1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/torch-d February 2007 2 68 16_Re: English/Math0_17_RENALEVIN@AOL.COM28_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:54:53 EST612_US-ASCII In a message dated 2/1/07 2:01:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@SHAMASH.ORG writes:

> We also use "Jus=
> t Write". =
>

Laya: you wrote about a program called "Just Write". can you tell us more
about it, author/publisher?

Thanks

Rena in Baltimore

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http://www.epsbooks.com/dynamic/catalog/series.asp?seriesonly=2625M
It describes in detail what the book covers. You can also see program overviews or sample pages/lesson. Covers roughly grades 1-4.
EPS also does explode the code
http://www.epsbooks.com/dynamic/catalog/program.asp?seriesonly=1460M

I think I've heard people in this group talk about Wordly Wise... also done by EPS but I haven't used it. Anyone able to comment about that?
Have a great Shabbat,
Laya [...]36_1Feb200715:27:28GMTtolife18@JUNO.COM 194 65 16_writing programs13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:26:33 -0800601_iso-8859-1 I would love to hear more feedback on what writing programs are working well for various families and the ages of children they are using it for.

Here's what we are doing, and it's okay. I'm not thrilled with it, but it works. We are using a combination of Writing Strands for the older three kids and some Critical Thinking Press books (Critical Thinking Activities to Improve Writing Skills, Descriptive Mysteries, Where Abouts, for grammar - Punctuation Puzzlers, Run on Riddlers, Editor in Chief). I am happy with the CTP books, but I use them supplementally, not as a core [...]43_1Feb200708:26:33-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 260 32 7_english15_Michelle Miller25_michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:29:09 -0700442_- I have not found a program I like better for creative writing than "Writing
Strands." Both my children are gifted writers, and I atribute it entirely
to this program. It takes maybe 10 minutes (tops) per day, and by grade 3
it is completely self-directed with mom required only to check the work
every few days. This program consistently wins homeschool favorite awards.
It is a secular program, albeit quite wholesome. [...]46_1Feb200709:29:09-0700michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM 293 36 21_english/language arts15_Michelle Miller25_michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:13:34 -0700423_- Avivah,

We also use Spelling Power. Yes, it's very low key and my kids quiz and
check each other:) I have them in a writing class at a homeschool co-op so
my 6th grader is getting the dreaded "term paper" instruction from someone
else. They've also worked on newspaper pages in this class, which was so
fun for them. My children really enjoy Writing Strands because it doesn't
involve me much. [...]46_1Feb200713:13:34-0700michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM 330 51 11_Re: english8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:51:50 -0500650_ISO-8859-1 at what grade level/age does writing strands start?

:)
katherine

On 2/1/07, Michelle Miller wrote:
> I have not found a program I like better for creative writing than "Writing
> Strands." Both my children are gifted writers, and I atribute it entirely
> to this program. It takes maybe 10 minutes (tops) per day, and by grade 3
> it is completely self-directed with mom required only to check the work
> every few days. This program consistently wins homeschool favorite awards.
> It is a secular program, albeit quite wholesome.
>
>
> We use separate programs [...]39_1Feb200713:51:50-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 382 81 13_Daily routine15_[Rivkah Estrin]20_rivkahestrin@AOL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:09:17 -0500542_us-ascii Hi,

I am new to home schooling, just getting started with my 3-year-old, and I have a few "newbie" questions. How do most of you structure your days? Do you have specific time that is allotted for school or does it change depending on what you have going on in a particular day? Obviously my daughter is too young for a completely structured day, but I am curious if it is beneficial to her to know that during my son's nap time (about 2 hours) we do our lesson of the day, whether it be a computer game, baking, tending [...]41_1Feb200713:09:17-0500rivkahestrin@AOL.COM 464 34 15_jewish history?15_Bara Loewenthal26_bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:59:49 -0700550_iso-8859-1 Hi all,

I have a quick question. My kids (7,6) really enjoy history. I read a
chapter every day from the Child's history of the world by Virgil Hillyer
and they always beg me to read more. It is written like a story, but it
includes most of the important dates and events, we put all that on our
giant timeline. I made the timeline for both Jewish and Comon Calendars. I
put the non jewish events on the top and the jewish events on the bottom. I
am having hard time trying to find a good jewish history book [...]47_1Feb200714:59:49-0700bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM 499 75 25_Re: english/language arts14_Hadas laureano20_hadasl@SBCGLOBAL.NET30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:40:15 -0800566_iso-8859-1 Ive been taking notes on the different resources
several of you have given out...like "writing strands"
and "spelliing power", etc. but could you please
indicate whether they are books, computer
games....what exactly they are and how I could obtain
them???? thank you so much....Hadas in los angeles
ps my daughter is in 5th grade. Please let me know
any english, math , writing skills,
spelling...whatever resources youve used that you
recommend...thank you Hadas
--- Michelle Miller wrote: [...]41_1Feb200715:40:15-0800hadasl@SBCGLOBAL.NET 575 28 15_writing strands15_Michelle Miller25_michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:46:43 -0700298_- I think we started Writing Strands in 1st grade with an audio tape and
storybook. I started my third child with it in 2nd grade/ Level 2 and that
was fine. I think now that my sixth grader is on level 5, that is
comparable to 8th-9th grade level work (for whatever that's worth:)). [...]46_1Feb200717:46:43-0700michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM 604 41 11_for newbies15_Michelle Miller25_michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:54:27 -0700575_- I highly recommend reading, "Better Late than Early" by Dorothy and Raymond
Moore. It will help you to understand the cognitive development of
children. They need so much play time and tactile stimulation, time
outdoors, helping you cook and clean. Believe me, if your child wants a
routine, make it helping you with the housework, so when they are 12 you
won't have to do much:) Lots of arts and crafts, music, non-electric toys
and NO computer. Yikes, it is not good at all for a 3 year old to have
screen time like that. It's much worse than a [...]46_1Feb200717:54:27-0700michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM 646 66 19_Re: jewish history?18_Benjamin H Dickman27_bdickman@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:05:05 -0500649_us-ascii I like the Art Scroll history books
"History of the Jewish People".
Volume 1 covers Bayith Sheni:
http://www.artscroll.com/Books/hi1h.html
and Volume 2 covers from end of Bayith Sheni
to Hai Gaon (1038 CE):
http://www.artscroll.com/Books/hi2h.html

The books deals with the dating differences
between the secular and Jewish history views,
and gives the Jewish sources.

