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1 62 18_a Holtian approach10_Abe Socher28_socher@socrates.berkeley.edu30_Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:03:40 -0800387_us-ascii Hi--I am happy to report that a Holtian approach CAN work! Yesterday my 8
year old asked if we could look to see "what Rashi or one of those other
guys" has to sayabout HaShem walking with Noach. Like, "How could Gd walk?"
The reason I wrote to tell you guys this is that I keep remembering Ephriam
writing about waiting for his son to ask the questions... [...]39_v04011706b4e2ef349a00@[136.152.101.247]
64 780 22_Re: a Holtian approach47_Israel (Ira) Friedman and Tzviya (Fawn) Brickel21_ifriedma@actcom.co.il31_Wed, 08 Mar 2000 06:55:35 +0200571_us-ascii At 08:03 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi--I am happy to report that a Holtian approach CAN work! Yesterday my 8
>year old asked if we could look to see "what Rashi or one of those other
>guys" has to sayabout HaShem walking with Noach. Like, "How could Gd walk?"
Neat! :-)
Your post also brought up an issue that I see becoming challanging in the
coming years: my eldest son is turning 11 soon. Bar mitzva will soon occur
to my husband and my son shows little interest in Torah learning or, for
that matter, doing any of the [...]43_08Mar200006:55:35+0200ifriedma@actcom.co.il
845 55 22_Re: a Holtian approach15_Shoshana Sloman19_ssloman@hotmail.com29_Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:03:58 PST530_- When I was homeschooling, even within the structure, I at times required of
my child that he complete a certain portion of his work (a chapter, a page,
a problem) before quitting. I wanted him to learn to persevere, even when
the work became difficult or boring. Of course, I did strive to maintain a
balance. I made an estimation of what he could reasonably deal with, and
required that of him. If I found he had great difficulty, I scaled back; if
I found it was too easy, I increased his requirements. [...]39_16Mar200012:03:58PSTssloman@hotmail.com
901 25 24_Re: Question on tefillin15_Shoshana Sloman19_ssloman@hotmail.com29_Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:06:08 PST409_- > Being 4/7ths of the way there, I can only surmise this is because
>you're doing your kaporet in THIS world.
> --Mike Turnainsky, only half-joking....
Yes - when I gave birth to my fourth boy (bli ayin hara), a friend's husband
said, "She's trying to get into Shemayim the easy way." My friend replied,
"The easy way?! The easy way would be supporting a couple of yeshivas!"
:-) [...]39_16Mar200012:06:08PSTssloman@hotmail.com
927 400 24_re: bar mitzvah question15_Shoshana Sloman19_ssloman@hotmail.com29_Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:25:45 PST587_- Tviya, I've been thinking about your concern about your methods being
perceived as a failure. I've tried to think of a way you could look at it
somewhat objectively. Judging how successful you've been means considering
your goals and to what extent you have achieved them. If you had sent your
son to school all these years, and he turned out exactly as he has -
interested in doing mitvahs, but not particularly scholarly in Torah or
secular subjects - would you feel that the school had been a failure? Would
you be lamenting that the school had killed his [...]39_16Mar200012:25:45PSTssloman@hotmail.com
1328 24 24_Re: Question on tefillin15_Shoshana Sloman19_ssloman@hotmail.com29_Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:04:57 PST328_- >From: Russell J Hendel
>As far as I can tell there is no difference whether it is boys or girls
Isn't it true that a father is obligated to provide a home and food for his
daughters until they marry? If so, that would explain why it is considered
charity in the case of the boys. [...]39_20Mar200006:04:57PSTssloman@hotmail.com
1353 399 19_Re: Hebrew question47_Israel (Ira) Friedman and Tzviya (Fawn) Brickel21_ifriedma@actcom.co.il31_Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:04:23 +0200961_us-ascii Hi Barbara,
I, and most people I've spoken to, use "Chinuch Bayti" (Bait in adjectival
form).
Purim Sameach!
Tzviya
Tzviya Brickel
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1753 61 24_Re: Homeschool in Hebrew47_Israel (Ira) Friedman and Tzviya (Fawn) Brickel21_ifriedma@actcom.co.il31_Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:09:44 +0200582_us-ascii At 02:07 PM 3/23/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Seriously, I have a question on the connotation of the
>word "Hinuch". When I was in Israel and I talked about
>returning to America to go to college and continue my
>"Hinuch" (education), I was politely informed that I was
>already very nicely "mehunechet" and that what I intended
>was to continue my "limudim" (studies). I was told that
>the connotation of "hinuch" is to civilize, to learn proper
>behavior - as in the role of the Rav Mehanech. So is this
>a correct understanding of the word? [...]43_24Mar200000:09:44+0200ifriedma@actcom.co.il
1815 422 24_Re: Homeschool in Hebrew47_Israel (Ira) Friedman and Tzviya (Fawn) Brickel21_ifriedma@actcom.co.il31_Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:20:33 +0200551_us-ascii Another thought,
Although I would use the term chinuch bayti in a discussion of educational
theories, I don't think I would use it in answer to the question "Lama hu
lo b'bayt-sefer?" My answer to that has been, "Hu lomeid babayit," or "Ani
m'lamedet otoh." Neither of those really answer the question or describe
how he does learn, but if people are really interested they'll ask for more
information. Otherwise, they're satisfied that *someone* is teaching him
and he's not being denied his right to an education. [...]43_24Mar200000:20:33+0200ifriedma@actcom.co.il