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2 28 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6171] Parenting Summer Conferences?8_VeraAloe16_veraaloe@aol.com28_Sun, 6 May 2001 16:20:13 EDT607_- Does anyone know of a summer conference that would feature Jewish family or parenting issues? Thanks.
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31 49 33_[SCJ-PARENTING:6172] Yeshiva Woes12_maxine in ri20_weedfam@hotmail.coma28_Tue, 8 May 2001 12:55:50 EDT293_-
While at a bar mitzva this weekend, I met a cousin of the family whose daughter and mine became inseparable. In talking to the mother, she told me her daughter has been in 5 yeshivas, and she is currently looking to find another for next year when the child enters high school. [...]
81 89 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6173] Re: Yeshiva Woes6_Jfer P17_j3fer@hotmail.com28_Tue, 8 May 2001 17:56:26 EDT504_- Maxine wrote: > The woman is Conservative, and married a non-Jew. It seems > whenever the students of the school her daughter attends > find this out, they beat her up.
Yes, the roshei yeshiva should be more humane, but on the other hand, I think this woman needs to take responsibility for a situation that SHE has created. She's asking institutions where Judaism is taught normatively to accept her relativistic definition of what is and is not acceptable. It's just not going to happen. [...]
171 61 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6174] Re: Yeshiva Woes16_Evelyn C. Leeper18_eleeper@lucent.com28_Wed, 9 May 2001 10:28:07 EDT548_- In article <3AF81674.E6003124@hotmail.coma>, maxine in ri wrote: > > While at a bar mitzva this weekend, I met a cousin of the family > whose daughter and mine became inseparable. In talking to the > mother, she told me her daughter has been in 5 yeshivas, and > she is currently looking to find another for next year when the > child enters high school. > > Being in Brooklyn, there are a lot of yeshiva schools, but she > has not been able to find a Conservative yeshiva high school, > where this might be less of an [...]
233 102 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6175] Re: Yeshiva Woes12_maxine in ri20_weedfam@hotmail.coma28_Wed, 9 May 2001 10:30:09 EDT533_- Jfer P wrote: > > Maxine wrote: > > The woman is Conservative, and married a non-Jew. It seems > > whenever the students of the school her daughter attends > > find this out, they beat her up. > > Yes, the roshei yeshiva should be more humane, but on the other hand, I > think this woman needs to take responsibility for a situation that SHE has > created. She's asking institutions where Judaism is taught normatively to > accept her relativistic definition of what is and is not acceptable. It's > just not going to happen. [...]
336 43 33_[SCJ-PARENTING:6177] Yeshiva Woes15_Irene Bleiweiss16_IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov28_Wed, 9 May 2001 10:35:38 EDT589_- I must say that I am very surprised to hear that the child is being treated this way by her Jewish peers and the roshei yeshiva. It is abominable.
Still, I don't understand Jennifer's suggestion that asking the father to convert could improve the child's predicament. It seems as if reason for the abominable behavior of others is that this child was born from a non- recognized relationship. That wouldn't change even if the father converted after the fact, right? Or are you saying that the child is being treated this way because she is somehow being held responsible for [...]
380 95 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6178] Re: Yeshiva Woes19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com28_Wed, 9 May 2001 10:47:56 EDT550_-
Jennifer wrote:
> Maxine wrote: >> The woman is Conservative, and married a non-Jew. It seems >> whenever the students of the school her daughter attends >> find this out, they beat her up.
> Yes, the roshei yeshiva should be more humane, but on the other hand, I > think this woman needs to take responsibility for a situation that SHE has > created. She's asking institutions where Judaism is taught normatively to > accept her relativistic definition of what is and is not acceptable. It's > just not going to happen. [...]
476 45 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:6179] SCJ-PARENTING digest 14450_25_maury@turing.eecs.uic.edu28_Wed, 9 May 2001 10:55:37 EDT390_- > > The woman is Conservative, and married a non-Jew. It seems > whenever the students of the school her daughter attends > find this out, they beat her up. > > I understand the kids, but the response I don't understand > is the rosh yeshivot, who have all told the mother "What > can you expect?" > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to help the child > cope? Or the mother? [...]
