1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/scj-parenting January 2001 2 39 49_[SCJ-PARENTING:5858] Test Message - Please Ignore15_Daniel P Faigin21_faigin@pacificnet.net28_Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:18:40 EST564_- Please ignore this message. We have been having some problems with the news side of the newsgroup, and this is a test to see if the news is now being posted correctly.

P.S.: Happy 2001.

Daniel

W/H: faigin@aero.org/faigin@pacificnet.net http://www.pacificnet.net/~faigin/ Mod., Mail.Liberal-Judaism (www.mljewish.org) Advisor, s.c.j.Parenting Maintainer, S.C.J FAQ/RL (www.scjfaq.org) Daddy to Erin Shoshana Webmaster, California Highways List (www.cahighways.org) Webmaven for Temple Beth Torah of Granada Hills (www.bethtorah-sfv.org) [...] 42 47 36_[SCJ-PARENTING:5859] CTTS, 27 months19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com28_Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:51:40 EST378_-

Well, we thought we'd start the millennium off right and go to morning minyan as a family (something that happens pretty rarely), taking advantage of the later minyan time on national holidays.

Dear Husband was explaining his tefillin to Gideon. Gideon thought about this for a minute, then began touching the windings around his Abba's arm, and counting: [...] 90 40 65_[SCJ-PARENTING:5860] Not telling the baby's name until the naming14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net28_Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:03:39 EST372_-

For those who follow the custom of not telling anyone the baby's name until the naming (i.e. Bris if a boy), I have a few "practical" questions.

Did you tell *anyone* at all? (your parents, baby's siblings, etc?) Did you use the name at all in private prior to the naming? How do you handle things like the hospital tags and birth certificate forms? [...] 131 57 69_[SCJ-PARENTING:5861] Re: Not telling the baby's name until the naming15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com28_Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:59:08 EST631_- In article , robynk@nautilus.shore.net (Robyn Kozierok) wrote:

>For those who follow the custom of not telling anyone the baby's name >until the naming (i.e. Bris if a boy), I have a few "practical" questions. > >Did you tell *anyone* at all? (your parents, baby's siblings, etc?)

It seems like some level of communication is necessary - you have to be able to discuss it openly with your husband if you're even going to choose a name. So it doesn't seem that farfetched to extend it to others who may have input on that decision, such as discussinng with the grandmothers [...] 189 38 36_[SCJ-PARENTING:5863] Passover Bris??14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net28_Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:30:08 EST396_- It has recently occurred to me that with a son due at the end of March, if he comes a little late, we could end up having to throw a pesachdich bris!

Any suggestions?

Also are there any special rules regarding scheduling the bris should the 8th day occur during Pesach. I seem to recall that the bris always takes precedence if it was a natural birth, but I'm not 100% sure. [...] 228 32 63_[SCJ-PARENTING:5864] Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net28_Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:30:56 EST483_- Ok, so it's early to be thinking about this, but I will be *very* pregnant at Purim this year, and was wondering if anyone had any ideas for a clever but very easy costume for myself. :)

Thanks, --Robyn

============================================================================== This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent authorities in those fields. [...] 261 77 36_[SCJ-PARENTING:5865] Naming the baby14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net28_Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:16:43 EST552_- Robyn,

First off... B'Shaa Tova! Now, to answer your questions. We did not let anyone know our daughter's name beforehand, nor are we telling people the names we have chosen for this child (we do not know the gender yet). What we did with Rachel Leah was that we filled it out on the birth certificate beforehand, and just asked that the papers be held until the naming on Saturday (she was born on Wednesday). There was no chance of us changing the name, as we named her after my maternal grandmother, but we heard that it is simpler in [...] 339 33 69_[SCJ-PARENTING:5867] Re: Not telling the baby's name until the naming8_JanetLDD16_janetldd@aol.com28_Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:31:43 EST505_- We waited telling anyone the baby's name until they were either named in synagogue or the bris. The only ones who knew the name was my husband and I. WE called our son buster brown until after his bris. That was a name i came up with when i changed his first bm at home. It was not planned. The hospital is used to this. All they ask is you call in the name afterwords. For my girls they both stayed in the hospital until after they were named. If they had left before they were named then i would [...] 373 53 34_[SCJ-PARENTING:5868] Robyn's posts14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net28_Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:33:02 EST363_- Wow! Reading Robyn's posts lately, about concern over a Pesach bris, Purim costume, baby names... it's like she's been listening in on the conversations between my husband and I. Then I see that our due dates are only days apart! It looks like Nissan will be a happy month on this mailing list. Robyn, if you come up with any costumes, please let me know. [...] 427 65 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5869] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?8_Tampamom20_tampamom@my-deja.com28_Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:35:00 EST406_- In article , robynk@nautilus.shore.net (Robyn Kozierok) wrote: > Ok, so it's early to be thinking about this, but I will be *very* pregnant > at Purim this year, and was wondering if anyone had any ideas for a clever > but very easy costume for myself. :) > > Thanks, > --Robyn > > ======================================================================== ====== [...] 493 74 69_[SCJ-PARENTING:5870] Re: Not telling the baby's name until the naming13_Adelle Stavis28_ppcuthbertsonqq@mediaone.net28_Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:13:14 EST587_-

