1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/scj-parenting September 1996 2 31 18_Memorial for child10_Marc Davis15_mdavis@infi.net29_Sat, 31 Aug 1996 13:13:55 GMT319_US-ASCII Do you have a small amount of money, it does not have to be a big amount to open a small scholarship for a hebrew school. Or dedicate a book to the jewish day school? This is what I do for my father every year.

We are also looking for things besides planting a tree, which we do almost every year. [...] 34 27 54_REGIONAL ANNOUNCEMENT - Torah Study for 8-10 Year olds13_Richard Rukin24_rukin@merle.acns.nwu.edu29_Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:25:54 GMT306_- If you are in the north suburbs of Chicago, a Torah study group for children 8-10 years old is being formed in Lincolnwood. If you want information, call (847)677-1282.

Note: I am posting this for a friend who is not on the net, so don't send me e-mail (I don't know much about it). Make the call. 62 27 41_Re: Sunday School - Teaching Kindergarten0_30_Meredith_Warshaw@frankston.com28_Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:43:00 GMT518_- When I observed a day at the new Jewish Day School my son is entering next week, I saw the Judaica teacher covering the week's parsha - the one where God tells Abraham to leave his family and go to a strange land. The teacher had the kids make simple paper puppets and put on a puppet show of the parsha. Then he asked them questions like "Why do you think God told Abraham to go away?", "How do you think Abraham felt?", "How do you think Sarah felt when Abraham came home and said 'Hi honey, guess what we're [...] 90 1526 67_soc.culture.jewish.parenting FAQ: Newsgroup Policies and Procedures13_Daniel Faigin21_faigin@pacificnet.net26_29 Aug 1996 11:08:11 -0700785_- Archive-name: judaism/FAQ/scjp-admin Soc-culture-jewish-archive-name: faq.scjp-admin Posting-Frequency: Monthly

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Georganne Burke

* This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. * Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent * authorities in those fields. 1639 59 43_Re: childrens' activities for Rosh Hashanah14_Paul Hossfield27_PHossfield@news-e2c.gnn.com29_Sat, 31 Aug 1996 02:20:04 GMT501_us-ascii

In article <1996Aug27.141647@vms.huji.ac.il> moshes wrote: >Anita Lee writes: >> Somehow I have ended up in charge of organizing childrens' >> activities for the high holidays. Our temple offers a >> childrens' service and activities during the time the >> parents are in service.This means I have to keep around 200 >> 5 to 12 year olds busy for around 3 hours. I also have >> practically no budget to do this with. I would welcome any >> suggestions or ideas. [...] 1699 23 23_andrea and kindergarten0_16_JRomjrom@aol.com29_Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:56:41 GMT493_-

wow! what patience. i suggest making things as multisensory as possible--probably not too hard since judaism is about as multisensory as you can get--teaching the seder is the model teaching environment--food, song, seminar. anyway, since each kid learns differently--some visual, some auditory, some kinesthetic, this gives you the most coverage. also, allow for wiggle breaks along the way. interesting how this topic converges with the sit still at shul thread! joanna in dc [...] 1723 45 33_Help - Need Mitzvah Project Ideas14_Andrea Herrera15_andreah@utj.org29_Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:58:13 GMT430_-

Last week I needed ideas for teaching a Kindergarten Sunday School class. Everyone was wonderful. Thanks to all that responded to the list and privately.

I just found out at orientation yesterday that we need to come up with two Mitzvah (T'zedakah) projects. One for each semester. We have all done the bring cans of food for the food bank (which we will do all year long anyway), but I need some new ideas. [...] 1769 30 63_Helping Christians Understand the Diversity of Judaic Practices0_16_JRomjrom@aol.com29_Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:31:33 GMT372_-

In a message dated 96-08-28 00:15:29 EDT, you write:

>(*Moderator's Note: I want to remind posters to keep posts relevant >to raising children in a Jewish context. We want to avoid getting >into discussing the merits of Christianity here on our list. Any >further discussion of this type may be refered to another more >appropriate list. Thank you.) [...] 1800 24 21_Kindergarten Projects10_Marc Davis15_mdavis@infi.net29_Sat, 31 Aug 1996 13:09:55 GMT455_US-ASCII I LOVE IT. I am running out to buy tubes of toothpaste now, just for my own kids. I would think if you cover it with contact paper and give them markers and let them go to town it would be wonderful.

I thknk it is a grea idea.

Sharon Davis

* This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. * Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent * authorities in those fields. 1825 27 28_Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 29816_Richard Schachet20_lvrabbi@accessnv.com28_Sun, 1 Sep 1996 00:05:23 GMT458_-

Mary Doty asks of a meaningful way of observing her son's z'l' yahrtseit.

Might a suggest planting a tree in Israel or beginning a garden in Israel thru J.N.F. A garden is 100 trees and if friends or family want to also observe the yahrtseit or even any event they can plant a tree. It seems to be a meaningful way of observing a life and will give beautty to all those who see. It is also a place you can see if you ever go to Israel. [...] 1853 42 15_Re: Baby kippot5_Cindy23_gourmet@mail.utexas.edu28_Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:45:07 GMT554_ISO-8859-1 In article <9608270934.ZM8462@noether.ibd.nrc.ca>, eviatar@noether.ibd.nrc.ca says... >> On two related threads. I went shopping a few weeks ago for a kippah for >> my friend's son's bris. I managed to find a leather one that was just the >> right size with strings attached to tie it on. I had never seen a leather >> one that little and it was quite propitious since that was the style my >> friend had asked me to look for (as opposed to the crotcheted kind I got >> my son) > >How necessary is it for the baby to wear a kippah during [...] 1896 23 6_Sukkot18_Shira Rachel Maled15_gjmmmc@qnis.net28_Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:30:20 GMT286_us-ascii I know I am jumping ahead a bit but could anyone add some good ideas for Sukkos? I am in charge of decorating the bima and the Succah booth at shul. Brotherhood will construct the booth, itself, but the children and I will be responsible for the rest. Thanks. Shira Maled [...] 1920 35 46_Re: Nursing in Synagogue, was Re: Crying Rooms18_Bissell Tina Irene18_tbissell@umich.edu28_Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:50:46 GMT326_US-ASCII