My 11 y.o. daughter reads it with no problem,
but her reading level is around grade 7.
When I read to my 8 y.o. I actually filter it
into easier English on her level and skip parts
that she wouldn't be interested in. [...]48_1Feb200720:05:05-0500bdickman@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM 713 88 44_Teaching facts of life (was: Today's Parsha)18_Benjamin H Dickman27_bdickman@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:07:38 -0500565_us-ascii bs'd

The Gemara tells of Chizqiya HaMelekh putting up swords over
the Batei Midrash in his realm to show "the book or the sword"
(o safra o saifa). They checked everywhere and found that even children
knew the laws of Tum'ah and Tahara. Now, with the Beit HaMiqdash
in existence, it was necessary for everyone to know about Tum'ah
and Tahara so no one would enter the Miqdash b'tum'ah or touch
anything that was qodesh. Niddoth wore a special garment indicating
their status so that no one would become tamei through them. [...]48_1Feb200721:07:38-0500bdickman@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM 802 123 17_Re: Daily routine14_Evelyn Krieger18_ek2000@COMCAST.NET30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:49:16 -0500635_iso-8859-1 Welcome Rivkah,

I think you'll soon see that there is no need for formal lessons at your daughter's age. Everything you do with her will involve learning. Take her to the library. Show her how to find books. Read lots every day: poetry, science, stories.
Music: jewish music and songs; American and folk songs; classics, show tunes. Get her rhythm instruments or make your own. Creative dance.
Art: Lots of crayons, markers, and paints. Let her cut up catalogues and magazines and make her own books.
Torah: Lots of Jewish stories, holiday stories, parasha stories (puppet plays) and dramatizing. Names [...]39_1Feb200721:49:16-0500ek2000@COMCAST.NET 926 53 21_writing strands, etc.15_Michelle Miller25_michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:02:39 -0700329_- Hi Hadas,

Writing Strands has a website: www.writingstrands.com
They answer a lot of your questions as to what level to buy. For instance,
it says on the website that Level 5 is for 15-16 year olds or those that
have finished Level 4. So, you can see that the "levels" do not correlate
to grade levels. [...]46_1Feb200721:02:39-0700michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM 980 45 20_Re: no computer time10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL30_Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:13:33 +0200540_ISO-8859-1 Michelle Miller wrote:
>
> I feel strongly that computer time destroys the desire to read and be
> creative.
>
I couldn't agree more. And we had a lot of bickering and whining going
on around the issue of how much time the kids got, "she played on my
turn" etc...the 20 minutes a day per kid limit expanded because all the
kids would sit around and watch the one on the computer. So last week we
moved the computer back up to my bedroom (I had moved it to a room next
to the kitchen so I could [...]38_2Feb200713:13:33+0200svkopp@012.NET.IL 1026 75 21_writing strands, etc.8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:09:58 -0500443_ISO-8859-1 I have experimented with saxon, singapore, math-u-see (which is
sitting under a sidetable in my dining room now) and a variety of
other workbooks from teacher supply stores and bookstores and we have
settled, finally, beautifully into RightStart Math. We needed
variety but in a very organized systematic way and very little
writing/repetition to get Alana going with the math mind that she
really does have. [...]39_2Feb200710:09:58-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 1102 97 20_Re: no computer time13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM30_Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:21:27 -0800518_iso-8859-1 Our computer rule is 30 minutes per child, which I prefer be used on Sunday and Monday, so I don't hear anything about it for the rest of the week. I used to have the problem of the kids sitting around and watching each other, so it was just waaay too much, even when they were each only playing for 30 min. a week. So I told them if they watch someone else, that counts as their computer time. I don't want playing on the computer to become a social experience because they are all gathered together. [...]43_2Feb200707:21:27-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 1200 64 13_computer time14_Sigal Gottlieb23_sigalgottlieb@YAHOO.COM30_Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:35:53 -0800569_iso-8859-1 We've had a very different experience with computers here, perhaps because my kids are younger? My 6 year old uses the computer to send and read email. This has done wonders for his ability to communicate in writing. He also uses it for Rosetta Stone Hebrew exercises. My 8 year old is less interested in email now, but he searches for books he likes in the library catalog (our library works with other libraries in the state, and although the selection in the local branch is not great the online selection is fabulous) and orders them so we can pick [...]44_2Feb200707:35:53-0800sigalgottlieb@YAHOO.COM 1265 35 20_Re: right start math10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL30_Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:41:19 +0200462_ISO-8859-1 cillakat wrote:
> we have
> settled, finally, beautifully into RightStart Math.
I looked into this program online because it is so highly recommended on
all the homeschooling lists, but I found the siet very confusing. I
couldn't figure out what I needed for my different ages of kids, and
when I wrote to the site for advice, they said I could by the whole
package for K - 6 for $500, which is way too much for me to spend. [...]38_3Feb200722:41:19+0200svkopp@012.NET.IL 1301 35 20_Re: right start math8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:34:43 -0500346_ISO-8859-1 also worth mentioning that some ppl i know use one level for kids
'close enough' in age. Really I could have probably gotten away with
doing C with both girls....I just didn't realize it at the time.

I have another friend who does B with her 5 and 6 year olds (who
according to RightStart would be doing A and B). [...]39_3Feb200722:34:43-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 1337 67 20_Re: right start math8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:31:48 -0500478_ISO-8859-1 << I looked into this program online because it is so highly recommended on
> all the homeschooling lists, but I found the siet very confusing.>>

I agree. It's a mess. When it was recommended to me several mos
ago (when i was prompted to buy it), another friend reminded me that I
did look at it before and was irritated by the confusing website that
was so *not* cohesive, systematic etc and therefor wouldn't buy it.
mistake on my part:) [...]39_3Feb200722:31:48-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 1405 112 17_Re: computer time10_Louise Fox20_fox.louise@GMAIL.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 08:34:34 +0200612_ISO-8859-1 We also have successful use of limited computer time. We have a timer on the
computer which announces "Time's Up!" when the time's up, so there's no
doubt for anyone :-)

My 6 year old has learned a lot of reading from www.starfall.com. And all
the kids have learned a lot from Brainpop (and I highly recommend it to
anyone who does allow computer use to their kids - www.brainpop.com,
www.brainpop.co.il. This is the only thing they do on the computer together.
Any time that someone watches over another's shoulder it counts as their
computer time too, so they don't [...]41_4Feb200708:34:34+0200fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 1518 57 17_Re: computer time17_tolife18@juno.com17_tolife18@JUNO.COM28_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:24:13 GMT677_- Does anyone use filters that they would recommend?