"Robyn Kozierok" wrote in message news:qap56.2370$JG.299430@news.shore.net... > > For those who follow the custom of not telling anyone the baby's name > until the naming (i.e. Bris if a boy), I have a few "practical" questions. > > Did you tell *anyone* at all? (your parents, baby's siblings, etc?) > Did you use the name at all in private prior to the naming? > How do you handle things like the hospital tags and birth certificate > forms? > > We haven't followed this tradition in the past, but I have been > thinking a bit about doing it [...] 568 65 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:5872] Re: Robyn's posts11_Lisa Hertel13_lisa@thor.com28_Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:42:45 EST397_- Aliza Fischman wrote: > > Wow! Reading Robyn's posts lately, about concern over a Pesach bris, Purim > costume, baby names... it's like she's been listening in on the > conversations between my husband and I. Then I see that our due dates are > only days apart! It looks like Nissan will be a happy month on this > mailing list. Robyn, if you come up with any costumes, please let me know. [...] 634 60 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5873] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?11_Leah Adezio16_sladezio@nac.net28_Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:30:38 EST351_-

Robyn Kozierok wrote in message ... >Ok, so it's early to be thinking about this, but I will be *very* = pregnant >at Purim this year, and was wondering if anyone had any ideas for a = clever >but very easy costume for myself. :)

What popped into my warped mind was (and I'll see if I can explain how I = see this being done)... [...] 695 93 69_[SCJ-PARENTING:5874] Re: Not telling the baby's name until the naming6_Jfer P17_J3fer@hotmail.com28_Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:23:33 EST438_- Robyn wrote: > For those who follow the custom of not telling anyone the baby's name > until the naming...

Well, here -- humbly -- is my experience, for what it's worth. I was very happy with our decision, both times, not to reveal the names. It felt much more special that way, and the bris/baby naming is definitely more climactic that way. (with everybody straining to hear and then whispering the name around the shul!) [...] 789 61 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5875] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?29_Moss, William [CAR:VB11:EXCH]26_william@americasm01.nt.com28_Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:24:54 EST593_- In article , Robyn Kozierok wrote: >Ok, so it's early to be thinking about this, but I will be *very* pregnant >at Purim this year, and was wondering if anyone had any ideas for a clever >but very easy costume for myself. :)



Last year my wife and I went as a pregnant couple having twins: she wore her brother's sports jacket, and was the "man" carrying one twin, and I rigged up a table cloth as a skirt, and went as the woman carrying the other. My wife was 5 monthes pregnant at the time, so she didn't [...] 851 48 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5876] Re: Passover Bris??15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com28_Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:41:40 EST500_- In article , robynk@nautilus.shore.net (Robyn Kozierok) wrote:

>It has recently occurred to me that with a son due at the end of March, >if he comes a little late, we could end up having to throw a pesachdich >bris! > >Any suggestions? > >Also are there any special rules regarding scheduling the bris should the >8th day occur during Pesach. I seem to recall that the bris always takes >precedence if it was a natural birth, but I'm not 100% sure. [...] 900 53 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5877] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?13_Adelle Stavis28_ppcuthbertsonqq@mediaone.net28_Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:57:41 EST336_-

"Robyn Kozierok" wrote in message news:Mbp56.2371$JG.299430@news.shore.net... > Ok, so it's early to be thinking about this, but I will be *very* pregnant > at Purim this year, and was wondering if anyone had any ideas for a clever > but very easy costume for myself. :) > > Thanks, > --Robyn [...] 954 69 60_[SCJ-PARENTING:5879] kosher, shomer Shabbos survival school?15_Winchell Family16_ganeden@dnai.com28_Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:09:04 EST576_- B"H

When I was young (14), my sister (15) and I were given the opportunity to participate in the National Outdoor Leadership School's Adventure Expedition in the Wind River Range in Wyoming. I had a blast, and it was great for my self esteem. In any case, I would like to provide a similar opportunity for my children. I contacted NOLS about the possibility of a single gender, kosher, shomer Shabbos expedition, with morning services, of course, and daily learning, and they were ameniable to the idea. The problem is that I have only 1 1/2 more years until my [...] 1024 52 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5880] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net28_Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:31:22 EST570_- In article <3a581fcb_1@nntp2.nac.net>, Leah Adezio wrote:

>Get wide pinstriped fabric and make a basic muu-muu. Make it floor or = >ankle >length. Slit the front of the finished dress (?) up to about mid-thigh or >so. Pull back and tack the way you would tack back the front flaps of a = >pup >tent. Sew an insert of white fabric behind this, so the white fabric = >covers >the space you just opened up. > >Use markers and draw a couple people dressed in ancient Biblical clothing. >Toss in a lamb or goat peeking out from the 'side' of [...] 1077 40 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5881] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net28_Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:32:29 EST569_- In article <006101c079af$745466e0$8ba0a818@ne.mediaone.net>, Adelle Stavis wrote:

>Or use posterboard to create a Florida Ballot and go as a 'chad, >pregnant with possibilities' (that's how they got the phrase 'pregnant >chad').