On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Robyn Kozierok wrote: > > Bissell Tina Irene wrote: > >I've noticed some women use the space [crying room] for nursing too. > > Is there a religious problem with nursing in synagogue, if the mom is > reasonably discreet and the baby is reasonably quite. [...] 1956 30 0_0_18_SteffiKarp@aol.com36_Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:35:47 -0400 (EDT)551_- Re: Tzedakah for 5&6 year olds-- You are right. Elderly love visitors, especially sweet 5&6 year olds. They may wish to bring sukkah decorations for the hosts or apples and honey to serve for a new year, along with some simple songs. Also, 5&6 year olds are great at making sandwiches for a shelter. Wash a table. Lay out the bread, lay on three layers of bologna or salami (shelters usally make their food needs clear) and then a top layer of bread. At Rosies place in boston, 5 loaves of bread made sandwiches. As per instructions we did not [...] 1987 32 42_CTTS: song lyrics interpreted by 4 yr-olds15_Marjorie Peskin24_mpeskin@lynx.dac.neu.edu37_Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:53:22 -0400 (EDT)272_- Yesterday, my two kids were listening to Raffi music on the car stereo. On one of the tapes, Raffi sings a song with the lyric "Who's got a beard that's long and white, who comes around on a special night? Must be Santa, must be Santa, must be Santa, Santa Claus." [...] 2020 137 34_Re: Sitting through services & ADD17_Barbara L Pollack18_blpatcai@erols.com37_Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:18:15 -0400 (EDT)563_- d.lear@cchs.usyd.edu.au (Dana Lear) wrote:

>I stopped going to services when my son turned 18 months or so, but Max, >now 8, has been going to Sunday school since February. I'd like to take him >to Kol Nidre and the family services for Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur. So >far we haven't had much luck in Friday night family services, which mostly >end with hissed threats from me and pouting and sulking from Max. The >temple is only offering High Holiday child care for 2-5 year olds, but I >want him to be in the services, anyway. Any advice for the [...] 2158 42 46_Re: Nursing in Synagogue, was Re: Crying Rooms15_Fred Rosenblatt34_Frederic.H.Rosenblatt@jpl.nasa.gov37_Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:19:33 -0400 (EDT)678_- In article <5052mb$brj@life.ai.mit.edu>, robyn@ai.mit.edu (Robyn Kozierok) wrote:

> In article > , > Bissell Tina Irene wrote: > >I've notices some women use the space [crying room] for nursing too. > > Is there a religious problem with nursing in synagogue, if the mom is > reasonably discreet and the baby is reasonably quite. I'd be particularly > interested in the Conservative perspective, which is where we attend > services. > (It seems like it might be a more difficult question there than in Orthodox, > where the women sit separately.) > > --Robyn > I don't think it [...] 2201 33 18_Bees in the Sukkah10_C. Newport16_crn@netix.org.uk37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:26:09 -0400 (EDT)493_- >I'm afraid I don't have any good news for you. I think somehow, bees are >attracted to sukkahs. I have sat in USA East Coast sukkahs, USA West >Coast sukkahs, Jerusalem sukkahs, "shfeyla" (coastal plain of Israel) >sukkahs, city/town/country sukkahs and they ALL have bees. I have seen >those bees chase after (and even pick up!!) pieces of chicken, (a sobering >sight). It doesn't seem to matter if the sukkah is cloth or wood, if the >decorations are paper or plastic or real fruit. [...] 2235 30 19_getting rid of bees0_24_RFRIEDMA@forest.drew.edu37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:28:37 -0400 (EDT)545_- Path: forest!rfriedma From: rfriedma@forest.drew.edu Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish.parenting Subject: getting rid of bees Message-ID: <1996Sep9.115109.145162@forest> Date: 9 Sep 96 11:51:09 EST Organization: Drew University News-Moderator: Approval required for posting to soc.culture.jewish.parenting Lines: 4

with respect to controlling bees: in the past, we have vacuumed them up with our good old vacuum cleaner brought outdoors on an extension cord. Before resorting to the vacuum, we try leaving a chunk of meat on the side [...] 2266 53 37_Re: Help - Need Mitzvah Project Ideas0_30_Meredith_Warshaw@frankston.com37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:38:03 -0400 (EDT)293_- Or perhaps your class and the next class up could practice Jewish songs/skits and put on a show for an old age home. Our local, very small day school (last year it only had 12 kids, age 5-11) did that and the residents loved it - and it was the kids' idea to take the show on the road! [...] 2320 30 40_Hillel's teachings vs. the "Golden Rule"15_Irene Bleiweiss16_IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:38:50 -0400 (EDT)551_- Can someone help me track down a statement of Hillel about being nice to others. I need it to help my 7 year old daughter learn the concept in a Jewish way, because it is being taught in a Christian way in her school. My daughter's American public school stresses to the children that they must follow the "golden rule" (which is phrased as "do unto others as you would have them do unto you.") In fact school literature states that the school colors (gold and blue) stand in part for this "golden rule" teaching. Although the school's goal of [...] 2351 56 29_Re: Bee Control in the Sukkah19_susan (d.s.) marcus17_smarcus@nortel.ca37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:39:19 -0400 (EDT)461_- Nina

I haven't tried it yet but this summer I bought a Wasp Trap. I have a feeling it will work on both Wasps and bees but I won't be able to verify that until after Sukkot.