KT,
Laya

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"You Don't Have to Learn Everything the Hard Way"
www.AuntLaya.com
www.tinyurl.com/92up5
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thanks.
emily

On 2/4/07, Louise Fox wrote:
>
> We also have successful use of limited computer time. We have a timer on
> the computer which announces "Time's Up!" when the time's up, so there's no
> doubt for anyone :-)
>
>
>

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disable it with a password in less than 10 seconds. Easy to download and
install.

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In the winter of 1945, on the day of her liberation from 6 years of Nazi rule, Gerda Weissmann clung to life at the end of a
350-mile death march. She weighed 68 pounds, her hair had turned white, and she had not had [...]36_4Feb200715:04:11GMTtolife18@JUNO.COM 1819 29 17_Re: computer time8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:38:55 -0500387_ISO-8859-1 we also pretty much had to do away with computer time for the kids.
limiting it kept them engaged in all sorts of arguments, frustrations
and irritations. however, there are some fairly 'us' specific things
going on wrt temperment, ADHD, tendency to lock into and hyperfocus on
things so our situation will not likely extrapolate out as other
experiences. [...]39_4Feb200710:38:55-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 1849 356 56_Re: TORCH-D Digest - 3 Feb 2007 to 4 Feb 2007 (#2007-23)12_Goldie Meyer23_les_travelled@YAHOO.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:20:52 -0800417_iso-8859-1 Regarding math for younger children: We had excellent results with Miquon math, which is K-3. The workbooks and guides couldn't be more affordable; the presentations are clear, hands-on, and fun; and all we ever needed for manipulatives were Cuisenaire rods.

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TORCH-D automatic digest system wrote:
There are 4 messages totalling 246 lines in this issue. [...]44_4Feb200709:20:52-0800les_travelled@YAHOO.COM 2206 83 17_Re: computer time10_Louise Fox20_fox.louise@GMAIL.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:34:52 +0200612_ISO-8859-1 My husband downloaded it for free from the internet.
:-)
Louise

On 2/4/07, Emily Coplon wrote:
>
> could you please tell me where you got the timer?
> thanks.
> emily
>
> On 2/4/07, Louise Fox wrote:
> >
> > We also have successful use of limited computer time. We have a timer on
> > the computer which announces "Time's Up!" when the time's up, so there's no
> > doubt for anyone :-)
> >
> >
> >
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> The TORCH-D mailing list is hosted by Shamash: The [...]41_4Feb200720:34:52+0200fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 2290 25 56_Re: TORCH-D Digest - 3 Feb 2007 to 4 Feb 2007 (#2007-23)8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:36:04 -0500597_ISO-8859-1 i should also add that we did Miquon at some point as
well....actually, that was our first one iirc before saxon and
singapore and horizons

k

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www.auntlaya.blogspot.com [...]36_4Feb200722:51:29GMTtolife18@JUNO.COM 2376 35 20_Supplements for ADHD15_Bara Loewenthal26_bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:08:13 -0700541_iso-8859-1 Hi all,

I do not want to start a new thread on ADHD, which I remember we had a while
back. I just remember somebody posting a list of supplements that they are
using for their child.I tried searching the archives and I could not find
it. I think we are getting to a point that we should try some other natural
remedies. My almost 8 yo son is having very hard time with focusing on
certain tasks ( 1 page a day from a phonics workbook) and some other things.
It just seem that he is much more anxious [...]47_5Feb200711:08:13-0700bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM 2412 136 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:07:32 -0500378_ISO-8859-1 I use supplements to treat my ADHD with pretty good success. iow, i
am functional, pretty even keeled, and can get things done as long as
i'm taking them. without them, I am not functional, get NOTHING done,
and am, well, volatile.

Here's what I take:
upon rising, empty stomach - 400 mg SAM-e (when Alana used to take
this, we did 200 mg) [...]39_5Feb200714:07:32-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 2549 115 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD17_tolife18@juno.com17_tolife18@JUNO.COM28_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:21:40 GMT533_- Hi Bara,
In addition to adding supplements, you might want to try an elimination diet or check for allergies on the food front. There is a huge difference in my son when we eliminate certain foods. Top things to try in general are gluten, dairy, corn and apples. Don't take them all out at once, but if you're game to try it, eliminate one of those at a time. You might also notice if there are certain times of the day when things are more difficult and see if you notice a connection with meal times. Sometimes a kid can [...]36_5Feb200719:21:40GMTtolife18@JUNO.COM 2665 50 36_Re: Supplements for ADHD (0.14/3.00)14_Rebecca Harper22_hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:56:15 -0500487_ISO-8859-1 My son (6yrs) takes Evening Primrose with Flax Seed oils, vitamin B6 and Calcium/Magnesium.

The Primrose helps with better attitude and behaviour
The B6 helps with concentration
Cal/mag helps with calming him down - esp. at bedtime.

I recently took him off his vitamins to see if there was any effect, and after about a month I really noticed it. It took about a week to get it working again (though it might take longer depending on the individual). [...]43_5Feb200714:56:15-0500hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM 2716 112 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD6_Shayna17_ssheiny@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:38:33 -0800557_iso-8859-1 Hi all,

I've thought about doing supplements with our son, but
I'm terrified I'll somehow screw up his system more.
So where does one go for some professional guidance on
this?