This is too funny. I need to think a little more on the details, but I think it would be hilarious to go as a 'pregnant chad'. I thought about just dressing like a man with the name "Chad" on my shirt or something but figure the baby belly may just look like a beer belly in that case :) [...] 1118 54 35_[SCJ-PARENTING:5882] Premature boys14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net28_Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:35:27 EST475_- >From: "Jfer P" >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:23:33 EST



>P.S. Friends of mine had premature twin boys who were in the hospital for a >couple of months before they were big enough to come home, let alone have a >bris. This patient couple waited the whole time, and all they called them >was "Baby A" and "Baby B." It sounds a little cold, but the lack of names >couldn't get in the way of the special bond between parent and child. [...] 1173 42 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:5883] Re: Robyn's posts14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net28_Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:51:43 EST604_- In article <3A59DFB9.B09E087F@thor.com>, Lisa Hertel = wrote:

>Trust me, nobody expects you to do much--paper goods and store-bought >are perfectly acceptable for new parents. Also, unless you're lucky >enough to give birth on a weekend, you probably won't get as many people >as you think.

This will be our third bris, so we are old hands, just looking at a possible new "twist". But in our families, we do tend to "do much" for a bris, and it is pretty much expected. Paper products are OK, but home-cooked is "expected" -- of course our families pitch in and help [...] 1216 71 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5884] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?11_Leah Adezio16_sladezio@nac.net28_Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:21:32 EST613_-

Robyn Kozierok wrote in message ... >In article <006101c079af$745466e0$8ba0a818@ne.mediaone.net>, >Adelle Stavis wrote: > >>Or use posterboard to create a Florida Ballot and go as a 'chad, >>pregnant with possibilities' (that's how they got the phrase 'pregnant >>chad'). > >This is too funny. I need to think a little more on the details, but I >think it would be hilarious to go as a 'pregnant chad'. I thought >about just dressing like a man with the name "Chad" on my shirt or >something but figure the baby belly may just look like a beer belly in >that case :) [...] 1288 28 36_[SCJ-PARENTING:5885] bris on shabbat8_JanetLDD16_janetldd@aol.com29_Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:44:09 EST603_- A bris does not take place on shabbat if the mother had a c section. This is according to halacha

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>P.S. Friends of mine had premature twin boys who were in the hospital for a >couple of months before they were big enough to come home, let alone have a >bris. This patient couple waited the whole time, and all they called them >was "Baby A" and "Baby B." It sounds a little cold, but the lack of names >couldn't get in the way of the special bond between parent and child. [...] 1360 74 38_[SCJ-PARENTING:5887] Holiday Idea Bank20_Wendy & Larry Darrow17_ldarrow@flash.net29_Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:15:20 EST471_- This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hi,

You guys are so creative with your Purim Costume ideas! I saw this new = Holiday Idea Bank on www.judaicaforkids.com where you can post your = Purim Costume Ideas. You should copy your posts to that board so = everyone else can benefit from your great ideas! [...] 1435 40 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5888] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net29_Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:22:56 EST441_- In article <3a5bbb29$1_2@nntp2.nac.net>, Leah Adezio wrote: > >Leah >has no idea what YS will go as for Purim yet....

Matthew (then almost 4) went as an ear of corn last year. His idea! :) I took a yellow T-shirt and leggings and drew corn kernels all over them. As a last minute addition, we put him in his green sleeper for a husk. People really got a kick out of it. When he got warm, we "husked" him. :) [...] 1476 56 57_[SCJ-PARENTING:5889] Re: Passover Bris?? -- CLARIFICATION0_20_J3fer@hotmail.com=2029_Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:45:57 EST425_- I'd just like to clarify some misleading information which appeared in the course of this discussion.

Fred wrote, "since it is mandated to be on the eighth day, the bris always takes precedence...over shabbat...It doesn't matter whether the birth is natural or C-section"

(In reply to Robyn's question: "are there any special rules regarding scheduling the bris should the 8th day occur during Pesach?") [...] 1533 35 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5890] Re: bris on shabbat14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net29_Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:46:49 EST575_- In article <20010109203716.04492.00001927@ng-mi1.aol.com>, JanetLDD wrote: >A bris does not take place on shabbat if the mother had a c section. This = is >according to halacha

Same with a holy day, right?

--Robyn (mommy to Ryan 9/93 and Matthew 6/96 and ??? due 3/01)

============================================================================== This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent authorities in those fields. [...] 1569 89 64_[SCJ-PARENTING:5891] Re: kosher, shomer Shabbos survival school?14_Aaron Kuperman12_akup@loc.gov29_Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:15:24 EST607_- Are your boys involved in scouting? The kosher Boy Scout units sometimes have wilderness trips.