It was inexpensive and was under $10. I bought it at a Garden Centre. I just happened to see it at the check out counter. It has a hanger and you fill it with a mixture of water, sugar and liquid soap (I think, I'll have to read the instructions). It's worth a try. [...] 2408 28 33_Alef bet cookie cutters - FOUND!!13_Louise Miller22_miller@louise.ucsd.edu37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:40:12 -0400 (EDT)415_- I found the alef bet cookie cutters thanks to Devora in Cleveland, Chana in Israel, and Lila in New Jersey. They can be purchased at Kol LeGan in Jerusalem and Center of Town in Lakewood NJ. Center of Town also has chocolate molds to make chocolate letters and cake decorations. At Kol LeGan they are sold with Play Dough, and are called stencils. (They were amused at the idea of making cookies with them.) [...] 2437 36 29_Re: Bee Control in the Sukkah18_Isabel D Silverman27_isilverm@umabnet.ab.umd.edu37_Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:40:43 -0400 (EDT)309_- > > Bees are always out in force in the Northeast in September and October. I've > stopped hanging real fruit inside the sukkah to keep them away. Still, > whenever there is food served, or juice poured, the bees find us. What > methods of bee control have you all been successful with? Do bug zappers [...] 2474 25 30_No honey for your little honey13_Louise Miller22_miller@louise.ucsd.edu37_Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:15:02 -0400 (EDT)307_- I read in What To Expect, that you should never give honey to a child who is under 2 years old. There is some sort of bacteria that can make babies quite sick. I have no idea if you can cook it and resolve the problem, but it's probably a good idea to be on the safe side and not give your kids any. [...] 2500 39 37_Re: Help - Need Mitzvah Project Ideas34_Janet Solursh jbray@uga.cc.uga.edu20_JBRAY@uga.cc.uga.edu37_Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:15:04 -0400 (EDT)595_- In article <199608261801.NAA27740@oak.zilker.net> "Andrea Herrera" writes:

>I just found out at orientation yesterday that we need to come up >with two Mitzvah (T'zedakah) projects. One for each semester. We have >all done the bring cans of food for the food bank (which we will do >all year long anyway), but I need some new ideas. > When I was a Girl Scout, my troop made hobby horses for an orphanage from broomsticks and heavy socks. Maybe this is too complicated for 5 year olds, but making toys for other, younger children seems like a good thing to do. Or [...] 2540 28 15_Re: Baby kippot35_Sophie Miron and Jawxillion D. Loeb16_sophjxl@dnai.com37_Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:15:10 -0400 (EDT)412_- >How necessary is it for the baby to wear a kippah during his brit? Rafi >didn't, and neither the rabbi nor the mohel mentioned it as a necessity.

Well, first of all, it is not necessary for the parents to buy one as any mohel who thought it would be needed would come prepared. I wanted one of our own because the standard one's are ugly and because I wanted one for use in other Jewish contexts. [...] 2569 61 18_Honey, baby kippot14_Hadass Eviatar26_eviatar@noether.ibd.nrc.ca37_Fri, 13 Sep 1996 17:14:04 -0400 (EDT)328_- Louise wrote:

I read in What To Expect, that you should never give honey to a child who is under 2 years old. There is some sort of bacteria that can make babies quite sick. I have no idea if you can cook it and resolve the problem, but it's probably a good idea to be on the safe side and not give your kids any. [...] 2631 24 4_CTTS0_30_Meredith_Warshaw@frankston.com37_Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:59:23 -0400 (EDT)424_- Today Keith's class went apple picking at a local farm that also has animals. When he was describing the menagerie, he commented that the goats had shofars on their heads :-)

Meredith mother to Keith (4/91)





* This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. * Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent * authorities in those fields. 2656 123 40_Hillel's teachings vs. the "Golden Rule"13_bernard feder22_bernard_feder@magic.ca37_Mon, 16 Sep 1996 12:42:21 -0400 (EDT)513_- > > Can someone help me track down a statement of Hillel about being nice > to others. I need it to help my 7 year old daughter learn the concept in a > Jewish way, because it is being taught in a Christian way in her school. > My daughter's American public school stresses to the children that they > must follow the "golden rule" (which is phrased as "do unto others as > you would have them do unto you.") In fact school literature states that > the school colors (gold and blue) stand in part for this [...] 2780 27 22_Meaningful Yom Kippur?15_Irene Bleiweiss16_IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov37_Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:43:40 -0400 (EDT)549_- What are other parents doing to make Yom Kippur meanginful to their kids? I have a special problem because my 7 year old tends to be uninterested in Judaism unless it is taught in a way that involves food or art. For example, this Rosh Hashana she preferred to stay in the day care area than to join me for services, but at home loved preparing apples and honey and arranging chocolate letters on cupcakes artistically to spell out 5757 and Shana Tova. I do not know how to make Yom Kippur something meaningful for her. Thank goodness she is [...] 2808 37 44_Re: Hillel's teachings vs. the "Golden Rule"0_23_sgs@mini.skynet.att.com37_Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:54:59 -0400 (EDT)305_- In article , Irene Bleiweiss wrote: >Can someone help me track down a statement of Hillel about being nice >to others. I need it to help my 7 year old daughter learn the concept in a >Jewish way, because it is being taught in a Christian way in her school. [...] 2846 54 26_Re: Meaningful Yom Kippur?16_Enid Yvonne Karr19_ekarr@ix.netcom.com37_Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:55:47 -0400 (EDT)383_- In Irene Bleiweiss writes: > >What are other parents doing to make Yom Kippur meanginful to their >kids? I have a special problem because my 7 year old tends to be >uninterested in Judaism unless it is taught in a way that involves food or >art.