And Laya, can you tell me more about these things you
listed? It's funny, but DS eats a TON of dairy and
apples, so I'm especially curious (and wondering how I
could convince him to replace it with something else)
as to why these things. What kind of difference do
you see, and how do you know to relate it to these
items? [...]38_5Feb200712:38:33-0800ssheiny@YAHOO.COM 2829 92 16_ADHD/supplements0_17_RENALEVIN@AOL.COM28_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:35:33 EST355_US-ASCII since supplements were covered so thorougly, will go another route here.
(though we like nordic naturals, they make an EPA/DHA which is strawberry
flavored and very small, kids are able to chew it if they are young and swallow
it with water, if they are 8,9,10 and able to swallow pills/capsules, have
mastered that life skill). [...]36_6Feb200709:35:33ESTRENALEVIN@AOL.COM 2922 40 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD14_Jennifer Moran20_jrmoran@UCHICAGO.EDU30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:51:48 -0600483_us-ascii Shayna asked:
>I've thought about doing supplements with our son, but
>I'm terrified I'll somehow screw up his system more.
>So where does one go for some professional guidance on
>this?

The fatty acids (EFAs, evening primrose oil, flax oil) are all
non-toxic. The most that will happen if he gets too much is
he'll get temporary diarrhea until you cut back. Some fish
oils contain a lot of vitamin D, so be sure not to overdose on
that. [...]41_6Feb200709:51:48-0600jrmoran@UCHICAGO.EDU 2963 209 20_Re: ADHD/supplements15_Bara Loewenthal26_bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:43:03 -0700582_us-ascii Thanks so much for all the info. We did have our son evaluated almost 1 and
half year ago by behavioral psychiatrist, he came back with ADHD and said
that we will have to at some time consider medication. That started my
homeschooling journey. We have done well with behavior modification and
basically staying on top of all the action in the house. He is very
impulsive but it is getting better all the time. He is quite emotional and
weepy. It comes in stages though. I did try certain diet eliminations and we
did have the allergies tested. We [...]47_6Feb200710:43:03-0700bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM 3173 82 20_Re: ADHD/supplements9_Dr. Swift26_drswift@THERIGHTREMEDY.COM30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:02:09 -0500389_us-ascii Just a quick contribution on this subject. I have worked with many holistic
approaches as a practitioner for YEARS. I have used most of the remedies
already mentioned with at best fair results. One new approach I have just
come across that I think has lots of potential is www.neurogistics.com. I
would encourage you to check it out. I'd appreciate any feedback. [...]47_6Feb200713:02:09-0500drswift@THERIGHTREMEDY.COM 3256 39 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:11:49 -0500378_ISO-8859-1 >>While on the subject of brain health, I want everyone to know
> the connection between seasonal depression and vitamin D
> deficiency. Since I started taking a vitamin D supplement, my
> winters have been so much better...>>

there has been one study done.....vitamin D was a more effective tx
for SAD than an appropriately strong light box. [...]39_6Feb200713:11:49-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 3296 189 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD10_Louise Fox20_fox.louise@GMAIL.COM30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:18:07 +0200305_ISO-8859-1 I'll chime in on the issue of dairy. We used to eat loads of dairy, and now
eat none. I used to crave, really crave, dairy, and it's taken me years to
feel I've got over the craving. Sometimes our bodies crave what is bad for
us - a sign of an unhealthy relationship with a food. [...]41_6Feb200722:18:07+0200fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 3486 62 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:30:11 -0800555_iso-8859-1 >>As to how we got ourselves away from dairy, and what we eat "instead", if you're interested, let me know and I'll share.<<

I'm interested in hearing more!

I love dairy - and didn't eat it for years, until about a year and a half ago we started getting raw milk. I love it! But now, I'm on an anti-candida food plan and all dairy is out (along with most other food :)). I do want to add that raw dairy is very different qualitatively than the typical pasteurized stuff people buy in the store, and has many health benefits. [...]43_6Feb200716:30:11-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 3549 67 24_Re: Supplements for ADHD6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET30_Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:11:41 -0700525_US-ASCII > As to how we got ourselves away from dairy, and what we eat "instead", if
> you're interested, let me know and I'll share.

Dear Louise,

Please tell me how you did it!

Shoshana Z.

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site. The idea of analyzing the neurotransmitter balance looks interesting.
What do the MDs have to say about it?

Larry

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From: Torah-Centered Homeschooling [mailto:TORCH-D@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of
Dr. Swift
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:02 PM
To: TORCH-D@SHAMASH.ORG
Subject: Re: [TORCH-D] ADHD/supplements

Just a quick contribution on this subject. I have worked with many holistic
approaches as a practitioner for YEARS. I have used most of the remedies
already mentioned with at best fair results. One new approach I have just
come across that I think has lots of potential is [...]40_6Feb200723:09:52-0500larry@BECKFORCE.COM 3745 36 20_Re: ADHD/supplements8_cillakat18_cillakat@GMAIL.COM30_Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:36:19 -0500554_ISO-8859-1 <> about it?
>
> Larry >>

Mostly that it's nonsense unless you find a orthomolecular doc to work
with - and they're around but not common.

It is fun to do but imo it's money not necessary to spend. Just a
little reading about neurotransmitters gives a clear understanding of
what is associated behaviorally with symptoms of each....then it's
easy enough to treat with 'raw materials' - ie amino acids and the
co-factors necessary for production of the neurotransmitters. [...]39_7Feb200710:36:19-0500cillakat@GMAIL.COM 3782 45 20_Re: ADHD/supplements10_Larry Beck19_larry@BECKFORCE.COM30_Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:35:21 -0500572_US-ASCII Katherine,

Y'all are in Atlanta??? We are too.

Where are you and how long have you been here?

Larry

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cillakat
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:36 AM
To: TORCH-D@SHAMASH.ORG
Subject: Re: [TORCH-D] ADHD/supplements

<> about it?
>
> Larry >>

Mostly that it's nonsense unless you find a orthomolecular doc to work with
- and they're around but not common. [...]40_8Feb200708:35:21-0500larry@BECKFORCE.COM 3828 69 30_Mishpacha Homeschool Interview6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:41:14 -0700383_US-ASCII Just a quick note to everyone letting you know that my son's homeschool
interview with Mishpacha Junior just came out in the
Tu B'Shevat issue. If you would like to see it, e-mail me off list and I
will send the pdf file. It turned out well and suffered minimal editing.
It's real nachas for our family and, I hope, for all Jewish homeschoolers as
well. [...]42_13Feb200715:41:14-0700najova@EARTHLINK.NET 3898 24 38_95 Websites for Purim -- Happy Holiday16_Russell J Hendel17_rjhendel@JUNO.COM31_Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:14:26 -0500591_us-ascii The J Site - Jewish Education and Entertainment
http://www.j.co.il
has several entertaining features for Purim:

Happy Holidays
Russell

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I went to the web page you suggested and then most of the links and could
not find the Purim info. Could you please give more directions as to where
it is?

