1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/scj-parenting September 1995 2 10 14_This is a test16_Daniel P. Faigin24_faigin@solarium.aero.org30_Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:21:11 -0700158_- This is a test to see if anything is going through the mailing list side, as nothing seems to be showing when when I send it from scjp-submit.

Daniel 13 13 11_Two Two Two0_24_faigin@SOLARIUM.AERO.ORG30_Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:52:24 -0700283_-

This is test number two. If I'm correct, the fact that this is from faigin@solarium.aero.org combined with the fact that faigin@solarium.aero.org is one of the owners of the list means that the message will be sent through as if the moderator had approved it.

Daniel 27 13 11_One One One13_Daniel Faigin14_faigin@ACM.ORG30_Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:14:50 -0700361_- This is test number five. It is coming from an address known to work correctly for moderation. The leading paragraphs have been deleted, but the subheaders are cut down to two lines. Let's see if this goes through. If it does, and four four four does not, then we may have to change the real moderator to scjp@israel.nysernet.org, or even a simple scjp. [...] 41 17 11_six six six0_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org30_Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:38:13 -0700371_- Message-Id: <95Sep6.075149pdt.111150-2@aero.org> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:51:20 -0700 Reply-To: faigin@ACM.ORG From: Daniel Faigin Sender: Daniel Faigin Subject: six six six

This is test six. In the subheader, the embedded sender and x-listserv... have been deleted, and the from has been duplicated as the sender.

Daniel 59 31 15_One One One Aye13_Daniel Faigin14_faigin@ACM.ORG26_Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:53:45 EDT607_- This is a test of approval and injection via Email. For some reason, the list processor will send to scjp-submit, but won't recognize it as a moderator for purposes of approval. This could be due to the shamash/israel distinction, needing to not have the domain, the fact that scjp-submit is an alias -- who knows. However, it does clearly recognize owners, and does that based on the From(colon) line, not the From(space) line. So, injection has been modified to be from the list owner, rand@dorsai.dorsai.org. Additionally, funny things are done with the headers if anything more than a sender and [...] 91 24 49_Please be aware that we are still in testing mode0_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:51:24 -0700563_-

While working on list configuration, I noticed that a number of people have already subscribed to scj-parenting. While I admire your support, and hope that you have already cast your vote in the usenet CFV (send a message consisting of the words "send cfv" to faigin@shamash.nyserent.org for more info), I wanted to remind you that this list is in test mode. We're working on training the moderators to use the random moderation facility, and verifying that said facility works correctly. Thus, you may be getting test messages during this period. [...] 116 22 4_Test16_Daniel P. Faigin24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Wed, 13 Sep 1995 16:40:24 -0400401_- To see if the perl 5 updated versions are working...

Daniel





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Daniel





DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 163 26 25_Final Exam Question AS-010_24_faigin@SOLARIUM.AERO.ORG31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:02:08 -0400369_- When I told her about my grandparents at Dachau, my seven year old told me "that's ok - I'm not Jewish like them, so I would be safe". Is this normal defense behavior? Should I try and explain that even though we're raising her in a secular home, that she would be Jewish by the standards of Hitler, but that she's safe from him because he died a long time ago? [...] 190 24 26_Final Exam Question IF-L030_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:27:35 -0400527_- What would be the appropriate behaviour of a child of an interfaith relationship (not being raised Jewish) when their Jewish parent dies, and the rest of the family sits shiva?









DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 215 24 25_Final Exam Question IF-120_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:28:15 -0400545_- We're atheists, but raising our children culturally Jewish - how do we explain to our older daughter that despite what her Hebrew School teacher tells her, we can be Jews and not believe in God.









DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 240 25 26_Final Exam Question IF-L130_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:30:45 -0400305_- My wife has left me, and I have custody of our daughter. I used to be a Catholic, and my Catholicism has been a real comfort to me since the divorce. I'd like to raise my daughter as a Catholic, and yet let her understand and teach her to respect her Jewish heritage. What can I do to foster that? [...] 266 30 25_Final Exam Question IF-090_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:31:33 -0400535_- We keep a Kosher home. My husband converted from a Christian religion many years ago. On the first Christmas after our son was born, his father's family invited us to spend part of the holiday with them. My son was just beginning to eat finger foods, and while we were napping, my MIL gave our son HAM salad to eat, "forgetting" that we keep Kosher. I was furious, and insisted that we leave. Now my son is 2, and they've offered to take him for a weekend. We'd love the time alone, but I'm petrified that she'll be letting him [...] 297 26 25_Final Exam Question IF-020_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:34:20 -0400365_- Now that I've got preschoolers, I find myself avoiding stores from October to February. Besides the obvious complaint that Christmas is ONE DAY LONG, but we've got to face it for 6 months, I need to some way to reinforce that this isn't OUR holiday to my kids. Besides living like a hermit, what do you do to keep this red and green invasion from your home? [...] 324 31 25_Final Exam Question VA-040_24_faigin@SOLARIUM.AERO.ORG31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:47:28 -0400619_- [Note: When responding to this, please avoid attacking the validity of any Jewish movements. Thank you. Yr. Mod.]