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Does anyone have ideas >for interesting kids in Yom Kippur? [...] 2901 39 16_kids in services11_Jerry Salem24_salem@mail.med.upenn.edu37_Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:25:52 -0400 (EDT)293_- Hello all and L'shana Tovah

I have been watching the discussion over the past few weeks about brining kids to services and thought I would chime in with my comments.

I have two kids who are now 4 and 2. Here is what we did to 'keep them under control' during Rosh Hashana [...] 2941 29 35_Re: Meaningful Yom Kippur for kids?18_Bissell Tina Irene18_tbissell@umich.edu37_Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:27:05 -0400 (EDT)486_- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Bissell Tina Irene Subject: Re: Meaningful Yom Kippur for kids?

Perhaps a special trip to the grocery store before Yom Kippur to pick up canned and dried goods for the local foodbank, shelter, or your synagogue's food drive/Mazon activity.

Tina Bissell 313-936-0296 Associate Curator 313-647-4121 (fax) Slide and Photograph Collection tbissell@umich.edu University of Michigan [...] 2971 24 33_Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur0_24_nrandall@shrsys.hslc.org37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 01:23:57 -0400 (EDT)460_- L'shanah tovah to all!

I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to fast or refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain.

Thank you,

Linda Zell Randall mama to Todd Frederick Randall (Noach Moshe), 06/22/96

* This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. * Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent * authorities in those fields. 2996 34 37_Re: Help - Need Mitzvah Project Ideas21_Raul and Ellen Nieves17_sevein19@star.net37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 01:23:59 -0400 (EDT)386_- Idea one.

One project celebrating the Shabbat as mitzvah.

Invite a classmate and parent to classmate home for Shabbat dinner. Have the children plan it themselves.

Or:

Organize a Shabbot diner at the school for the children and parents, Kosher pot luck diner. Have a child teach a parent. The children and parents organize a time, what to bring, etc. [...] 3031 79 26_Re: Meaningful Yom Kippur?19_Shoshana L. Boublil30_toramada@mail.netvision.net.il37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:54:39 -0400 (EDT)604_- On Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:20:54 -0700, you wrote: >In Irene Bleiweiss writes: >> >>What are other parents doing to make Yom Kippur meanginful to their >>kids? I have a special problem because my 7 year old tends to be >>uninterested in Judaism unless it is taught in a way that involves >food or >>art. I have seen an interesting article which compares/contrasts Purim with Kippurim (notice the similarity in names). Both are holidays where we are striving to become closer to Hashem - in different ways. One is based on food and drink , the other prohibits [...] 3111 48 26_Re: Meaningful Yom Kippur?3_DKU19_DKU@perrystreet.com37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:34 -0400 (EDT)613_- >ekarr@ix.netcom.com (Enid Yvonne Karr) wrote: > >>We actually (horrors) haven't GONE to Yom Kippur services at all since >>the kids were born (which bothers me a bit), since I haven't figured >>out how to deal with them there. They are great at Shabbes services, >>even the long Bnei Mitzvah ones, but Yom Kippur is Much more strenuous >>than that, and besides, no goodies afterwards...;) > the current synagogue to which we are members.. as well as our former one... has a children's service in the afternoon of yom kippur. Special colorful prayers books (complete with wonderful drawings) are used, the [...] 3160 32 0_10_Marc Davis15_mdavis@infi.net37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:51:48 -0400 (EDT)423_- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marc Davis Subject: Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 246

We also went to a petting zoo the week before Rosh Hashana. In our kids day school the first graders read a book called Yesh Lanu Lama. The first thing my fourth grader said to his friend was "Hey Philip, Yesh Lanu Lama!!!: It was very funny. [...] 3193 30 8_Micha-el19_Keith Jeremy Posner17_posner@sodalia.it37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:52:17 -0400 (EDT)105_- Can anyone tell me the exact meaning of the name Micha-el?

Shanah tovah to everyone

Keith 3224 47 53_Re: Sticking together (was: Mothers of twins meeting)21_Rachelle J. Bienstock29_rachelle@picard.niehs.nih.gov37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:52:24 -0400 (EDT)592_- **Moderator's Note: I am allowing this post as it is a follow up. Any other posts without regard to raising children in a Jewish context, or those regarding different levels of Jewish observance will be requested to post on more appropriate lists. Thank you.

Shari wrote: > > At 01:51 PM 8/22/96 GMT, "Rachelle J. Bienstock" > wrote: > > > I think the > >important thing is that (1) All Jews stick together- this is a problem > >sometimes. When I lived in Texas (although I didn't have children), a > >friend of mine was having difficulty [...] 3272 26 31_Eigth Grade Sunday School Ideas17_Robin Elise Weiss18_robinw@ha1.ntr.net37_Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:52:32 -0400 (EDT)270_- My husband and I are co-teaching 8th grade Sunday School this year. Our topics are Jewish AMerican History and Ethics. We are looking for creative ideas to keep these kids entertained and enthusiastic. Pretty hard with 8 13 year olds. :)

Robin and Kevin

3299 30 44_Re: Hillel's teachings vs. the "Golden Rule"13_Louise Miller22_miller@louise.ucsd.edu37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:21:33 -0400 (EDT)380_- Irene and Sarah -

I believe that what Hillel said translates loosely as "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow." Comes from Pirke Avot I think.