Thanks,
Larry

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Subject: [TORCH-D] 95 Websites for Purim -- Happy Holiday [...]41_15Feb200708:33:20-0500larry@BECKFORCE.COM 3973 72 13_Big book sale6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:01:17 -0700415_US-ASCII Please check out http://www.kinderklassics.com. They are having an amazing
sale. To be specific: I just ordered $644.64 worth of books, CDs, DVDs and
craft kits for $170.45 (plus shipping). I kid you not...

Take the time to go through every single section and subsection. You won't
be sorry. And this also helps Yael in a way as her magazine is partnered
with this site (I think?). [...]42_17Feb200723:01:17-0700najova@EARTHLINK.NET 4046 105 17_Re: Big book sale12_Yael Resnick22_njpmail@MINDSPRING.COM31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:25:07 -0500687_us-ascii Thanks for the tip, Shoshana!

KinderKlassics sponsored (in part) the past two issues of Natural
Jewish Parenting, but as of now we do not have any special
partnership. It was a limited arrangement just for those two issues.

I will be checking out their sale!

Yael

>Please check out
>http://www.kinderklassics.com. They
>are having an amazing sale. To be specific: I just ordered $644.64
>worth of books, CDs, DVDs and craft kits for $170.45 (plus
>shipping). I kid you not...
>
>Take the time to go through every single section and subsection.
> You won't be sorry. And this also helps [...]44_18Feb200710:25:07-0500njpmail@MINDSPRING.COM 4152 93 29_eliminating dairy - our story10_Louise Fox20_fox.louise@GMAIL.COM31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:27:38 +0200305_ISO-8859-1 A few people wanted to know how we got ourselves off dairy, so I'm (finally)
posting to the list. This is our story, it is not a recommended or
fool-proof method or something, but maybe some ideas in it will help others.
And it's nearly 7 years ago, so details are already fuzzy! [...]42_18Feb200720:27:38+0200fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 4246 139 17_Re: Big book sale14_Evelyn Krieger18_ek2000@COMCAST.NET31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:41:12 -0500481_iso-8859-1 Big book saleThanks so much for the tip. However, after spending an hour and a half shopping, I got to the checkout and the discount appears to be more like 40 percent. I tried taking out items, but couldn't figure it out. I ordered a lot of music cds. Is there any info on the exceptions?
Thanks,
Evelyn
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From: Zohari
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: [TORCH-D] Big book sale [...]40_18Feb200714:41:12-0500ek2000@COMCAST.NET 4386 85 17_Re: Big book sale6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:53:50 -0700528_US-ASCII > Thanks so much for the tip. However, after spending an hour and a half
> shopping, I got to the checkout and the discount appears to be more like 40
> percent. I tried taking out items, but couldn't figure it out. I ordered a
> lot of music cds. Is there any info on the exceptions?
> Thanks,
> Evelyn
>
> Dear Evelyn,
>
> It looked to me last night that the CDs had no significant discount if any at
> all. That may have skewed the total discount. I did buy several DVDs that
> [...]42_18Feb200713:53:50-0700najova@EARTHLINK.NET 4472 34 17_eliminating dairy15_Michelle Miller25_michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:49:55 -0700597_- My kids saw an allergist last week because I'm so tired of the sniffles,
stuffiness, and worse (use your imagination!). He suggested we go off dairy
for a week as kids who have "allergies" mostly in the winter tend to have
food allergies....different than lactose intolerance. Wow, what a
difference. They can breathe, no runny noses, no coughs....amazing. We're
supposed to go back on dairy for a week soon, just to make sure. I'm not
thinking I want to do that. Even though they have complained, they have to
admit they feel great for the first time since September. [...]47_18Feb200716:49:55-0700michelletamar@HOTMAIL.COM 4507 40 71_Re: 95 Purim Links-- The correct link...It is a secret (But see below!)16_Russell J Hendel17_rjhendel@JUNO.COM31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:48:48 -0500342_us-ascii Hi
I was so thrilled to find out my link didnt work. That means that people
actually read my postings and try them out (That is not necessarily true
on other email groups!)

Anyway I wrote to the owner of the website who was extremely friendly. It
seems the PURIM link is not on the main page but it is there. [...]39_18Feb200719:48:48-0500rjhendel@JUNO.COM 4548 83 5_Intro5_Kelli33_Natural_Irish_Terrier@COMCAST.NET31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:36:01 -0500498_iso-8859-1 Hello,

My name is Kelli and I am new to the group. I have been HSing for about 6 years now. I am interested in finding new resources and sites and interested in what type of curriculum people use. I have one daughter. We have 3 dogs and 5 birds (zebra finch).
My daughter runs one of our dogs in agility trials, she also does Tae Kwon Do and is going for her black belt this fall. My husband is in the military so we move around quite a bit. We are currently in Virginia. [...]55_18Feb200721:36:01-0500Natural_Irish_Terrier@COMCAST.NET 4632 198 21_Re: eliminating dairy5_Kelli33_Natural_Irish_Terrier@COMCAST.NET31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:42:04 -0500561_iso-8859-1 Michelle,

We have been cows milk for some time now. Wow what a difference it made with a lot of things. My daughter had reoccurring bronchitis every three months for several years before I realized it was a milk allergy. Now the whole family is off cows milk. Our MD is holistic and he suggested I remove myself as well, and I did. Wow, my allergies cleared up, I was shocked to realize that all these allergy issues we were having were from one source. My daughter has long term reaction from milk and most allergy testing will not show [...]55_18Feb200721:42:04-0500Natural_Irish_Terrier@COMCAST.NET 4831 45 16_Re: High Schools0_19_BurnesFamily@CS.COM29_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:34:09 EST562_US-ASCII We are trying to find a High School for my son. I was wondering if anybody
had any recommendations.