Winchell Family (ganeden@dnai.com) wrote: : B"H

: When I was young (14), my sister (15) and I were given the opportunity to : participate in the National Outdoor Leadership School's Adventure Expedition : in the Wind River Range in Wyoming. I had a blast, and it was great for my : self esteem. In any case, I would like to provide a similar opportunity for : my children. I contacted NOLS about the possibility of a single gender, : kosher, shomer Shabbos expedition, with morning [...] 1659 68 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5892] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?9_Jordi Sod21_jordi_sod@my-deja.com29_Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:14:38 EST552_- In article , robynk@nautilus.shore.net (Robyn Kozierok) wrote: > In article <3a5bbb29$1_2@nntp2.nac.net>, Leah Adezio wrote: > > > >Leah > >has no idea what YS will go as for Purim yet.... > > Matthew (then almost 4) went as an ear of corn last year. His idea! :) > I took a yellow T-shirt and leggings and drew corn kernels all over them. > As a last minute addition, we put him in his green sleeper for a husk. > People really got a kick out of it. When he got warm, we "husked" him. :) [...] 1728 93 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5893] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?11_Leah Adezio16_sladezio@nac.net29_Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:16:35 EST490_-

Robyn Kozierok wrote in message ... >In article <3a5bbb29$1_2@nntp2.nac.net>, Leah Adezio wrote: >> >>Leah >>has no idea what YS will go as for Purim yet.... > >Matthew (then almost 4) went as an ear of corn last year. His idea! :) >I took a yellow T-shirt and leggings and drew corn kernels all over them. >As a last minute addition, we put him in his green sleeper for a husk. >People really got a kick out of it. When he got warm, we "husked" him. = :) [...] 1822 72 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5895] Biblical themes prefered?14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:59:09 EST520_-

>A quick question for everyone: Do you prefer that your children use >Biblical themes for costumes, or doesn't it matter? I remember that my >mother strongly encouraged Biblical themes - especially dressing as >Purim-related figures, though that wasn't a requirement - and I didn't = >have >a problem with this as a child. And like I said above, I started doing = >this >with my boys, but came up with so much resistance, that I decided to let = >it >go....but did/does anyone else feel this way? > >Leah [...] 1895 54 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5897] Re: Biblical themes prefered?14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net29_Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:27:38 EST613_- In article <979429320scjp-submit@shamash.org>, Aliza Fischman wrote: > >I certainly like the idea, though I had never really thought about it >before. I certainly am all for it, however... that being said... I do >believe that if it not a Biblical character, then it should be a reputable, >admirable character. I will never forget when a family friend who is a >principal came home and said that one kid came in dressed up as the Central >Park rapist. I was sickened!!! Parents should be careful who they let >their children emulate, even if it's only in costume for one or [...] 1950 34 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5898] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?5_Debbi17_daffymom@home.com29_Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:26:13 EST369_- Several years ago, I went as a cell phone. There was a thingy in it that would make the phone ring when you pushed enter. During the service my son sat on my lap and I kept "ringing". The Rabbi could not figure out who was so rude as to have their phone on until after the service when I had all the children in the congregation surrounding me and "ringing" me. [...] 1985 61 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5899] Re: Passover Bris??14_Aaron Kuperman12_akup@loc.gov29_Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:26:46 EST469_-

You ned lots of MATZAH for the seudah if the Bris comes out on Pesach. You also needs non-hametz nosh for the Shalom Zachur. Halachically it isn't a big deal (not radically different than a Shabbos bris), but the food is a nuisance.



Robyn Kozierok (robynk@nautilus.shore.net) wrote: : It has recently occurred to me that with a son due at the end of March, : if he comes a little late, we could end up having to throw a pesachdich : bris! [...] 2047 119 64_[SCJ-PARENTING:5900] Re: kosher, shomer Shabbos survival school?15_Winchell Family16_ganeden@dnai.com29_Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:31:29 EST640_-

Aaron Kuperman wrote in message news:93krns$4ijc$1@rs7.loc.gov... > Are your boys involved in scouting? The kosher Boy Scout units sometimes > have wilderness trips.

B"H

No, they are not involved with scouting. And frankly, I was quite involved in scouting when I was growing up, and I was not in the least prepared for the NOLS experience. It makes scouting look like a joke. What I am talking about is a very serious, month + long expedition, with the only differences from NOLS, or perhaps Outward Bound, being those things which would make it compatible with Judaism-- kosher food, davening, [...] 2167 52 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5902] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 137314_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:40:10 EST311_-

>While I would certainly never let my kid dress up as the Central Park >rapist, I did allow my son to dress up as Haman for several years >running, and of course that is not someone I'd like him to emulate >either!