And the song I know goes, "V'ahavta lreiacha komocha, zeh klal gadol ba'Torah" ("Love your friend as yourself. This is an important principle in the Torah." It's on one of the Uncle Moishy videos.) [...] 3330 47 26_Re: Meaningful Yom Kippur?10_C. Newport16_crn@netix.org.uk37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:28:17 -0400 (EDT)537_- Irene Bleiweiss (IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov) wrote: : What are other parents doing to make Yom Kippur meanginful to their : kids? I have a special problem because my 7 year old tends to be : uninterested in Judaism unless it is taught in a way that involves food or : art. For example, this Rosh Hashana she preferred to stay in the day : care area than to join me for services, but at home loved preparing : apples and honey and arranging chocolate letters on cupcakes : artistically to spell out 5757 and Shana Tova. I do not know how to [...] 3378 55 19_Yom Kippur blessing5_Shari15_sfr2@hooked.net37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:29:02 -0400 (EDT)524_- I wanted to share with you this blessing which our Rabbi passed out at services yesterday. I am looking for a volunteer to transliterate the Hebrew. Meanwhile, here's the English. The Rabbi received this from a friend whose father, Erwin H. Lipstadt, z"l, had printed and distributed it to friends and aquaintances. It is recited once a year on erev Yom Kippur. There is a custom to bless children before going to synagogue because at that moment the holiness of the day has begun and the gates of mercy have opened. [...] 3434 40 19_Curricula requested13_Louise Miller22_miller@louise.ucsd.edu37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:29:52 -0400 (EDT)346_- On behalf of the curriculum committee of the proposed San Diego (California) Jewish high school, I am requesting sample curricula and class schedules from anyone who can provide them. We are particularily interested in Maimonides in Boston, Flatbush and Ramaz in New York, YULA and Valley Torah in LA, and similar schools in large cities. [...] 3475 33 44_Re: Hillel's teachings vs. the "Golden Rule"16_Michael A. Leeds28_mleeds@astro.ocis.temple.edu37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:08:18 -0400 (EDT)544_- I am sure someone else will have this more accurately than I, but here's my version. A non-Jew approached Rav Shammai and asked the Rabbi if he could teach all there was to Judaism while standing on one foot. Naturally, the hot-headed Shammai sent him away (did I mention that this story must have originated with a disciple of Hillel?). The non-Jew then went to Hillel, who told him, "Do not do unto others that which is hateful to you. The rest is detail. Go and study." I am interested in hearing other versions of the story. -- Mike Leeds 3509 55 19_Meaningful holidays10_Marc Davis15_mdavis@infi.net37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:10:55 -0400 (EDT)379_- Regarding the post about holidays and making them meaningful for the 7 year old.

First of all, probably the best place for him is a junior congregation at this time. My boys go to hebrew day school and can sit through about 2 hours even knowing the service. I personally think that it is hard for a 7 year old to understand and sit through more than an hour or so. [...] 3565 40 28_Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 2470_14_Gidong@aol.com37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:11:44 -0400 (EDT)548_- In a message dated 96-09-17 00:20:43 EDT, you write:

<< I am concerned that this whole > "golden rule" concept stems from the gospels of Matthew and Luke in the > Christian Bible. I want to present the concept to my child in a more > Jewish manner and remember that Hillel said something like this but > expressed it differently. Can someone tell me what Hillel said and where > it is written? > The Golden Rule or the ethic of reciprocity is found in the scriptures of nearly every religion. It is often regarded as the most concise [...] 3606 67 33_Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur0_14_HCG@delphi.com37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:08:35 -0400 (EDT)519_- MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: HCG@delphi.com Subject: Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur

To Linda Zell Randall --

>I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to fast or >refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain.

My first reaction is that my wife, who is nursing our 8-month old, didn't fast on Tisha B'av and won't on Yom Kippur. This seemed like a healthy and safe approach to me. [...] 3674 24 28_naming after deceased family16_Shari Blackstien31_erinsfb@credit.erin.utoronto.ca37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:13:13 -0400 (EDT)278_- Hi

I was hoping I could get a couple of questions answered. To name a baby after a deceased relative, do we need to know that person's Hebrew name or is the Yiddish name acceptable. Also, does the English name need to start with the same sound as the Hebrew name? [...] 3699 34 37_Re: Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur14_Gordon Drukier34_drukier@pegasus2.astro.indiana.edu37_Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:22:10 -0400 (EDT)345_- In article <16SEP96.20304234@shrsys.hslc.org>, wrote: >L'shanah tovah to all! > >I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to fast or >refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain. > >Thank you, > >Linda Zell Randall >mama to Todd Frederick Randall (Noach Moshe), 06/22/96 [...] 3734 36 12_Re: Micha-el13_Michael Kirby13_mkirby@vt.edu37_Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:53:41 -0400 (EDT)523_- In article <322AF569.595F@sodalia.it>, Keith Jeremy Posner wrote:

> Can anyone tell me the exact meaning of the name Micha-el? > > Shanah tovah to everyone > Keith,

Micha-el, or Michael, is a question in Hebrew: Who is like G_d? The answer, of course, is that only G_d is like G_d.

There are other similar words, which are adaptations. In the song Ein Keloheinu one of the versus asks "Mi cheloheinu? Mi chadoneinu?" which means "Who is like our G_d? Who is like our Ruler?" [...] 3771 33 37_Re: Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur14_maxine wolfson27_PHossfield@news-e2c.gnn.com37_Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:48:34 -0400 (EDT)535_- In article <16SEP96.20304234@shrsys.hslc.org> nrandall wrote:

>I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to fast or >refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain. >>Thank you, >>Linda Zell Randall >mama to Todd Frederick Randall (Noach Moshe), 06/22/96

The very young, the elderly, the ill, and nursing mothers are exempt from fasting. Nursing mothers for the reason that fasting will threaten your milk supply, and thereby cause your very young child to fast along with you. [...] 3805 45 23_Re: Curricula requested15_Georganne Burke19_nbcnet@inforamp.net37_Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:19:36 -0400 (EDT)721_- What is the nature of the school? Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, community? Will it include children with disabilities? More information would be helpful, as we have recently started a new Yeshiva in Toronto which is a bold experiment that might be of interest to you.