Leah Burnes

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these problems? If this is the case, why isn't it more
widely known?

What kind of benefits do you see when you go off dairy
/ what should we expect if we decide to do it?

I'm really curious about this...

~Shayna in Chicago
afterschooling Kinneret and Uri Amitai [...]39_19Feb200710:40:24-0800ssheiny@YAHOO.COM 5124 85 21_Re: eliminating dairy6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:57:41 -0700552_US-ASCII > For years, I attributed the good health of my kids in very large part to the
> fact we didn't eat or drink dairy. At the beginning of last year, I learned
> about raw milk, and what I had generally believed about dairy didn't apply to
> non homogenized, non pasteurized dairy. I was a big believer in milk being
> terribly unhealthy (and still have the same feelings about the processed
> stuff), but have now integrated raw milk and kefir into our diet, and it's
> been only to our benefit.
>
>
>
I would [...]42_19Feb200710:57:41-0700najova@EARTHLINK.NET 5210 141 16_Re: High Schools14_Malkie Swidler18_malkie18@GMAIL.COM31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:05:28 +0200394_ISO-8859-1 I really do not mean to be disrespectful, and I definitely do not mean to
question other people's choices, but I do not see how a homeschooling list
is a really good place to ask for school recommendations. It's kind of like
asking were to buy "Steak Lavan" in Bnei Brak, if you know what I mean--
most people here just can't help you find what you are looking for. [...]40_19Feb200722:05:28+0200malkie18@GMAIL.COM 5352 81 16_Re: High Schools0_27_billbernstein@BELLSOUTH.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:19:54 -0500599_ISO-8859-1 Malki,
Homeschooling, as I understand it, comes under the umbrella of "what is best for my child." For some kids traditional school makes sense. For other kids, school at some age, home school at another age makes sense. I have 2 school-age kids: one goes to public school and one is home schooled. I'm sure I'm not unique here and I strongly suspect others on the list have plenty of experience with traditional high schools, both good and bad.
So that is hardly an off-beat or inappropriate question.
Thanks
Bill Bernstein
Enjoying a nice icy cold glass of milk and [...]49_19Feb200715:19:54-0500billbernstein@BELLSOUTH.NET 5434 30 21_Re: eliminating dairy14_Jennifer Moran20_jrmoran@UCHICAGO.EDU31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:25:24 -0600353_us-ascii Avivah wrote:
> I was a big
> believer in milk being terribly unhealthy (and
> still have the same feelings about the processed
> stuff), but have now integrated raw milk and kefir
> into our diet, and it's been only to our benefit.

But raw dairy should not be used by pregnant women due to
serious listeria risk. [...]42_20Feb200709:25:24-0600jrmoran@UCHICAGO.EDU 5465 59 21_Re: eliminating dairy13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:23:05 -0800446_iso-8859-1 I found out about my first raw milk source from a chalav yisroel friend - she just watched the farmer do the milking. Look for local farms (I go two hours away to get my milk, so local is relative).

As far as the pas yisroel stuff - if you found decent quality stuff, you would pay through the nose for it. Make your own baked goods and you'll know exactly what's in them and make the quality as good as you want it to be. [...]44_20Feb200709:23:05-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 5525 55 48_Re: was eliminating dairy, now the establishment13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:25:44 -0800299_iso-8859-1 Well, if you believe that the establishment has all the answers for how the best way things should be done is, you would be surprised. I've never thought that the mainstream media is a way to get any kind of helpful info. If most people are doing it, it probably isn't a great idea. [...]44_20Feb200709:25:44-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 5581 71 27_Re: closing thread on dairy13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:28:45 -0800656_iso-8859-1 This isn't accurate, but because this is a homeschooling list, I think it's going off topic to continue the discussion on dairy, myths of raw milk, etc.

Avivah

Jennifer Moran wrote:
But raw dairy should not be used by pregnant women due to
serious listeria risk.

Be well,
Jennifer

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wanted to respond with our experiences. Feel free to delete if this is not
applicable/interesting to you.

For us, the symptoms are/were

My oldest son had/has asthma, and was having at least one serious attack per
month. When we stopped dairy, his attacks reduced to 2-3 times per year! [...]42_20Feb200720:25:45+0200fox.louise@GMAIL.COM 5911 73 16_Re: High Schools0_19_BurnesFamily@CS.COM29_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:52:38 EST606_US-ASCII Aviva,
We've homeschooled my son for the past 2 years. He's got mild learning
disabbilities(C.A.P.D.) and a high IQ. He was in several different schools before we
decided on Homeschooling. He and his father want him to go to a regular high
school for next year.

I don't know how to answer the religious level question. He's an FFB, born in
Flatbush, raised in Passaic. His first school was the Yeshiva Bais Hillel in
Passaic. Which is a modern Yeshivish type school. Most of his friends still go
there. He's very into basketball, and he wants to only consider the [...]39_20Feb200714:52:38ESTBurnesFamily@CS.COM 5985 78 33_[Fwd: Re: [TORCH-D] High Schools]18_Benjamin H Dickman27_bdickman@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:56:37 -0500717_us-ascii -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [TORCH-D] High Schools
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:52:05 -0500
From: Benjamin H Dickman
Organization: Lucent Technologies
To: BurnesFamily@cs.com
References:

Leah,

Maybe it was I who wrote 2 years ago. I live in Monsey.
There used to be just Sha'arei Torah (founded by Rav Berel Wein)
and Bais Shraga. A new HS opened called Ohel Torah which serves
as the continuation of Bais Miqroh. Bais Shraga concentrates
on Limudei Qodesh. You'd need to do English at home. Sha'arei
Torah has a better English program. I don't know if they have
a basketball [...]49_20Feb200715:56:37-0500bdickman@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM 6064 91 16_Re: High Schools13_Barbara Mazor19_barbmazor@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:28:28 -0800439_iso-8859-1 Leah -

FWIW, I did the homeschool to high school transition for a kid with some learning issues. It was the learning issues that brought us to homeschooling. I live in Flatbush.