522 43 33_[SCJ-PARENTING:6181] yeshiva woes0_18_BKadden@aol.com=2028_Wed, 9 May 2001 13:01:18 EDT531_- There is no place - any place for children to "get beat up" in any = school=20 environment. I do not care if it is charedi, liberal or is located on = the=20 moon! A rosh yeshiva with that attitude needs a wake up call, maybe from = the=20 authorites. Judaism does not advocate bullying or beating. Get with = it=20 people there are no excuses. This child does not have to cope. One child = I=20 know of with some physical disabilities was being taunted and harassed = at=20 school, the school did not step up so the parent [...]
566 47 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:6183] Conservative yeshiva0_17_bdlerner@JTSA.EDU29_Thu, 10 May 2001 00:32:43 EDT317_- Have your cousin call as quickly as possible to see if they are still registering students for the coming year - Dr. Robert Abrams who will have the correct telephone and administrator - 212-533-7800.
Best wishes and it's sad that this is how Jewish youth are being allowed to behave if not encouraged! [...]
614 43 42_[SCJ-PARENTING:6184] Modest maternity wear14_Elisabeth Riba19_lis@osmond-riba.org29_Thu, 10 May 2001 09:51:35 EDT525_- A few months back,someone posted looking for suitably modest maternity=20 wear. Today's Boston Globe gives brief mention of such a store. =20 It may be too late for that poster, but maybe this will help other=20 expecting parents reading the group (or archives).
"There's a new line of maternity clothes for Orthodox Jewish women,=20 offering full-length sleeves, knee-covering hemlines, and acceptable=20 fits. From www.metromom.com." - Source http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/130/living/The_Look+.sht= ml=20 [...]
658 74 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6185] Re: Yeshiva Woes15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 09:55:10 EDT624_- In article <9d9avj$aq1@nntpa.cb.lucent.com>, eleeper@lucent.com wrote:
>In article <3AF81674.E6003124@hotmail.coma>, >maxine in ri wrote: >>=20 >> While at a bar mitzva this weekend, I met a cousin of the family >> whose daughter and mine became inseparable. In talking to the >> mother, she told me her daughter has been in 5 yeshivas, and >> she is currently looking to find another for next year when the >> child enters high school. >>=20 >> Being in Brooklyn, there are a lot of yeshiva schools, but she >> has not been able to find a Conservative yeshiva high school, >> where this [...]
733 73 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6187] Re: Yeshiva Woes15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 11:58:18 EDT625_- In article <3AF9285F.5449EF35@hotmail.coma>, weedfam@hotmail.com wrote:
>her schooling. Altho she never mentioned the problems at >school, she did seem surprized when I said that we observed Shabbat. >Her comment was that her dad wouldn't have it in his house(!) > >> But it really makes me wonder why he's willing to put his daughter through >> that kind of suffering and ostracism rather than convert and help give her a >> secure religious identity. Grown-ups stick to their guns at the oddest >> times... > >What I was told is that when they married, neither was observing their >religions, but the [...]
807 70 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6188] Re: Yeshiva Woes15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 12:14:38 EDT566_- In article , "Irene Bleiweiss" wrote:
>I must say that I am very surprised to hear that the child is being treated >this way by her Jewish peers and the roshei yeshiva. It is abominable. >Still, I don't understand Jennifer's suggestion that asking the father to >convert could improve the child's predicament. It seems as if reason for the >abominable behavior of others is that this child was born from a non- >recognized relationship. That wouldn't change even if the father converted >after the fact, right? [...]
878 57 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6189] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144515_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 12:23:05 EDT538_- In article <989418891scjp-submit@shamash.org>, maury@turing.eecs.uic.edu wrote:
> > > > The woman is Conservative, and married a non-Jew. It seems > > whenever the students of the school her daughter attends > > find this out, they beat her up. > > > > I understand the kids, but the response I don't understand > > is the rosh yeshivot, who have all told the mother "What > > can you expect?" > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to help the child > > cope? Or the mother? > >Yeah, get her out of Jewish schools [...]
936 40 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6190] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144516_Evelyn C. Leeper18_eleeper@lucent.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 12:48:58 EDT506_- In article , Fred Rosenblatt wrote: > > I just heard about a Jewish school in New York that is dropping its > traditional Mother's Day activities because a child's two adoptive > fathers objected. So there are other alternatives.