True, but at least it has something to do with Purim. That is why I said, [...] 2220 153 64_[SCJ-PARENTING:5903] Re: kosher, shomer Shabbos survival school?14_Aaron Kuperman12_akup@loc.gov29_Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:28:52 EST401_-

There are kosher "Venture" scout units and there are kosher wildnerness trips. While this is true of most scout units in general, the Jewish units (and especially the kosher ones) are willing to let someone from another unit come along. Scouting lets you choose what to do. My sons tend to prefer crafts and sciences. Other boys prefer wilderness survival. --Aaron Kuperman (Baltimore) [...] 2374 62 67_[SCJ-PARENTING:5904] Re: Easy Purim costumes for very pregnant mom?10_I. Pour-El18_pourel@iastate.edu29_Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:35:23 EST325_-

Go as a (well-stuffed) hamantaschen. Cut 2 large triangles of beige felt. Cut off corner tips. Cut a smaller triangle with sides that curve inward for the filling and glue or sew on. Glue or sew on straps and you're done. My son (not pregnant) has worn his for 3 years, by choice. It always gets rave reviews. [...] 2437 47 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5905] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 137314_Betsy Schwartz16_betsys@shore.net29_Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:30:07 EST446_- Aliza Fischman writes: > Biblical characters, though sometimes evil, always have something that we > can learn from them or the story they were involved in. Otherwise they > wouldn't be in the Torah.

Thanks, I was having trouble putting this into words!

A Purim party needs a Haman or two, as long as they are prepared for a bit of friendly hassling. The purim play should teach the lesson OK. [...] 2485 45 36_[SCJ-PARENTING:5906] naming children0_31_erinsfb@credit.erin.utoronto.ca29_Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:44:18 EST445_-

Can male first cousins be named after the same relative and have the same hebrew name??

If I wanted to name a little girl after her grandfather, Yaacov, what could her Hebrew name be? Or a little boy named for Rachel, what could his name be?

At my son's bris the Mohel helped us pick his hebrew name. He is named for Sarah but his hebrew name is Yisrael and I don't quite remember how the Mohel made the connection. [...] 2531 66 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5907] Re: naming children4_DRUM17_evad@voicenet.com29_Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:06:51 EST610_-

wrote in message news:94238a$2dj$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > Can male first cousins be named after the same relative and have the > same hebrew name??



I think that would be all right -- they could be named for the same relative but have different English names. Michael and Martin for Morris, or something, but both Hebrew names might be Moshe. If yours is the first one born you don't have much say, but if your son is the one who's second...it might be more sensitive to the other parents and fair to the boys to give them different names. Lots of [...] 2598 80 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5908] Re: naming children15_Robin Netherton19_robin@ms1.dgsys.com29_Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:03:51 EST603_- erinsfb@credit.erin.utoronto.ca wrote:

> If I wanted to name a little girl after her grandfather, Yaacov, what > could her Hebrew name be? Or a little boy named for Rachel, what could > his name be?

We had exactly this situation (cross-gender naming) a few years ago, and I did a lot of research at the time. I was pleased at the wide variety of options that are considered acceptable, in at least some branches and traditions within Judaism. Certain families/traditions/movements may have more restrictive rules, of course, so your rabbi can provide the best advice for your case. [...] 2679 57 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5909] Re: naming children14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net29_Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:03:50 EST613_- In article <94238a$2dj$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, wrote: > >Can male first cousins be named after the same relative and have the >same hebrew name??

I don't think there is any "rule" against it, but you might want to check with the parents of the other child (assuming he is already born/named) to see how they feel about it. My son and his first cousin are named after the same relative, but they have different Hebrew names (they are named after a woman with a very feminine Yiddish name (Raizel) for which there is no obvious male equivalent, and we each made different [...] 2737 55 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5912] Re: Biblical themes prefered?15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:18:10 EST651_- In article <979429320scjp-submit@shamash.org>, Aliza Fischman wrote:

>>A quick question for everyone: Do you prefer that your children use >>Biblical themes for costumes, or doesn't it matter? I remember that my >>mother strongly encouraged Biblical themes - especially dressing as >>Purim-related figures, though that wasn't a requirement - and I didn't = >>have >>a problem with this as a child. And like I said above, I started doing = >>this >>with my boys, but came up with so much resistance, that I decided to let = >>it >>go....but did/does anyone else feel this way? >> >>Leah > >I certainly like [...] 2793 54 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5913] Re: naming children7_stevenw19_stevenw@fchoice.com29_Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:42:30 EST495_-

> At my son's bris the Mohel helped us pick his hebrew name. He is named > for Sarah but his hebrew name is Yisrael and I don't quite remember how > the Mohel made the connection. > > Thanks for any help you can provide.

The Hebrew for Sarah is Sin, Resh, Hey. The Hebrew for Yisrael is Yod, Sin, Resh, Aleph, Lamed. The Hey in Sarah is silent. If you transpose the Hey for the other silent letter Aleph and add a Yod to the begining and Lamed to the end, you get Yisrael. [...] 2848 75 42_[SCJ-PARENTING:5914] only in a kosher home19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com29_Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:52:03 EST307_-

The other week DH went shopping, gave in to his yetzer ha-ra, bought some Entenmann's (dairy) donuts, and left them on the kitchen table. Some time later we noticed that Gideon was not in the living room with us, and had been quiet for a sufficiently long time span to warrant investigation. [...] 2924 63 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5915] Re: naming children14_Elisabeth Riba19_lis@osmond-riba.org29_Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:56:37 EST366_- erinsfb@credit.ern.utoronto.ca wrote: > Can male first cousins be named after the same relative and have the > same hebrew name??

