1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/scj-parenting March 2000 2 32 49_[SCJ-PARENTING:5000] Plea: Breaved parents group?0_18_Awaskow@aol.com=2028_Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:31:23 EST339_- I have just received the following letter and plea. Can anyone suggest = a=20 place? --- Thanks, Arthur=20 **** I have been looking for two years now since my 14 year old daughter was=20 killed by an out of control vehicle for an on-line Jewish bereaved = parents=20 group. I cannot find any, are there any out there in cyberspace? [...] 35 38 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5001] Re: b'nai mitzvah preparation14_Robyn Kozierok23_robynk@shell3.shore.net28_Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:37:37 EST562_- In article <38B56F83.5B29555C@home.com>, Marjorie Peskin wrote:

>A child becomes b'nai mitzvah >at 12/13 (depending upon gender) once they recite an aliyah. No aliyah, >no b'nai mitzvah.

Then does a girl become Bat Mitzvah at all in Orthodox Judaism? If not, at what point does she take on the requirements of a Jewish woman? I know that the Bat Mitzvah ceremony is an invention of Liberal Judaism, but surely traditional Judasim has some definition of when a Jewish girl becomes a woman, I'm just not sure what it is! [...] 74 37 58_[SCJ-PARENTING:5002] Re: Appropriate gift for Bas Mitzvah?14_Robyn Kozierok23_robynk@shell3.shore.net28_Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:29:39 EST471_- In article <38B39FF4.77372C13@home.com>, Marjorie Peskin wrote:

>I prefer a gift chosen with some personal thought. I >think kids probably prefer money. :-)

At the time, I preferred the gifts, as all the money but $200 went straight into the college fund. I sure appreciated that college fund when the time came, but at the time of my Bat Mitzvah, I preferred the gifts I could use immediately, including several fancy pens. :) [...] 112 44 68_[SCJ-PARENTING:5003] Passover Seder ideas needed for mixed-age group14_Robyn Kozierok23_robynk@shell3.shore.net28_Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:37:33 EST352_- I am planning the first Passover seder for our extended family and am looking for some ideas. The group contains a tough mix of ages:

My boys, 3.5 and 6.5 years old, and my husband and myself My cousins 14 (male) and 18 (female), and their parents My two single younger brothers 23 and 30 yrs old My parents, and my maternal grandparents [...] 157 31 53_[SCJ-PARENTING:5004] Re: Plea: Breaved parents group?8_VeraAloe16_veraaloe@aol.com28_Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:38:09 EST554_- Since you are on AOL, you can access the AOL Jewish Community website (Keyword: Jewish Community). Go to Bulletin Boards, then Family and Personal Matters). They have a b-board called: Dealing with the Death of an Infant or Child.

I hope this helps.

VeraAloe@aol.com

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Kathe

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Brian liked electronic gadgets - the Royal pocket planner and combination flashlight/radio/siren also went over well. But so did the needlepoint tallit bag (grandma makes one for every grandchild; Brian's is magnificent), the shofar, and the Havdalah set :-) [...] 255 61 72_[SCJ-PARENTING:5007] Re: Passover Seder ideas needed for mixed-age group5_Karla16_karla@ntcorp.com28_Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:31:09 EST530_- x-no-archive: yes

Robyn Kozierok wrote:

> I am planning the first Passover seder for our extended family and am > looking for some ideas. The group contains a tough mix of ages:

Last year I was trying to think about how to present things so that my Unitarian stepchildren would be able to follow what was happening as well. When you have a 5, 7, 9 and 11 year old at the table, it gets tough. Plus my 18 yr old niece and her mom (my sister) were coming as well and it was the first time either of them [...] 317 114 72_[SCJ-PARENTING:5008] Re: Passover Seder ideas needed for mixed-age group17_Lynne Fitzsimmons21_lynnef@exgate.tek.com28_Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:48:23 EST377_- Robin asks:

>I am planning the first Passover seder for our extended family and am >looking for some ideas. The group contains a tough mix of ages:

>My boys, 3.5 and 6.5 years old, and my husband and myself >My cousins 14 (male) and 18 (female), and their parents >My two single younger brothers 23 and 30 yrs old >My parents, and my maternal grandparents [...] 432 33 26_[SCJ-PARENTING:5010] Purim15_Marjorie Peskin19_animzmirot@home.com28_Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:47:49 EST258_- It's getting close! So, what are you going to be this year? Any good ideas for 7 YO world weary boys who just can't deign to actually be excited about Purim anymore?