I feel obliged to point out this is incorrect and a correction was issued. The objections came from parents whose children had recently lost a mother through death or a father through abandonment.
977 51 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6191] Re: Yeshiva Woes17_Kris Hasson-Jones19_snippy@pacifier.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 12:49:30 EDT596_- Fred Rosenblatt wrote:
[Jewish child at Jewish school bullied because her father isn't Jewish]
> At > the very least it seems obvious that the father is deeply resentful > of the situation, and that can't help but rub off on the child's > demeanor at school.
I don't think that's obvious at all. My first husband was Jewish, but he is less interested in supporting our children's religious life and education than my second husband, who is *not* Jewish. My first husband won't help pay for religious school, doesn't make Shabbos or take them to shul when they're with [...]
1029 63 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6192] Re: Yeshiva Woes15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 14:59:12 EDT639_- In article <3AFABDB7.9F8DDDC2@pacifier.com>, Kris Hasson-Jones wrote:
>Fred Rosenblatt wrote: > >[Jewish child at Jewish school bullied because her father isn't >Jewish] > >> At >> the very least it seems obvious that the father is deeply resentful >> of the situation, and that can't help but rub off on the child's >> demeanor at school. > >I don't think that's obvious at all. My first husband was Jewish, >but he is less interested in supporting our children's religious >life and education than my second husband, who is *not* Jewish. >My first husband won't help pay for religious school, doesn't [...]
1093 41 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6193] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144515_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 15:09:34 EDT594_- In article <9defnu$o7v@nntpa.cb.lucent.com>, eleeper@lucent.com wrote:
>In article , >Fred Rosenblatt wrote: >> >> I just heard about a Jewish school in New York that is dropping its >> traditional Mother's Day activities because a child's two adoptive >> fathers objected. So there are other alternatives. > >I feel obliged to point out this is incorrect and a correction was >issued. The objections came from parents whose children had recently >lost a mother through death or a father through abandonment. [...]
1135 45 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:6195] SCJ-PARENTING digest 14460_25_maury@turing.eecs.uic.edu29_Thu, 10 May 2001 16:10:55 EDT589_-
I find it interesting that so many people are surprised about kids getting beat up in Jewish Day schools. Frankly, I thought that it was common knowlege that kids perceived as different get beat up or teased or otherwise tormented in school, and reports from parents I know indicate that it's worse in Jewish Day schools than in most places, perhaps because of homogeneous populations and perhaps because of a tacit acceptance by the faculty and staff (in the "boys will be boys"). The only somewhat surprising things in this scenario are (1) it's a girl being beat up (not [...]
1181 43 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6196] Re: Yeshiva Woes15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 16:11:16 EDT523_- In article , "Jfer P" wrote:
> >As an aside, it's true that there ARE intermarried Orthodox Jews, just like >there are gay Orthodox Jews (Moment magazine did a thoughtful feature about >that subject last month). Nobody likes to talk about it, and many Orthodox >rabbis would like to pretend that by dating a non-Jew, an otherwise >observant person tears up her "Orthodox" card. That's nice for them, >because it gives them a 0% intermarriage rate. [...]
1225 129 43_[SCJ-PARENTING:6197] Yeshiva Woes, Part II?6_Jfer P17_j3fer@hotmail.com29_Thu, 10 May 2001 16:28:12 EDT610_- I was surprised with the intensity with which Irene and Alexandra wrote=20 back, but they both made some valid points...
Irene wrote: >I don't understand Jennifer's suggestion that asking the father to convert could improve the child's predicament. It seems as if reason = for=20 the abominable behavior of others is that this child was born from a=20 non-recognized relationship. That wouldn't change even if the father=20 converted after the fact, right? Or are you saying that the child is = being=20 treated this way because she is somehow being held responsible for her=20 mother's actions? [...]
1355 92 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6199] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 14470_17_bdlerner@JTSA.EDU29_Thu, 10 May 2001 16:54:23 EDT460_- Dear Friends,
I'd like to believe that in the face of violence and ad hominem assaults if not battery that every observant Jewish person would object and protest.
Schools are intended to be places for safety as well as for the inculcation of beliefs and standards, and what is the point of Jewish observance if it also includes - as alleged - permissiveness for sufficient intimidation if not physical assault that the child is withdrawn. [...]