I've met a single mom with two kids. She says she's an atheist Jew, I'm affiliated with an egalitarian Conservative synagogue. We're recently engaged and are now discussing having another child. I'm VERY unhappy with the non-practicing nature of her childrearing, and would want my kids to be involved with my synagogue. Her kids are picking up on this disagreement, and it is making everyone miserable. How do we combine two very different views of Judaism when raising our blended family? [...] 356 25 25_Final Exam Question VA-050_24_faigin@SOLARIUM.AERO.ORG31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:55:13 -0400306_- My Reform wife just bought my two sons Power Rangers Kippot for synagogue. I'm appalled. My sons attend a Modern Orthodox shul. Would these kippot be unacceptable at my shul, even though it is clear that my sons LOVE the kippot and will wear them willingly, unlike their usual black crocheted ones. [...] 382 27 26_Final Exam Question IF-L140_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:06:33 -0400491_- My partner and I have just adopted a little boy who is not Jewish. We've been fighting over the decision of whether to convert the child or not. My husband really wants my son to be Jewish, and I'm not sure I do. He's not religious at all, and doesn't want him to be religiously Jewish, while I would like my kids to be religious Christians. All he can tell me is that its a "feeling" that he'd be failing his son if he didn't have a Jewish child. Can anyone help me understand this? [...] 410 22 25_Final Exam Question PR-080_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:23:37 -0400387_- What tunes do you use for modeh ani?









DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 433 25 25_Final Exam Question OT-010_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:35:25 -0400599_- We won't be having a pidyan ha ben for our son, since we previously lost another child through miscarriage. However, we don't want to disclose this (for a variety of reasons) to our families. Has anyone else had to deal with this type of situation?









DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 459 26 26_Final Exam Question IF-L010_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:36:33 -0400354_- We are raising our child Jewish, but she has gotten involved with an evangelical Christian crowd at school. She wants to introduce Christian holidays into our home, claiming that, since Dad is Christian, she should have the choice to be too. What should I do? [By the way, Dad does go to church pretty often and is more than willing to allow it.] [...] 486 29 26_Final Exam Question IF-L150_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:57:02 -0400344_- My wife is non-practicing Moslem, with many relatives in Palestine. I'm Jewish, and my teenaged son is starting to ask complicated questions about the conflicts between Jews and Christians in Israel. Every time my wife and I try to talk about our feelings, we get very upset and can't really agree - what do you suggest we tell our son? [...] 516 25 25_Final Exam Question DL-010_24_faigin@solarium.aero.org31_Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:58:19 -0400602_- I have become much more observent and now want to keep kosher in our home. Neither spouse nor child is thrilled with the idea. While I can't stop spouse from eating BLT's out, can I enforce the rules out-of-home for my child? (She says it isn't fair.)









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DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 659 41 29_Re: Final Exam Question DL-010_17_bdlerner@JTSA.EDU31_Sun, 17 Sep 1995 09:16:09 -0400492_- Dear Chevreh,

When one member of a family acts unilaterally, even to become more observant, there is a great strain on the family members not so committed or enthusiastic. I would seek out those who are expert in developing and strengthening internal family relationships while accomodating changes. Thus I feel that this is less a Rabbinic or halachic issue when the family is at stake. Better to know those limits and how far they can be stretched before pulling and pushing. [...] 701 29 0_0_16_NinaSalk@aol.com31_Tue, 19 Sep 1995 01:48:50 -0400752_- Sep 1995 07:21:55 -0700 From: faigin@solarium.aero.org Subject: Final Exam Question PR-06 Message-Id: <95Sep15.072232pdt.111167-1@aero.org>

The following submission has been received for soc.culture.jewish.parenting

I invented some kosher l'Pesach cookie recipes that my picky 2-year-old will actually eat; would anyone like to exchange toddler-friendly Pesach recipes?



SCJP APPROVE



DISCLAIMER: The contents of the article reflect the opinion of the author of the article, and may not reflect the opinion of the moderators and advisors of the newsgroup/mailing list. Medical and halachic opinions should always be reviewed and double-checked with an appropriate medical or halachic authority. 731 89 29_Re: Final Exam Question CI-030_17_bdlerner@JTSA.EDU31_Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:26:22 -0400437_- On Fri, 15 Sep 1995 faigin@solarium.aero.org wrote:

> We just had our first child -- a boy -- and though there's no question for us > about circumcising him, I feel terrible about having to put him through this. > How have others coped?

Dear Friends,

I offer the following suggestions to parents for their first son's "brit milah" (ritual circumcision) sometimes called a "bris" in "older" Hebrew or Yiddish. [...] 821 25 23_Re: Brit-Milah and pain0_16_ValLipow@aol.com31_Fri, 22 Sep 1995 21:07:09 -0400532_- Our son was circumsised by a Jewish pediatrician. He provided a topical anaesthetic that we used before the ceremony.

The one in pain during the procedure was my husband.

L'shana -

Val



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