I don't know much about New Jersey schools. Check out Torah Academy of Bergen County. I know Rabbi Jachter personally. I worked with him a number of years ago on a community eruv and I think he is a real mensch and a straight guy. [...]41_22Feb200721:28:28-0800barbmazor@YAHOO.COM 6156 83 20_organizing for Purim17_tolife18@juno.com17_tolife18@JUNO.COM29_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:00:05 GMT745_- For those of you who are or have been into flylady, here's the reminders we've all been wanting for the Jewish calender. You can go to the link below for an article or go to the home web page here: www.jewish-life-organized.com

Have a great Shabbat and wonderful Purim sameach!
Laya
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Whether you are cooking your own seudah or invited to someone else's use the seudah planning chart. For the full story, go to: http://www.jewish-life-organized.com/purim-month.html at [...]37_23Feb200703:00:05GMTtolife18@JUNO.COM 6240 104 24_Re: organizing for Purim9_beth mali18_malikids@GMAIL.COM31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:02:07 -0800622_ISO-8859-1 I just glanced at the sight briefly, but I saw the word "perfectly" on the
book titles...and I couldn't help thinking that housework done incorrectly
still blesses my home. I guess I'll have to just keep modifying other's
schedules to fit my Jewish one.
Beth

On 2/22/07, tolife18@juno.com wrote:
>
> For those of you who are or have been into flylady, here's the reminders
> we've all been wanting for the Jewish calender. You can go to the link
> below for an article or go to the home web page here: *
> www.jewish-life-organized.com*
>
> Have [...]40_23Feb200711:02:07-0800malikids@GMAIL.COM 6345 70 24_Re: organizing for Purim13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:20:15 -0800570_iso-8859-1 >>I just glanced at the sight briefly, but I saw the word "perfectly" on
the book titles...and I couldn't help thinking that housework done
incorrectly still blesses my home. I guess I'll have to just keep modifying other's
schedules to fit my Jewish one.
Beth<<

I agree with you, Beth. Who cares about perfection? In our house, that's something I actively work to avoid. I don't believe there is such a thing, and even if there would be, I don't believe it's possible to have a loving and sane environment while achieving perfection. [...]44_24Feb200720:20:15-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 6416 112 24_Re: organizing for Purim6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:06:21 -0700488_ISO-8859-1 > I really believe that what you do with love really does bless your home, to
> borrow your phrase, Beth. Each mom has to find her way of doing things that
> keep her home running in a relaxed and productive manner for her.
>
>
>
> That being said, I'm always interested to hear the tips of others in how they
> manage their days, chagim, etc - there's always something more to learn!
>
>
>
> Avivah - mom to 7 fantastic kids in Baltimore [...]42_24Feb200722:06:21-0700najova@EARTHLINK.NET 6529 59 24_Re: organizing for Purim10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL31_Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:56:53 +0200548_windows-1252 Zohari wrote:
>
> One thing that happened after baby #4 arrived was this incredible
> “revelation” that I cannot be all things to all people and still be a
> functioning, happy, involved person. :)
I think you are amazing that you came to this revelation after 4 kids -
I didn't "hit the wall" until the 7th was born, and by that time my
whole family was so entrenched in having me be all things to all people
that it took a really big and painful push to change the home dynamic
(am I stuck on a birth [...]39_25Feb200710:56:53+0200svkopp@012.NET.IL 6589 63 12_introduction15_lmcohn@juno.com15_lmcohn@JUNO.COM29_Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:33:17 GMT560_- Hello all -
We are embarking on homeschooling and have been told by many people that this is a great resource. So here we are! My husband Avy and I have three children - Asher, almost 5, Eliana, 3 1/2, and Shaya, 9 months. We have been researching homeschooling, contemplating, talking, and meeting other Jewish families in the area that do homeschool (there aren't many) for months and are just now getting our plans in order. I'd love to hear any advice anyone has to offer!
Our situation looks to be doubly challenging - we hope we can pull it [...]35_26Feb200711:33:17GMTlmcohn@JUNO.COM 6653 129 16_Re: introduction17_tolife18@juno.com17_tolife18@JUNO.COM29_Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:32:39 GMT540_- Hi Lynne (you're only the second Lynne I've met with an 'e' in her name!),
Welcome to Torch'd. As time goes by you'll see lots of sage advice and collective experiences and wisdom. There are amazing families on this list, lots who post regularly and others less often. There are a lot of writers on the list too! If you have specific questions, ask away and you'll find a wealth of answers and resources.
By the way, you'd think with the rush of Pesach that the list would get quiet. If my memory serves me, there are a lot of [...]37_26Feb200715:32:39GMTtolife18@JUNO.COM 6783 70 16_Hamentashen help14_Evelyn Krieger18_ek2000@COMCAST.NET31_Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:19:51 -0500516_Windows-1252 Hi,
Every year I have the same problem with my home made hamentashen--they open up in the oven! I've tried a couple standard recipes. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Evelyn
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I am so happy you decided to take the plunge!! Yes this mailing list is a
great resource so do not feel intimidated to ask "silly" questions. We are
actually in the same situation, I "work" at home and my husband does too.
Yes, it is challenging to be at home all the time, but you will find your
balance with time. What are you thinking of doing? Your kids are young so
there is a lot care taking involved right? Were your children in some kind
of daycare until now? If so there will be some adjustment [...]48_26Feb200709:13:59-0700bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM 7034 57 28_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20)14_Rebecca Harper22_hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM31_Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:58:01 -0500527_ISO-8859-1 Hi Bara,

Just because you're a musician, or even a music teacher, doesn't mean you can teach your own child! I've been trying for the last year to find time to not only teach, but sit and practice with my child, and I am a music teacher.

I think my problem is that we use most of the day past 8:45am and 5:30pm (we get ready for bed routine at 5:30, and in bed usually around 6:30ish) trying to get in both judaic and secular with my gr 1er and my prek.... and doesn't seem to be enough time. Not [...]44_26Feb200713:58:01-0500hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM 7092 72 20_Re: Hamentashen help13_Barbara Mazor19_barbmazor@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:06:16 -0800700_iso-8859-1 Try wetting the edges with a little water before you squeeze them closed and really mush them together.

Barb.