Georganne Burke nbcnet@inforamp.net

In article <51n2j1$e0c@poisson.nosc.mil>, Louise Miller wrote: >On behalf of the curriculum committee of the proposed >San Diego (California) Jewish high school, I am requesting >sample curricula and class schedules from anyone who can >provide them. We are particularily interested in Maimonides >in Boston, Flatbush and Ramaz in New York, YULA and [...] 3851 30 37_Re: Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur14_Jan Silbermann16_js@cs.tulane.edu37_Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:49:27 -0400 (EDT)535_- In article <51nei0$fh8@news-e2c.gnn.com>, maxine wolfson wrote: >In article <16SEP96.20304234@shrsys.hslc.org> nrandall wrote: >>I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to >fast or >>refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain. > >The very young, the elderly, the ill, and nursing mothers >are exempt from fasting. Nursing mothers for the reason >that fasting will threaten your milk supply, and thereby >cause your very young child to fast along with you. [...] 3882 47 37_Re: Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur18_Isabel D Silverman27_isilverm@umabnet.ab.umd.edu37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:16:49 -0400 (EDT)565_- On 16 Sep 1996 nrandall@shrsys.hslc.org wrote:

> I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to fast or > refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain.

I don't know if you feel that you can do it, but I do know many mothers who have fasted *and* breastfed the entire day. Somehow, the body is able to compensate for a period, and produce enough milk without totally draining you. ( As an aside, there have been studies done re: women in third world countries who are malnourished and nurse, and the children [...] 3930 42 12_Re: Micha-el17_Chava Willig Levy21_primerib@mail.idt.net37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:18:04 -0400 (EDT)420_- Keith Jeremy Posner wrote: > > Can anyone tell me the exact meaning of the name Micha-el? > > Shanah tovah to everyone > > Keith > -- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Keith Posner posner@sodalia.it > Technical Writer > > Sodalia SpA > Via Valentina Zambra, 1 Tel: +39-(0)461-316159 > 38100 Trento Fax: +39-(0)461-316217 > ITALY > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > [...] 3973 36 29_Children's Services for RH/YK12_naomi pardue30_npardue@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:18:14 -0400 (EDT)596_- I was very disappointed in the children's services held by our shul for RH. Most of the kids there were preschool/early grade school, and couldn't read much English, let alone Hebrew. It a reform shul, so many of the kids aren't yet familiar with most of the prayers.

Yet the 30 minute service basically consisted of an abbreviated service in Hebrew (Barchu, Shema, first paragraph of the Amida, Alenu, Kaddish), and a short, not terribly child-friendly sermon. Most of the kids were CLEARLY bored and anxious to return to child care. The only time they got interested was when the [...] 4010 31 32_Re: Breast Feeding on Yom Kippor10_Marc Davis15_mdavis@infi.net37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:18:17 -0400 (EDT)470_- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marc Davis Subject: Re: Breast Feeding on Yom Kippor

Linda: This is a completely personal opinion, but I dont think that G-d would want to put anyone in physical danger during fasting. I was always told that if you need to take medication on Yom Kippor, take it. I had a kidney transplant 25 years ago, and I just drink water on that day. [...] 4042 40 20_Re: kids in services0_26_siegfried_r@spcvxb.spc.edu37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:03:09 -0400 (EDT)438_- In article , salem@mail.med.upenn.edu (Jerry Salem) writes: > Hello all and L'shana Tovah > > I have been watching the discussion over the past few weeks about brining > kids to services and thought I would chime in with my comments.

> 3) make it fun, not 'ominous'

> going on sat mornings during the year is the best way for them to get used > to going to high holiday services. [...] 4083 41 37_Re: Nursing vs. Fasting on Yom Kippur9_K Goldman20_kgold@watson.ibm.com37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:48:24 -0400 (EDT)398_- drukier@pegasus2.astro.indiana.edu (Gordon Drukier) writes: |> wrote: |> > |> >I have a 2.5 month old child whom I breastfeed. Am I supposed to fast or |> >refrain from fasting on Yom Kippur? Please respond and explain. |> > |> You are supposed to fast, except under exceptional circumstances. This |> is the sort of question that requires an answer from a Rabbi. [...] 4125 53 23_Re: Yom Kippur blessing10_Eric Simon23_erics@access2.digex.net37_Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:49:17 -0400 (EDT)561_- Shari (sfr2@hooked.net) wrote: : I wanted to share with you this blessing which our Rabbi passed out at : services yesterday. I am looking for a volunteer to transliterate the : Hebrew. Meanwhile, here's the English. The Rabbi received this from a : friend whose father, Erwin H. Lipstadt, z"l, had printed and distributed it : to friends and aquaintances. It is recited once a year on erev Yom Kippur. : There is a custom to bless children before going to synagogue because at : that moment the holiness of the day has begun and the gates of mercy have [...] 4179 54 23_Re: Yom Kippur blessing20_Irene Stern Friedman13_lexf@epix.net37_Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:05:39 -0400 (EDT)521_- We have blessed our three children each shabbat for many years just after candle lighting. Only one is left at home full-time now. The one who is at college is always eager to be blessed when she returns home or when we visit her at school. Our 6 foot + tall 15 year old son expects and enjoys his weekly blessing although he thinks it funny that either he must bend down or his father must stand on a stool in order for fatherly hands to be placed on the son's head! This ritual is meaningful to both parents and [...] 4234 17 12_Re: Micha-el0_7_???@???37_Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:54:30 -0400 (EDT)243_- Mi-cha-el translates as who-is like-God.