1448 77 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6200] Re: Yeshiva Woes22_Adelle D. Stavis, Esq.19_adelle@mediaone.net29_Thu, 10 May 2001 20:28:49 EDT588_-
----- Original Message ----- From: "maxine in ri" Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish.parenting Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: Yeshiva Woes
> > While at a bar mitzva this weekend, I met a cousin of the family > whose daughter and mine became inseparable. In talking to the > mother, she told me her daughter has been in 5 yeshivas, and > she is currently looking to find another for next year when the > child enters high school. > > Being in Brooklyn, there are a lot of yeshiva schools, but she > has not been able to find [...]
1526 56 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6201] Re: Yeshiva Woes12_maxine in ri20_weedfam@hotmail.coma29_Fri, 11 May 2001 10:17:15 EDT456_- "Adelle D. Stavis, Esq." wrote:
> Hi, Maxine; > > We used to live near the Solomon Schechter school in Queens (Kew Garden > Hills). The Solomon Schechter Schools are aligned with the Conservative > movement. At one time there was a plan to continue up to High School. Not > sure if that ever came to fruition as our family moved out of NYC nearly a > decade ago. Has she called a Schechter School to find out if there are any > High Schools? [...]
1583 71 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6202] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144715_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Fri, 11 May 2001 13:00:56 EDT633_- In article <989527628scjp-submit@shamash.org>, bdlerner@JTSA.EDU wrote:
>Dear Friends, > >I'd like to believe that in the face of violence and ad hominem assaults >if not battery that every observant Jewish person would object and >protest. > >Schools are intended to be places for safety as well as for the >inculcation of beliefs and standards, and what is the point of Jewish >observance if it also includes - as alleged - permissiveness for >sufficient intimidation if not physical assault that the child is >withdrawn. > >Let's not try to find in the child, the mother, the father, the marriage >or anything which [...]
1655 74 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6203] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144516_Evelyn C. Leeper18_eleeper@lucent.com29_Fri, 11 May 2001 14:11:44 EDT720_- In article , Fred Rosenblatt wrote: > In article <9defnu$o7v@nntpa.cb.lucent.com>, eleeper@lucent.com wrote: > > >In article , > >Fred Rosenblatt wrote: > >> > >> I just heard about a Jewish school in New York that is dropping its > >> traditional Mother's Day activities because a child's two adoptive > >> fathers objected. So there are other alternatives. > > > >I feel obliged to point out this is incorrect and a correction was > >issued. The objections came from parents whose children had recently > >lost a mother through death or a father through abandonment. > [...]
1730 46 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6206] Re: Yeshiva Woes0_24_cstein1@rochester.rr.com29_Mon, 14 May 2001 02:46:03 EDT625_-
Alexandra J Schmidt wrote in message news:200105091308.JAA20847@gematria.crd.ge.com... > > Jennifer wrote: > > > I have been under the strong impression that encouraging or pressuring > someone to convert is highly frowned on. I know rabbis who will not serve as > part of a beit din if they think there has been undue coercion (including > conversion for the sake of marriage) applied. > For the record, I have been told by a number of individuals in my black hat community (including the rosh yeshiva) that a notable exception to this rule is when an intermarriage has already [...]
1777 42 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6207] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 14470_24_cstein1@rochester.rr.com29_Mon, 14 May 2001 07:18:56 EDT496_-
Fred Rosenblatt wrote in message news:fredr5-1105010954510001@mac99124170840.jpl.nasa.gov... > In article <989527628scjp-submit@shamash.org>, bdlerner@JTSA.EDU wrote: Before we take up arms > against an institution we should at least determine the facts, not > merely accept the accusation because it's what we would like to believe > about that particular organization. Maxine, the closest person to the > situation, herself admits that the facts are not clear. [...]
1820 96 53_[SCJ-PARENTING:6208] Celebrating M-Day in the schools6_Jfer P17_j3fer@hotmail.com29_Mon, 14 May 2001 09:28:49 EDT398_- Wanted to put in my 2cents'...!
As a divorced mother, whose ex-husband has irregular contact with his = two=20 kids, I was uncomfortable a few years ago when my kids started coming = home=20 talking about their Father's Day projects. I wondered why he got all = the=20 "nachas" that came from these amazing kids without putting in the work = that=20 the word "father" really entails. [...]
