband's not a big
writer/e-mailer. If so, would you please send us a note and contact info
off-list? [...]39_14Aug200816:45:43+0300svkopp@012.NET.IL 1384 186 28_Re: [QUAR] father's concerns10_Louise Fox20_fox.louise@GMAIL.COM31_Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:40:13 +0300476_ISO-8859-1 Hi Sarah,

My 8yo was not into reading and davening at age 6, but he was keen on
listening to tapes and CDs. He learned a lot of davening by memorizing and
in the last year or so has taken more interest in the fact that he can
actually read the words as he says them. He's also reached the stage where
he can read/learn more of the davening than he originally learned by heart.
It's exciting to see/hear him gradually doing more and more. [...]42_15Aug200800:40:13+0300fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 1571 316 28_Re: [QUAR] father's concerns13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:28:55 -0700556_windows-1252 Hi, Sarah,
 
I'm sure my husband would be happy to speak to yours. Do you still have our number?  Feel free to print out whatever I wrote to share with him, if that's more useful. 
 
I took the 'better late than early' approach with my oldest son, now 15, whom you met.  He did learn to read early, because we were living in Israel, so he started at 3.  But I delayed other things when I didn't feel he was ready or it would have been premature - chumash, shul attendance, and gemara.
 
I was warned by the rabbi of the [...]44_16Aug200819:28:55-0700avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 1888 793 17_Re: boys learning0_17_renalevin@AOL.COM31_Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:29:07 -0400522_us-ascii Sarah: wieghing in quickly here, cuz I have way too much to do to play on the computer today.

have to echo Avivah here. We have a boy (bli ayin hora 21 now) who we pulled out of 6th grade to homeschool him (10 years ago). He was in a homeschool learning group for 7 through 10th grade with a rebbe, continuing to bang his head on gemorrah. he tells me that he was there mostly for social reasons, cuz you need to be saying that you are learning and cuz his friends were there, and he liked the rebbe, [...]39_17Aug200809:29:07-0400renalevin@AOL.COM 2682 73 28_Re: [QUAR] father's concerns11_Esther Rena20_learnnow64@GMAIL.COM31_Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:09:13 -0500558_ISO-8859-1 Dear Sara,

our son did not read until the end of when he would have been in first
grade. he would have had tutors and been behind. Instead, when he caught on
to the reading he flew with it - hebrew and english. He read the whole
haggadah that Pesach. he is in school now having begun in 4th grade after
having made a siyum Mishnayos with my husband. They started learning Gemoro
at the end of this school year ( 4th ). Learn-to learn Chumash and gemoro
softwware and flashcards are very good once he started reading. [...]42_17Aug200823:09:13-0500learnnow64@GMAIL.COM 2756 54 32_Update on us and books for sale.13_Barbara Mazor19_barbmazor@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:58:25 -0700291_iso-8859-1 Hi everyone -

Those of you who have been here a long time remember me.  It's a long time since I have posted. My boys are now 17 and 12, and have been in school for the last 3 and 2 years, respectively.  They are thriving.  I've been with the list for about 10 years. [...]41_18Aug200806:58:25-0700barbmazor@YAHOO.COM 2811 27 28_Re: [QUAR] father's concerns10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL31_Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:14:54 +0300666_ISO-8859-1 Thank you to everyone who responded re my husband's concerns about our
ds6. I have printed out all the responses with numbers and if he wants
some clarification or reassurance he can call. Thank you!

Sarah
Tsfat, Israel
(enjoying some delightful quality time with the littlest ones while the
rest are in summer day camp!)

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