And what kind of hamentaschen have you planned (or executed) for this year?

466 150 102_[SCJ-PARENTING:5011] Re: SCJ-PARENTING digest 1142 Re: Passover Seder ideas needed for mixed-age group17_Aliza N. Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net28_Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:39:23 EST416_- One fun custom that we have in my family is that when we get to Chad Gadya (One Goat) we all make ALL of the animal noises -- not just the first time they are mentioned--- EVERY time. It is so much fun. Lately we've incorporated that when we get up to water we sometimes actually dip our fingertips in our water glasses and spritz the person next to us. It gets the kids involved and we all have a good time. [...] 617 55 26_[SCJ-PARENTING:5012] Purim19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com28_Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:42:30 EST504_-

> And what kind of hamentaschen have you planned (or executed) for this > year?

We like the 'Solo' brand fillings--apricot and lekvar (prune-plum or plain prune). I never did develop a taste for the poppy-seed ones. The other fruit-flavored commercial fillings have, to me, a chemical aftertaste that I do not care for. Commercial jams, even good quality ones, tend to lack enough body. We do cookie-dough hamantaschen, not yeasted ones. I have strong feelings on these matters. :) [...] 673 58 66_[SCJ-PARENTING:5013] Pesach with toddlers and babies! Suggestions?19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com28_Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:32:03 EST560_-

Lynne's posting on Pesach with a mix of older-kid ages was so good, I thought I'd go back to the well here and ask for suggestions for Pesach with a couple of toddlers between 18 months and 2 years.

This will be our first Pesach with a fully ambulatory Gideon. We will be joined by at least one other toddler, almost 2 years, and a 6-month old. After Shabbat dinner this past week (lots of fun, but it was hard to get more than three consecutive sentences of conversation to anyone), I am wondering how to streamline Pesach. (Our sedarim [...] 732 40 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5014] Ack I need an idea!5_Karla16_karla@ntcorp.com28_Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:32:06 EST293_- Help!

My younger boy has just decided he wants to be Mordechai this year for Purim and I have no idea how to dress him. The boys have been Hamentaschen, various animals, the director of the Hebrew school, etc. Never have they actually wanted to be a character from the Megillah. [...] 773 94 44_[SCJ-PARENTING:5015] Re: Ack I need an idea!16_Benjamin Hurwitz20_hurwitz@blaze.net.au28_Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:31:16 EST628_- Reply-To: hurwitz@blaze.net.au=20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1.wire.net.au 952373456 24581 203.36.3.171 (6 Mar 2000 = 20:10:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1.wire.net.au=20 X-Accept-Language: en

Benjamin Hurwitz wrote:

> Karla wrote: > > > Help! > > > > My younger boy has just decided he wants to be Mordechai this year for > > Purim and I have no idea how to dress him. The boys have been > > Hamentaschen, various animals, the director of the Hebrew school, etc. > > Never have they actually wanted to be a character from the Megillah. > > > > Any ideas or suggestions?????? > > We [...] 868 49 44_[SCJ-PARENTING:5017] Re: Ack I need an idea!15_Marjorie Peskin19_animzmirot@home.com28_Tue, 7 Mar 2000 00:47:02 EST325_- Oh, it isn't all that hard. :-) YOu need the fake beard, which is all important. You can get those at the joke shop in Waltham on Moody St. You need some kind of a fancy turban-type hat thingy, similar to the Jafar hat in Aladdin, and then a lovely shiney bathrobe long to the ground. Maybe some scarves for the belt. [...] 918 41 44_[SCJ-PARENTING:5020] be excited about Purim?14_max_weisenfeld29_Max_Weisenfeld@compuserve.com28_Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:43:19 EST588_- Message text written by Marjorie =3D

Peskin >Any good ideas for 7 YO world =3D

weary boys who just can't deign =3D

to actually be excited about Purim =3D

anymore? <

How about a puffy yellow costume =3D

with a big blue Mogen David? Pikajew!