1917 86 43_[SCJ-PARENTING:6209] Shavuot Family Package0_20_bdlerner@JTSA.EDU=2029_Mon, 14 May 2001 09:30:52 EDT525_- Dear Friends,=20
Here are the Shavuot materials which are primarily intended for families in need of background information and - this time around - lots of stories for different ages and sophistication. There are also games and activities which can be for families, schools and youth groups.
I've emphasized in the selection background on the holiday of Shavuot and then on stories which can be read to (and even discussed with) children by a parent or grandparent, and then a few games and activities. [...]
2004 49 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6210] Re: Yeshiva Woes8_MrBob55816_mrbob558@aol.com29_Mon, 14 May 2001 09:31:43 EDT476_- Firstly, I have to agree with the people who find it strange that 5 = schools in a row willl allow a child to be beat up. Is is actual physical? Is it = verbal? It must be happening for some reason. If there is real abuse in the = Yeshiva, for any reason, obviously you go to the principal or Rosh Yeshiva and say- = it is physical and unprovoked- stop it or tell me you can't so I will take my = kid out and send him to a public school. If your chlid wants to stay in [...]
2054 54 57_[SCJ-PARENTING:6211] Re: Celebrating M-Day in the schools15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Tue, 15 May 2001 15:36:23 EDT453_- In article <989740263scjp-submit@shamash.org>, "Jfer P" wrote:
>Mother's Day and Father's Day teach our kids that both parents are >essential. Some children don't have two parents, and it's painful for >them when occasions like this role around to remind them. But the alternative >is NEVER reminding them that two-parent families are a good way to raise >kids-- in fact, that the Torah teaches us it's the *best* way. [...]
2109 62 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6212] Re: Yeshiva Woes15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Tue, 15 May 2001 20:52:17 EDT536_- In article , wrote:
>Alexandra J Schmidt wrote in message >news:200105091308.JAA20847@gematria.crd.ge.com... >> >> Jennifer wrote: >> >> >> I have been under the strong impression that encouraging or pressuring >> someone to convert is highly frowned on. I know rabbis who will not serve >> as part of a beit din if they think there has been undue coercion (including >> conversion for the sake of marriage) applied. [...]
2172 85 57_[SCJ-PARENTING:6214] Re: Celebrating M-Day in the schools15_Irene Bleiweiss16_IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov29_Wed, 16 May 2001 15:56:47 EDT434_- I'd like to add to this ongoing discussion, the thought that children need = not be made to feel excluded if they do not have a mother or father.
Many schools encourage children in one-parent households to bring a female = role model to Mothers Day celebrations or a male role model to Fathers Day = events. A grandmother, aunt, or close adult friends can partake in the = mother's day school activities with the child. [...]
2258 34 34_[SCJ-PARENTING:6215] Where I start13_Thomas Conway18_conway118@home.com29_Sun, 20 May 2001 22:56:22 EDT421_- Greetings to one and all! I kind of stumbeld onto this list, so I hope that it is acceptable that I am able read and learn. I am not Jewish, however my wife is. We want to raise our son in the faith of his Mom. For many years I seem to have been an observer of Judism. Slowly I see myself learning more and more and need a "Idiots Guide" so to speak LOL. So if at all possible I would like to learn and read more. [...]
2293 103 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:6216] Re: Where I start4_DRUM17_evad@voicenet.com29_Mon, 21 May 2001 11:33:03 EDT319_- Hi, Thomas.
Have you read The Jewish Book of Why? Also The Second Jewish Book of = Why. When I was contemplating conversion I found both of those to be extremely helpful.
Is your wife able to help you? If you belong to a synagogue, perhaps the rabbi can direct you to some adult education classes! [...]
2397 42 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:6217] Re: Where I start15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Mon, 21 May 2001 15:02:57 EDT617_- In article , "DRUM" wrote:
>Hi, Thomas. > >Have you read The Jewish Book of Why? Also The Second Jewish Book of = >Why. >When I was contemplating conversion I found both of those to be extremely >helpful.