Evelyn Krieger wrote: Hi,
Every year I have the same problem with my home made hamentashen--they open up in the oven! I've tried a couple standard recipes. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Evelyn
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up. I think the key to making better yeast ones would be to not let the
filling show. Seal 'em up real good and let rise a bit before baking. The
ones that came out the best were the Chocolate cookie dough Hamentashen from
the aish.com website (see below) Yummy!
Beth [...]40_27Feb200700:06:25-0800malikids@GMAIL.COM 7277 32 20_Re: Hamentashen help10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:30:16 +0200397_windows-1252 Evelyn Krieger wrote:
> Hi,
> Every year I have the same problem with my home made hamentashen--they
> open up in the oven! I've tried a couple standard recipes. Any
> suggestions?
Use a recipe for roll cookie dough. Those recipes are made to hold their
shape after the cookies have been formed with a cookie cutter and they
don't spread or puff up so much. [...]39_27Feb200710:30:16+0200svkopp@012.NET.IL 7310 59 28_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20)13_Avivah Werner22_avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:09:04 -0800449_iso-8859-1 Welcome Lynn!

>>I think my problem is that we use most of the day past 8:45am and 5:30pm (we get ready for bed routine at 5:30, and in bed usually around 6:30ish) trying to get in both judaic and secular with my gr 1er and my prek.... and doesn't seem to be enough time. Not sure if I'm not being efficient, or that my gr 1er gets distracted easily and so many times it takes longer for him to learn and finish the work....<< [...]44_27Feb200709:09:04-0800avivahwerner@YAHOO.COM 7370 98 40_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20) (0.28/3.20)14_Rebecca Harper22_hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:39:19 -0500542_ISO-8859-1 I don't think I ask for much. I've even made a schedule, and I SHOULD be done in a reasonable amount of time, but I can't quite make it.

We have davening and parsha/or Yom Tov in the morning. We usually end up taking 45-60 minutes (my oldest and I like to talk usually....) Then there is math, usually 30-45 mins... We usually take a 15 min break, then do our reading. Sometimes we get to his writing then, if not either after lunch, or the next day. (they are learning an easy script instead of printing in his school [...]44_27Feb200712:39:19-0500hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM 7469 81 40_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20) (0.28/3.20)14_Rebecca Harper22_hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:03:38 -0500282_ISO-8859-1 Things move at a good pace when we are actually doing the work. So, I guess it is just getting started.... Just thinking, perhaps I can move his schoolwork out of the room. So, when we sit at the table, I see him (and he sees me) when I ask him to get his work..... [...]44_27Feb200713:03:38-0500hudabecca@RAINMALL.COM 7551 73 40_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20) (0.28/3.20)6_Shayna17_ssheiny@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:03:38 -0800551_iso-8859-1 This seems like a good place to start - is there ANY
way you can rearrange so the books are already there?
Perhaps have him get them ready and out the night
before?

We have quite a few problems with Uri, almost 5,
getting ready in the morning, so we've set it up in a
way that's agreeable - if not ideal - for everyone.
We dress him in his clothes for the following day for
bed, we have him pick out whatever toy he wants (to
take with, for running errands or whatever) the night
before, too, and put [...]39_27Feb200711:03:38-0800ssheiny@YAHOO.COM 7625 126 40_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20) (0.28/3.20)15_Bara Loewenthal26_bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:44:24 -0700508_iso-8859-1 I have baskets for each child, with all the books and workbooks in them,
even though we do not do everything that is in the basket every day, if they
need it it is all in one place, plus the clean up is easy I just take the
baskets and put them in our big "homeschooling closet". It used ot take us
longer to do things, but it seems that with time the kids just do their work
faster if they know what is ahead. They know that they have to do a 1 page
or 1 math excercise or [...]48_27Feb200712:44:24-0700bara@BTGENTERPRISESINC.COM 7752 58 40_Re: introduction (0.99/3.20) (0.28/3.20)10_Sarah Kopp17_svkopp@012.NET.IL31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:36:37 +0200517_ISO-8859-1 Rebecca Harper wrote:
> I don't think I ask for much. I've even made a schedule, and I SHOULD be done in a reasonable amount of time, but I can't quite make it.
>
>
Thank you for bringing this up! I also feel like it takes all day to get
nothing done. I would love to hear practical how-to tips from the
veterans. I am currently homeschooling a dd9 and ds4 (soon to be 5) and
a dd2 helps out. We have 8 kids in all but 2 are still in school and 3
are teenagers doing their own [...]39_27Feb200720:36:37+0200svkopp@012.NET.IL 7811 25 16_All in one place6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:52:12 -0700598_US-ASCII I do what Bara does. Each kid has their own tote with their things in it,
including pencils, etc. That makes it very easy for them to find their
stuff and put it away (!) when they are finished. It is their jobs to keep
it in order and within reach.

Shoshana Z.

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Have you tried putting the already-formed hamantaschen in the freezer for
five minutes before you bake them? That has worked very well for me; they
rarely open in the oven when I chill them first. Also, try baking at 350,
instead of 375, and using parchment or silpat on the baking sheet. [...]39_28Feb200709:52:21-0500mayaniboy@MSN.COM 7897 66 16_Re: Hamantaschen14_Hadas laureano20_hadasl@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:42:09 -0800575_iso-8859-1 Id love to hear new oznei haman recipes...i am tired
of doing the same ones every year...thanks...Hadas
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> Hi. I have been lurking for a few years, but I
> don't really know how to
> post, so I hope this works.
>
> Have you tried putting the already-formed
> hamantaschen in the freezer for
> five minutes before you bake them? That has worked
> very well for me; they
> rarely open in the oven when I chill them first.
> Also, try baking at 350,
> instead of 375, and using [...]42_28Feb200708:42:09-0800hadasl@SBCGLOBAL.NET 7964 70 27_On-line bookstore discovery6_Zohari20_najova@EARTHLINK.NET31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:03:18 -0700630_US-ASCII Please look at this site for a huge selection of Hebrew books, DVDs, CDs,
etc.

http://www.orlysbookstore.com/

For those who use DVDs, my kids and I are really enjoying a series called
Bagan Shel Dudu. Great Hebrew practice and fun, kosher, quality stories and
images.

Shoshana Z.

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