1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/scj-parenting April 2002 2 44 64_[SCJ-PARENTING:6801] fun Passover field trip for Northeasterners19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com28_Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:14:58 EST552_-

Yesterday we did something I've always wanted to do and visited a maple-sugaring farm. It was relatively quiet because it was Easter Sunday, and we had a really wonderful time. Brought our own matzah meal pancakes and paper plates (we checked with them ahead of time that this was OK), watched maple sap being boiled down to syrup, and bought some new bottles of syrup to put on our pancakes. (We could be sure that the grade A syrup was made prior to Pesach since this is the end of the season and they're making grade B now. You learn [...] 47 35 68_[SCJ-PARENTING:6802] Re: fun Passover field trip for Northeasterners8_JanetLDD16_janetldd@aol.com28_Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:17:24 EST509_- sounds like a fun idea but you are really not permitted to buy chametz during pesach. but i had something wierd happen which never did. i did not know what to do. i bought my son bissli which is kosher for pesach some. he wanted one yesterday. i wanted to see what it tasted like i bit into one and no different taste. well guess what that one must have been put there by mistake. it was chametz but the rest i bought were pesach. i guess u must check everything . my 8 year old could not believe that [...] 83 42 68_[SCJ-PARENTING:6803] Re: fun Passover field trip for Northeasterners10_animzmirot20_animzmirot@attbi.com28_Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:36:36 EST384_-

"JanetLDD" wrote in message news:20020402082407.14065.00001172@mb-ce.aol.com... > sounds like a fun idea but you are really not permitted to buy chametz during > pesach.

Janet, PAY ATTENTION. She didn't buy hametz. She brought her own matzoh pancakes with her. You should read more carefully before you chastise Andrea. She did nothing wrong. [...] 126 39 65_[SCJ-PARENTING:6804] 113 Educational Websites about the Holocaust13_Jacob Richman17_jrichman@jr.co.il28_Fri, 5 Apr 2002 08:55:46 EST562_- Holocaust Remembrance Day is Tuesday, April 9. I posted on my website 113 links to learn about the Holocaust.

The web address is:



http://www.jr.co.il/hotsites/j-holoc.htm



We must not forget. Jacob

============================================================================== This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent authorities in those fields. [...] 166 48 36_[SCJ-PARENTING:6805] Kiddush Decorum14_Yisroel Markov19_ey.markov@iname.com29_Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:21:09 EDT276_- One of my wife's biggest frustrations is to get our kids to behave at kiddush. All that she wants them to do is be at the table while I sing Shalom Aleichem and Eishet Khayil (to get them to sing along would be a bonus), and then stand still and listen to the kiddush. [...] 215 36 54_[SCJ-PARENTING:6806] anyone know this Yiddish lullaby?5_Wendy31_homebody@deepthought.armory.com29_Wed, 10 Apr 2002 02:28:11 EDT147_- I'm trying to find the words to a lullaby my great-uncle used to sing. Thr first line was:

"Sha, sha, katzelemeine"

Anyone know it? 252 55 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:6807] Re: Kiddush Decorum16_Evelyn C. Leeper21_eleeper@optonline.net29_Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:09:14 EDT510_- Yisroel Markov wrote: > > One of my wife's biggest frustrations is to get our kids to behave at > kiddush. All that she wants them to do is be at the table while I sing > Shalom Aleichem and Eishet Khayil (to get them to sing along would be > a bonus), and then stand still and listen to the kiddush. > > In practice, first it's difficult to get them to stop whatever it is > they're doing and come to the table when I come home from shul. > Second, they often start fighting over something, re-arrange [...] 308 27 42_[SCJ-PARENTING:6808] Jewish lullaby music.11_Daughertylr19_daughertylr@aol.com29_Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:58:51 EDT579_- Does anyone know where I can purchase some lullaby music for my daughter?

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Here's a nagging question I was reminded of by the "Kiddush Decorum" = thread: how do parents here handle kids jostling for favourite places = to sit at the table? [...] 603 130 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:6813] Re: Kiddush Decorum6_Jfer P17_J3fer@hotmail.com29_Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:19:17 EDT472_- Yisroel:

My kids are 6 and 7, and I find it's getting harder to keep them at the table as they get older. Nevertheless, here are a few tricks we use around here:

1) Listen Up! Talk to them during the day on Friday about how much you're looking forward to their "big kid" singing voices, their divrei Torah, etc. This is the #1 suggestion I think I could make. When my kids know I'm *really* listening, they *really* try to live up to my expectations. [...] 734 102 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:6814] Re: Kiddush Decorum10_animzmirot20_animzmirot@attbi.com29_Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:29:20 EDT295_- I agree with Rona, although my kids were a bit older than 5 when they settled down and started being respectful of Shabbat. As little kids they HATED being blessed and would run away. Now I get big kisses from both my kids and really tender "shabbat shaloms" that do a mom's heart proud. [...] 837 12 60_[SCJ-PARENTING:6816] Re: Favourite Places at the Table...?!?17_Aliza N. Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Sat, 13 Apr 2002 02:15:50 EDT328_-

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For me, too, I ended up compromising, and the compromise I made was not asking my five-year-old to help prepare the meal and set the table. I realized that we were coming home very tired and cranky on Friday evenings, and when I started wrangling with her to do this and do that, we would both be in a very bad mood by the time we were ready to sit down. I decided that I had the rest of the week to deal with chores and helping, and [...]