I would also suggest Rabbi Donin's "To Be a Jew". I found the Books of Why a bit problematic. I felt that the questions posed were not so much those that an inquiring person would want to ask, as one that the author wanted to answer - especially about Orthodox Judaism. Upon further investigation I found that some of those answers [...]
2440 79 45_[SCJ-PARENTING:6218] Easier SHAVUOT Downloads0_17_bdlerner@JTSA.EDU29_Tue, 22 May 2001 08:28:41 EDT763_- Dear Hevreh,
Here are both Shavuot Materials and also the Tikkun texts downloads.
Chag Sameach
Dov
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2520 43 63_[SCJ-PARENTING:6219] Suggestions for kid friendly kosher resort12_Susan Marcus21_susan.marcus@home.com29_Fri, 25 May 2001 21:59:37 EDT529_- This may be a bit premature but we may be driving down to Washington DC from Ottawa Ontario (Through 1000 Islands NY)... We have a Bar Mitzvah the weekend between Yom Kippur and Sukkot. (not the ideal time)
We thought that perhaps on the way back we might treat ourselves to a resort for the first days of Sukkot. Wondering if anyone can suggest any resorts that are either in Pennsylvania or New York ... we would be looking for a Kosher kid friendly location. Contact information for the resort would be helpful. [...]
2564 42 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:6220] Re: Where I start14_Elisabeth Riba19_lis@osmond-riba.org29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:03:44 EDT449_- Thomas Conway wrote: > I kind of stumbeld onto this list, so I hope that it is acceptable that I am > able read and learn. I am not Jewish, however my wife is. We want to raise > our son in the faith of his Mom. For many years I seem to have been an > observer of Judism. Slowly I see myself learning more and more and need a > "Idiots Guide" so to speak LOL. > So if at all possible I would like to learn and read more. [...]
2607 70 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:6221] Re: Where I start4_DRUM17_evad@voicenet.com29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:04:18 EDT631_-
Fred Rosenblatt wrote in message news:fredr5-2105010901170001@mac99124170840.jpl.nasa.gov... > In article , "DRUM" > wrote: > > > I would also suggest Rabbi Donin's "To Be a Jew". I found the Books of > Why a bit problematic. I felt that the questions posed were not so > much those that an inquiring person would want to ask, as one that the > author wanted to answer - especially about Orthodox Judaism. Upon > further investigation I found that some of those answers were not exactly > what Orthodox Jews would answer about themselves. [...]
2678 46 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:6222] Re: Where I start5_kgold20_kgold@watson.ibm.com29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:05:06 EDT562_-
My favorite "getting started" book is "This is my G-d" by Herman Wouk. It covers both the philosophy and day-to-day observance and is easy to read.
The soc.culture.jewish FAQ is well written and gives a nice overview of many aspects of our philosophy and practice.
"Thomas Conway" writes: > Greetings to one and all! > I kind of stumbled onto this list, so I hope that it is acceptable > that I am able read and learn. I am not Jewish, however my wife > is. We want to raise our son in the faith of his Mom. For [...]
2725 74 45_[SCJ-PARENTING:6223] Re: summer camp already?11_Lisa Hertel13_lisa@thor.com29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:08:14 EDT287_- Khailer wrote: > > > 1. How old were your kids before sending them off to an overnight camp?
My kids are too young for camp. However, I went to overnight camp at 7 (which I don't reccommend). Most kids, depending on their social maturity, are ready after 3rd or 4th grade. [...]
2800 41 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:6224] Re: M-Day In School0_21_IREISS@samello.com.br29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:09:02 EDT523_- Hi!
Hashem often puts people in our path who effect our lives even if it is to do something as seemingly banal as picking a child up from school or baking cookies. I think that children who are missing a parent and even those who have an "in tact" family should be taught to recognize and be thankful to and for people who have "acted" in one form or another as a parent. Why can't teacher's start out asking what parents do for us, then add in an extra card or plant or whatever for a person who have filled [...]
2842 50 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6225] Re: Yeshiva Woes14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:16:07 EDT547_- I would like to speak as a Jewish Day School teacher (and soon to be Jewish Day School parent) in defense of Jewish Day Schools. It seems from some of the posts that I have seen recently that people believe that this kind of behavior is non uncommon and/or tolerated by the Jewish Day Schools. I can tell you, having taught in 3 different such schools that this is absolutely not the case. If something like what Maxine described happened in our school, you can bet that the parents would be called in and that the issue would be addressed [...]