I don't see why not. My father and several of his relatives in the same generation are all named after the same person. Mind you, because he shares this first name with a cousin, my father goes by his middle name instead. [...] 2988 77 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5916] Re: only in a kosher home15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:15:53 EST694_- In article <200101221829.NAA06514@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J Schmidt wrote:



> >And then, "Dear, you can't have dinner until you're done with the donut."

That's like the concept of kiddush on Shabbos morning - "Don't put any food in your stomach until you've had some alcohol." Jews definitely move in a different direction.



>I heard myself say this, and laughed/winced internally. > >(Finally I proposed that we share it--nobly throwing myself in the path >of the oncoming donut!--and we moved on to a proper meal.) > >My mother, who does not keep kosher or particularly agree with the concept, >kept a straight [...] 3066 95 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5917] Re: Naming children14_Aliza Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:00:30 EST608_- Shari,

You asked: >Can male first cousins be named after the same relative and have the >same hebrew name??

My husband's name is Aharon Aryeh Fischman (called Aharon). His cousins are Aharon Aryeh Gottesman (also called Aharon), Chaim Aharon Aryeh Gottesman (called Chaim) and Aharon Aryeh Gottesman (called Ari). As you can tell, they were all named for the same man, their esteemed grandfather Rav Aharon Aryeh Gottesman (the original). [As a side point, those of you in the New Jersey area may know the grandfather's name as the shul Beth Aaron in Teaneck is named for him.] There is [...] 3162 112 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5920] Re: Biblical themes prefered?6_Jfer P17_j3fer@hotmail.com29_Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:50:33 EST413_- Aliza wrote:

>I certainly like the idea, though I had never really thought about it >before. I certainly am all for it, however... that being said... I do >believe that if it not a Biblical character, then it should be a = reputable, >admirable character. I will never forget when a family friend who is a >principal came home and said that one kid came in dressed up as the = Central >Park rapist. [...] 3275 37 52_[SCJ-PARENTING:5924] Administrivia: Ignore this Post15_Daniel P Faigin21_faigin@pacificnet.net29_Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:33:46 EST604_- [Moderator's Note: Please ignore this post. One of our news injection sites is adding a new server, and we need to inject a test post to verify that the server is working properly. We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion]



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Any nursing (or formerly-nursing) mothers out there who know where I can find nursing shirts that have long sleeves and high (covering the collarbone--this is the challenging part) necklines?

My favorite source for nursing clothes, Motherwear, has a few such items, mostly in the winter line of clothing they are closing out. However, quite a few of them are in really heavy fabrics that are not appropriate for warmer weather. [...] 3475 49 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5929] Re: only in a kosher home0_21_IREISS@samello.com.br29_Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:22:23 EST441_-

Alessandra wrote:

And of course we adults don't make a big deal about it because we're used to it, and we just provide food for the little ones. But as they start choosing their own foods, it becomes an issue. All I can think of is discussing briefly what category foods are in as we serve them. ("Would you like some yogurt? Yogurt is dairy. And you can have some milk in your dairy cup to go with the dairy yogurt.") [...] 3525 34 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5930] Re: Saying Good-bye0_21_IREISS@samello.com.br29_Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:23:28 EST645_- Hi!

Does anyone have any ideas for how a young child can say good bye without going to the cemetary?

Thank you, Ilene



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> My favorite source for nursing clothes, Motherwear, has a few such > items, mostly in the winter line of clothing they are closing out. =20 > However, quite a few of them are in really heavy fabrics that > are not appropriate for warmer weather. =20 [...] 3636 71 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5934] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 13710_22_EmBraceable@aol.com=2029_Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:25:11 EST557_-

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Leah- I too like related themes! Last year my youngest was ASHuarus, my 5 = yr=20 old was Gengar gragar ( A NEW AND OFTEN SECret transformation) my husband = was=20 PikaJEW complete with kippah and tallis and I was a polke mom! One year = we=20 were Hay man (overalls and hay) heymon (with dread lock wig) and HAYMAN = (=20 transformed a pair of superman pjs) our youngest was a hamentasen! Good = luck=20 with ideas! [...] 3708 68 58_[SCJ-PARENTING:5935] Re: source for tzniut nursing shirts?4_DRUM17_evad@voicenet.com29_Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:39:11 EST618_-