* This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. * Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent * authorities in those fields. 4252 61 30_A Kohane, Divorce & Remarriage8_Videtsky16_videtsky@aol.com37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:45:42 -0400 (EDT)384_- [Moderator's Note: With some trepidation, and after private discussion with the author, I have approved this post. I hope comments will not get bogged down on halacha, but will focus instead on the family and parenting issues the he raises. -- NS]

Here I sit on the eve before Yom Kippur searching deep inside of myself for answers. Perhaps, you might help me find one. [...] 4314 42 32_Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions21_Marla & Matthew Lecin20_mlecin@superlink.net37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:25:41 -0400 (EDT)420_- Hello,

We are expecting a baby boy in January, and I'm starting to look into what to arrange for the Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben. I know what the ceremonies basically are, but have lots of questions about the details. I've never been invited to attend either one, myself.

Does the Bris always involve choosing godparents for the child? (My upbringing is Reform, and my brother does not have godparents.) [...] 4357 36 25_Fasting and breastfeeding14_Hadass Eviatar26_eviatar@noether.ibd.nrc.ca37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:30:37 -0400 (EDT)406_- Hello friends,

I hope everyone had an easy fast and a meaningful Yom Kippur. Just wanted to add my data point: much to my surprise, I managed to fast all day yesterday, with just a little water. I should add that I was singing during the morning, so Rafi was in childcare and I didn't actually nurse until the afternoon (although I did visit him as frequently as I could). So it can be done! [...] 4394 17 37_Re: Help - Need Mitzvah Project Ideas10_Imababayit18_imababayit@aol.com37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT)332_- Danny Seigel's Book, "Tell Me a Mitzvah" has some wonderful stories and ideas for mitzvah projects suitable for both children and adults.

* This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. * Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent * authorities in those fields. 4412 57 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions17_Chava Willig Levy21_primerib@mail.idt.net37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:53:59 -0400 (EDT)586_- Marla and Matthew,

Mazel tov on your upcoming miracle. May all go well!

Just wanted to mention a book we found useful: "Bris Milah" by Rabbi Paysach Krohn, published by Artscroll/Mesorsah.

If you live in the NY tri-state area and would like mohel referrals, e-mail me.

All the best, Chava



Marla & Matthew Lecin wrote: > > Hello, > > We are expecting a baby boy in January, and I'm starting to look into > what to arrange for the Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben. I know what the > ceremonies basically are, but have lots of questions about the > [...] 4470 35 29_Re: Bee Control in the Sukkah10_Alan Rubin26_alan@rubin.compulink.co.uk37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:57:27 -0400 (EDT)536_- Isabel D Silverman wrote:



>In some stores or hardware stores, they sell a bee/yellowjacket catcher - >it's basically a glass container with a few in-ports, and you fill it >with juice and a few pieces of meat. The bees get in, but they can't find >their way out. We used it last year, and by the end of the week, the >bottom was filled with bee carcasses. > >It costs about $10, and is reusable (wash it out first!) I don't know the >brand name, though, soi good luck locating one! > [...] 4506 34 67_Re: Helping Christians Understand the Diversity of Judaic Practices11_JX and Soph16_sophjxl@dnai.com37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:57:32 -0400 (EDT)460_- JRomjrom@aol.com wrote:

> What if the Twins Club had their sale on Good Friday for example. Perhaps > using such a scenario might help the Twin Club people understand the > situation better....Heaven knows they need to!!!!! Joanna in DC

Probaby wouldn't fly. Several years ago when I told my boss I couldn't work on Wednesday because it was Yom Kippur, he responded that it wouldn't be fair to Christans as they don't get Good Friday off. [...] 4541 92 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions13_Louise Miller22_miller@louise.ucsd.edu37_Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:57:35 -0400 (EDT)469_- mlecin@superlink.net (Marla & Matthew Lecin) wrote: >Hello, > >We are expecting a baby boy in January, and I'm starting to look into >what to arrange for the Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben. I know what the >ceremonies basically are, but have lots of questions about the >details. I've never been invited to attend either one, myself. > >Does the Bris always involve choosing godparents for the child? >(My upbringing is Reform, and my brother does not have godparents.) [...] 4634 37 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions15_Gershom Barnard26_barnard@physung.phy.uc.edu37_Thu, 26 Sep 1996 03:44:10 -0400 (EDT)571_- The so-called "godparents" at a bris (called kevatter and kevatterin in Yiddish) don't have any enduring religious obligations. Designating people to hold the baby at the bris is basically a way of honoring them.