2893 68 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6226] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144615_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:17:26 EDT653_- In article <989505318scjp-submit@shamash.org>, maury@turing.eecs.uic.edu wrote:
>I find it interesting that so many people are surprised about kids >getting beat up in Jewish Day schools. Frankly, I thought that it was >common knowlege that kids perceived as different get beat up or teased >or otherwise tormented in school, and reports from parents I know >indicate that it's worse in Jewish Day schools than in most places, >perhaps because of homogeneous populations and perhaps because of a >tacit acceptance by the faculty and staff (in the "boys will be >boys"). The only somewhat surprising things in this scenario are (1) >it's a [...]
2962 65 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:6227] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 144512_maxine in ri20_weedfam@hotmail.coma29_Fri, 25 May 2001 22:19:00 EDT423_- Fred Rosenblatt wrote:
> I'll never understand how a Jewish woman can marry a nonJew, send > her child to a school whose stated philosopy she disagrees with, > and then accuse them of driving the child from Judaism when they > won't accomodate her. I hear so many accusations of "driving > children away from Judaism", but in my opinion there is a much greater > threat in driving Judaism away from children. [...]
3028 180 54_[SCJ-PARENTING:6229] Re: Managing the bar mitzvah year13_Adelle Stavis30_Nospamcuthbertson@mediaone.net29_Tue, 29 May 2001 10:02:17 EDT477_- Having not yet gone through the Bar Mitzvah year, am afraid I can't be of = a lot of help. Just wanted to relate my cousin's experience. He is dyslexic and has ADD. He tried two or three different Haftarot before finding one = he could work with. I'm not sure of his precise issues, but know that he applied some of the skills learned in his IEP to the task of learning his portion. Because of the different tries, he didn't do a Bar Mitzvah = ceremony until he was 14. [...]
3209 159 54_[SCJ-PARENTING:6230] Re: Managing the bar mitzvah year13_Thomas Conway18_conway118@home.com29_Wed, 30 May 2001 08:13:33 EDT603_- My Brother Inlaw also had a tutor. Although his situation may be much different as that he has a handicap mentally. However the point is... there are people who can help.
"Adelle Stavis" wrote in message news:oarh5.6899$NH2.47700@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net... > Having not yet gone through the Bar Mitzvah year, am afraid I can't be of = > a > lot of help. Just wanted to relate my cousin's experience. He is dyslexic > and has ADD. He tried two or three different Haftarot before finding one = > he > could work with. I'm not sure of his precise issues, but [...]
3369 36 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:6231] Re: Yeshiva Woes13_Thomas Conway18_conway118@home.com29_Wed, 30 May 2001 09:17:15 EDT268_- I guess that what has happened in Maxine casse may be an isolated = incident. Kids at any age and at any school can be very harsh on other kids. I am = not saying that it should be tolerated, but its a factor that as parents we = all have to wiegh in at times. [...]
3406 41 82_[SCJ-PARENTING:6232] Any familiarity with Orthodox day camp in Bergen County , NJ?7_Nechama21_nospam@newsranger.com29_Wed, 30 May 2001 14:32:44 EDT431_- Hi, I haven't posted on here in a long time (due to lack of Usenet access). Does anyone on here have familiarity with Ma Tov Day Camp in Old Tappan, NJ? I am sending my 7 year old DD there and was wondering if anyone has had experience with this Orthodox day camp. We have some unique aspects to our situation, ie, I am newly observant, DD goes to public, not day, school, etc., and I'm hoping she will still do ok at camp. [...]
3448 63 26_[SCJ-PARENTING:6234] MaTov14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Thu, 31 May 2001 09:28:13 EDT464_-
>Subject: [SCJ-PARENTING:6232] Any familiarity with Orthodox day camp in Bergen County , NJ? >From: Nechama >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:32:44 EDT > >Hi, I haven't posted on here in a long time (due to lack of Usenet = access). >Does anyone on here have familiarity with Ma Tov Day Camp in Old Tappan, = NJ? >I >am sending my 7 year old DD there and was wondering if anyone has had >experience >with this Orthodox day camp.... [...]