Alexandra J Schmidt wrote in message news:200101231906.OAA07537@gematria.crd.ge.com... > > Any nursing (or formerly-nursing) mothers out there who know > where I can find nursing shirts that have long sleeves and > high (covering the collarbone--this is the challenging part) > necklines? > > My favorite source for nursing clothes, Motherwear, has a few such > items, mostly in the winter line of clothing they are closing out. > However, quite a few of them are in really heavy fabrics that > are not appropriate for warmer weather. > > Any other ideas? > > . . .A. > > [...] 3777 45 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5936] Re: Learn Hebrew=204_DRUM17_evad@voicenet.com29_Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:41:21 EST365_-

wrote in message news:66.b8ca996.27a206f4@aol.com... > Does anyone have experience with any of the Jewish/Hebrew educational=20 > computer programs available? Any recommendations? My kids ages range = > from=20 > 2 to 8. Thanks. > Caryn > When I first read your message I thought you said your kids ranged from 20 to 8. Wow! LOL [...] 3823 55 42_[SCJ-PARENTING:5937] Re: Learn Hebrew=3D202_JB19_dor_l_dor@radix.net29_Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:29:12 EST639_- In article <66.b8ca996.27a206f4@aol.com>, Chana34@aol.com=3D20 wrote:

> Does anyone have experience with any of the Jewish/Hebrew educational=3D2= 0 > computer programs available? Any recommendations? My kids ages range = =3D > from=3D20 > 2 to 8. Thanks. > Caryn >=20 Caryn - don't want to totally toot my own horn, but check out Dor L'Dor software at www.DorLDor.com. We have materials that teach the alefbet, blessings and prayers. Also have other products as well. The software was originally developed for one of my students with special needs - now used across the board. I bring computers into the classrom once every [...] 3879 55 58_[SCJ-PARENTING:5938] Re: source for tzniut nursing shirts?11_Leah Adezio16_sladezio@nac.net29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:26:14 EST559_-

Alexandra J Schmidt wrote in message <200101231906.OAA07537@gematria.crd.ge.com>... > >Any nursing (or formerly-nursing) mothers out there who know >where I can find nursing shirts that have long sleeves and >high (covering the collarbone--this is the challenging part) >necklines? > >My favorite source for nursing clothes, Motherwear, has a few such >items, mostly in the winter line of clothing they are closing out. >However, quite a few of them are in really heavy fabrics that >are not appropriate for warmer weather. > >Any other ideas? [...] 3935 100 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5939] Re: naming children8_Tampamom20_tampamom@my-deja.com29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:26:48 EST344_- In article <94238a$2dj$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, erinsfb@credit.erin.utoronto.ca wrote: > > Can male first cousins be named after the same relative and have the > same hebrew name?? > > If I wanted to name a little girl after her grandfather, Yaacov, what > could her Hebrew name be? Or a little boy named for Rachel, what could > his name be? [...] 4036 45 58_[SCJ-PARENTING:5940] Re: source for tzniut nursing shirts?14_Betsy Schwartz16_betsys@shore.net29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:27:37 EST683_- take a look at www.ababeinarms.com . These two places: http://www.decentexposures.com/shirt.shtml and http://www.littlekoala.com/clothing.html have assorted necklines including turtlenecks. Also www.mothersplace.com. (there's another one I'm blanking on, a catalog store that sells really nice organic kid's clothing and toys...)

These sorts of shirts are all really expensive. I haven't ordered from these places. What *I* used to do was to take a regular Tshirt (with a high collar) in a large size that was loose, and wear it under a long-sleeved button down shirt. The whole arrangement could be pushed and pulled around to allow access while using a few layers of [...] 4082 84 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5941] Re: only in a kosher home11_Lisa Hertel13_lisa@thor.com29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:29:13 EST417_- Fred Rosenblatt wrote: > > In article <200101221829.NAA06514@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J > Schmidt wrote: > > > > >A more thoughtful question is, "how does one teach a young child about > >kashrut?"

We have a kosher home, but eat treif out (what we jokingly refer to as "Conservative Kosher," although we're Reform). This creates all sorts of interesting conflicts. [...] 4167 76 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5942] RE: only in a kosher home14_Daniel Mandell19_dmandell@truman.edu29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:30:21 EST534_- Our six year-old is very concerned about kashrut: so much so that when he doesn't want to eat something he tries persuading us that it looks tref. "Daddy, I couldn't eat it because I thought those red things were shrimp [as I recall, small pieces of tomatoes in a soup]!" And of course he won't take our solemn oath to the contrary. So he has easily picked up on how we observe kashrut and even made it his own. (On the other hand, he's also tried arguing that eating ice cream with a chicken dinner is somehow OK, although he [...] 4244 62 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5943] Re: only in a kosher home15_Hillary Israeli19_hillary@hillary.net29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:37:39 EST499_- In <3A6EF57A.B30FAA2D@thor.com>, Lisa Hertel wrote:

*Fred Rosenblatt wrote: *> *> In article <200101221829.NAA06514@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J *> Schmidt wrote: *> > > *> >A more thoughtful question is, "how does one teach a young child about *> >kashrut?" * *We have a kosher home, but eat treif out (what we jokingly refer to as *"Conservative Kosher," although we're Reform). This creates all sorts of *interesting conflicts. * [...] 4307 34 35_[SCJ-PARENTING:5945] Nursing shirts0_18_Alona12@aol.com=2029_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:01:03 EST543_- As a mother of twins, I found that the most modest solution was to = continue=20 wearing maternity shirts and nurse the kids under the shirt. With one = baby,=20 this would be even easier. This expands the available wardrobe considerabl= y.=20

Antonia Bookbinder

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In article , hillary@hillary.net (Hillary Israeli) wrote:

>In <3A6EF57A.B30FAA2D@thor.com>, >Lisa Hertel wrote: > >*Fred Rosenblatt wrote: >*> >*> In article <200101221829.NAA06514@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J >*> Schmidt wrote: >*> > > >*> >A more thoughtful question is, "how does one teach a young child about >*> >kashrut?" >* >*We have a kosher home, but eat treif out (what we jokingly [...] 4423 46 58_[SCJ-PARENTING:5947] Re: source for tzniut nursing shirts?15_Irene Bleiweiss16_IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:47:25 EST530_- While I don't have a source for ready-made tsnius summer nursing shirts, I = know of a solution that is simpler than sewing a whole shirt, looks = pretty, and feels/looks more like a regular shirt.

Buy a lightweight long sleeve t-shirt in a solid color. Cut a verticle = slit in the shirt over each breast area. Buy a piece of fabric in a print = pattern that goes well with the color of the shirt. Attach a large = rectangle of the print fabric to the front of the shirt extending well = past the cuts (attach only [...] 4470 45 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5948] Re: naming children14_Robyn Kozierok25_robynk@nautilus.shore.net29_Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:10:29 EST535_- In article <94pr7k$rob$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Tampamom wrote: > >Conversely, my son's middle name is in memory of his great-grandmother >Rose (Raizel). We used Richon, again because of the letter - and it >means 1st son, which he was :-)

We named our 1st son after a Rose (Raizel) as well, and ended up using Reuven, which means "behold, a son". (Now we need to find a name that means, "Another son!?!") :) My nephew named after the same Rose has the Hebrew name Razael but I don't know what it means. [...] 4516 79 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5949] Re: only in a kosher home13_Judith Gordon18_judith011@home.com29_Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:19:53 EST554_- Fred Rosenblatt wrote:

> You have every reason to be confused. I know that there are many people > who observe kashrut at the level with which they are comfortable, but it > seems to me that that level of inconsistency could only lead to discomfort. > > As for your question, it seems obvious, to me at least,that stricter > observance is better. That leads to elimination of conflict, while no > observance leads to supression of conflict (at least in a case like > your in-laws who had been making some attempt). I don't think that the > [...] 4596 72 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5950] Re: only in a kosher home12_Beth Katcher17_b.katcher@rcn.com29_Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:19:24 EST511_- > SIL > was still upset that MIL would even have considered using the > "wrong" knife. I found the whole thing confusing, and I wonder if this > sort of conflict is best prevented by having stricter observance in > the first place, or none at all...

All of the shades of gray re how Jews keep kashrut leads to very confusing situations. I grew up in a kosher home. Obviously I don't remember how my parents taught me at the age of 2 or 3, but I can recall being 8 or 9 and quizzing the parents of [...] 4669 34 35_[SCJ-PARENTING:5951] gifts at Bris?8_Splanche16_splanche@aol.com29_Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:01:58 EST476_- Ok-- a really sillly question: We are going to a bris this weekend for my DH's much more observant cousin's new baby. The bris will be at Chabad. Are there any special rules that I should be thinking of that would make a present that would be appropriate at a reform bris be inappropriate at an orthodox one? I have the vague recollection of fabric rules(not mixing), but no recollection of what they apply to.. I just don't want to make any stupid mistakes. - Blanche [...] 4704 35 51_[SCJ-PARENTING:5952] Gifts for Bar and Bat Mitzvah?4_DRUM17_evad@voicenet.com29_Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:41:15 EST681_- Got one of each coming up -- Orthodox family. What's a good gift? An appropriate gift?

I've never been to any Bar/Bat Mitzvah before.

Thanks

Megan



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>Ok-- a really sillly question: >We are going to a bris this weekend for my DH's much more observant = cousin's >new baby. The bris will be at Chabad. Are there any special rules that I >should be thinking of that would make a present that would be appropriate = at a >reform bris be inappropriate at an orthodox one? I have the vague = recollection >of fabric rules(not mixing), but no recollection of what they apply = to..=20 >I just don't want to make any stupid mistakes. [...] 4834 34 55_[SCJ-PARENTING:5955] Re: Gifts for Bar and Bat Mitzvah?12_Beth Katcher17_b.katcher@rcn.com29_Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:24:55 EST543_- > Got one of each coming up -- Orthodox family. What's a good gift? An > appropriate gift?

Books, luggage, jewelry, electronics, cash . . . I usually opt for something of some permanence, hopefully tied to a strong interest of the bar/bat mitzvah.

-- Beth

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