Halakhically, you must use 5 shekels of silver for a pidoyn haben. Five current Israeli shekels won't do the trick - I doubt if they have much silver in them at all. The shekel was originally a unit of weight, and the 5 shekels that you need come to about 100 grams. Five pre-WW II silver dollars are OK. The State of Israel mints pidyon haben [...] 4672 29 4_CTTS14_Jan Silbermann16_js@cs.tulane.edu37_Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:43:27 -0400 (EDT)521_- My daughter's school is having a model sukkah building contest. Tovah and I went to the craft store to buy some materials to build her model. As we were checking out the cashier (who was wearing a cross around her neck) asked us what we were going to make. I told her it was for a Jewish holiday and was a little hard to explain, but we live in 'small huts' this time of year. The cashier smiled and said "Oh, I know, I've been to Israel, you're going to build a Sukkah!" It was such a nice experience, especially [...] 4702 64 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions12_Paul S. Wolf27_aa854@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu37_Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:09:49 -0400 (EDT)319_- Marla & Matthew Lecin wrote: > > Hello, > > We are expecting a baby boy in January, and I'm starting to look into > what to arrange for the Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben. I know what the > ceremonies basically are, but have lots of questions about the > details. I've never been invited to attend either one, myself. > [...] 4767 61 24_B'nai Mitzvah scheduling10_Marty Hood13_mmhood@io.com37_Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:39:14 -0400 (EDT)400_- Our congregation (Congregation Agudas Achim in Austin, TX) is growing at a rate such that in a few years we expect to have more children in our B'nai Mitzvah class than weekends available to celebrate. A committee has been formed and is soliciting ideas. The chair of the committee (knowing that I'm an Internet geek) has asked me to solicit ideas and experiences from the Internet community. [...] 4829 42 33_Re: Children's Services for RH/YK9_K Goldman20_kgold@watson.ibm.com37_Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:39:43 -0400 (EDT)330_- npardue@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (naomi pardue) writes: |> I was very disappointed in the children's services held by our shul for |> RH. [snip] |> But does anyone have any ideas to make these services meaningful and |> interesting for little ones? It may be too late to do anything for Yom |> Kippur, but maybe next year... [...] 4872 68 32_Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions16_Debra Fran Baker17_dfbaker@panix.com37_Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:47:26 -0400 (EDT)331_- Hello,

>We are expecting a baby boy in January, and I'm starting to look into

May it be in good hour.



>what to arrange for the Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben. I know what the >ceremonies basically are, but have lots of questions about the >details. I've never been invited to attend either one, myself. [...] 4941 55 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions0_16_Elizcat1@aol.com37_Fri, 27 Sep 1996 00:40:01 -0400 (EDT)562_- I feel it is extremely important to point out that godparents are NOT in the Jewish tradition. They, like so many other things, like organs in synagogues and baby showers, unfortunately, have been picked up from Christians and added to Judaism.

My stepsister just had a son and named godparents for him and I was just sick at the whole thing. Godparents are, as I understand it, or Italian Catholic background, and a practice to provide for the Catholic upbringing of a child should his parents die. This is not, I repeat again, a Jewish practice. [...] 4997 80 44_Re: Hillel's teachings vs. the "Golden Rule"15_Fred Rosenblatt34_Frederic.H.Rosenblatt@jpl.nasa.gov37_Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:49:33 -0400 (EDT)594_- In article <51kdl2$i45@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, mleeds@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Michael A. Leeds) wrote:

> I am sure someone else will have this more accurately than I, but > here's my version. A non-Jew approached Rav Shammai and asked the Rabbi > if he could teach all there was to Judaism while standing on one foot. > Naturally, the hot-headed Shammai sent him away (did I mention that this > story must have originated with a disciple of Hillel?). The non-Jew then > went to Hillel, who told him, "Do not do unto others that which is > hateful to you. The rest is detail. Go [...] 5078 32 29_Re: Fasting and breastfeeding10_Beth Appel19_elisheva@delphi.com37_Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:50:19 -0400 (EDT)253_- Here's my data point: I fasted all of Yom Kippur and I'm nursing a 4 month old and a 2.5 year old (occasionally). I usually find that it's never as bad as I think it will be. I stayed home all day (no services) and tried not to overexert myself. [...] 5111 53 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions14_Max Weisenfeld25_74744.1656@CompuServe.COM37_Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:43:56 -0400 (EDT)562_- You wrote: > I feel it is extremely important to point out that godparents are NOT in > the Jewish tradition. They, like so many other things, like organs in > synagogues and baby showers, unfortunately, have been picked up from > Christians and added to Judaism.

I find it so sad that you feel that way. So many things have been incorporated into Judaism from whatever culture we happened to share our space with. For example, we have just spent a coupl4e of weeks intoning (I to my organ, you a cappella) "On Rosh Hashana it is written..." which [...] 5165 33 24_B'Nai Mitzvot Scheduling0_16_JRomjrom@aol.com37_Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:42:15 -0400 (EDT)442_- mmhood@io.com (Marty Hood) wrote: > >Our congregation (Congregation Agudas Achim in Austin, TX) is growing at >a rate such that in a few years we expect to have more children in our >B'nai Mitzvah class than weekends available to celebrate. A committee >has been formed and is soliciting ideas. The chair of the committee >(knowing that I'm an Internet geek) has asked me to solicit ideas and >experiences from the Internet community. [...] 5199 36 36_Re: Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben questions19_susan (d.s.) marcus17_smarcus@nortel.ca37_Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:15:28 -0400 (EDT)279_- This is only mildly related to the above topic in terms of parenting but I think it's a cute Pinyan ha-Ben Story.

A friend of mine as an adult found out that his parents never had a Pinyan ha-Ben for him when he was an infant (he would have qualified to have one). [...] 5236 68 18_Brit, Pidyon Haben14_Hadass Eviatar26_eviatar@noether.ibd.nrc.ca37_Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:47:13 -0400 (EDT)375_- Marla wrote:

> We are expecting a baby boy in January, and I'm starting to look into > what to arrange for the Bris and Pinyan ha-Ben.

Besha'a tova! Actually, it is Pidyon ha-Ben. Just a small point ...



> Does the Bris always involve choosing godparents for the child? > (My upbringing is Reform, and my brother does not have godparents.) [...] 5305 67 0_14_Hadass Eviatar26_eviatar@noether.ibd.nrc.ca37_Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:50:21 -0400 (EDT)308_- Videtsky wrote:

> Here I sit on the eve before Yom Kippur searching deep inside of myself > for answers. Perhaps, you might help me find one.

To get a proper answer, you should consult your rabbi. The net is not the place to look for a psak. That having been said, here are my thoughts. [...]