Max

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When the kids began to get old enough to pay attention (2+), I went out and got copies of several Hagadot. I learned what of the seder is really required and what is embellishment, and looked at the Mitzvot myself and with my Rabbi to see if we could re-write it without butchering it. The first thing I found was that we could not use any of the Children's Hagadot without leaving the adults unsatisfied. So I combined (by photocopying -- [...] 1029 36 50_[SCJ-PARENTING:5022] Re: b'nai mitzvah preparation10_JJCalabres18_jjcalabres@aol.com28_Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:35:13 EST528_- >>A child becomes b'nai mitzvah >>at 12/13 (depending upon gender) once they recite an aliyah. No aliyah, >>no b'nai mitzvah. > >Then does a girl become Bat Mitzvah at all in Orthodox Judaism?

I was always taught (Orthodox) that a girl is Bat Mitzvah at the age of 12 years and one day; a boy at 13 years and 1 day. That is, they are held accountable for the mitzvot upon achievement of that age. The Aliyah does make one a bar mitzvah; just the age. There is no necessity for a boy to have an Aliyah in order for [...] 1066 31 44_[SCJ-PARENTING:5025] Blowing my own horn...!6_Jfer P24_Jennifer@toronto.vr1.com28_Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:56:41 EST491_- A (very) short article of mine which appeared recently in Jewish Action, the magazine of the O-U (Winter 5760 issue), is now available online.

"Dear Morah" http://www.ou.org/publications/ja/default.htm

J

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Dear Friends,

Last summer, we all shared a moment of horror as a gunman entered the unsecured grounds of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, California, and wounded a number of innocent summer campers. For one New Jersey mom, Donna Dees-Thomases, that moment was enough to move her from concern to action, and she initiated what has become a national grassroots movement of moms [...] 1154 31 33_[SCJ-PARENTING:5028] Hebrew names14_Marny Helfrich18_mhelfrich@home.com29_Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:03:09 EST672_- Does anyone know of any websites that list Hebrew baby names? A friend of mine is converting to Judaism and needs to chose a name.

Thanks!

Marny



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ACKs are handled by an autoresponder. Munged From:/Reply-To: means no ACKs. Use "X-Ack-To: address" to redirect ACKs; it won't show up in the final post. Use "X-Ack-To: none" to suppress Acks. "X-Ack-To:" goes on a line by itself. 1186 34 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:5030] Re: Hebrew names4_CHSW14_chsw@erols.com29_Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:52:36 EST716_- Dear Marny,

I do not know of any websites, but there are lots of books of Hebrew baby names. Moreover, your friend may simply want to Hebraize his (or her) name.

Good luck to you both.

"Marny Helfrich" wrote in message news:OKyy4.37285$8S2.710220@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com... > Does anyone know of any websites that list Hebrew baby names? A friend of > mine is converting to Judaism and needs to chose a name. ============================================================================== This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent authorities in those fields. [...] 1221 46 70_[SCJ-PARENTING:5032] Re: Pesach with toddlers and babies! Suggestions?14_Robyn Kozierok23_robynk@shell3.shore.net29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:25:01 EST487_- In article <200003061333.IAA17483@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J Schmidt wrote:

>* Fewer courses in the meal--bring out the dippers (for us, the first > artichokes of the season with garlic mayonnaise/margarine) and soup > together, then the main course, then dessert.

I would recommend having food available continuously. A veggie platter, soup nuts, dried fruits, etc. that they can munch on. An eating child is a quiet child. :) [...] 1268 43 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:5033] Jewish education17_Aliza N. Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:25:04 EST541_- Hello fellow Jewish parents,

I am looking for some advice. I have a daughter who will be 2 in September. This means, at least in my area, that we have to start thinking about which school to send her to. My husband and I are committed to sending her to a Yeshiva (Jewish Day School), that is not an issue. We are Orthodox and committed strongly to Yahadut (Judaism). There are 3 Yeshivot in our area. They are all frum schools, but 2 of them are better in terms of their educational strengths; the other is a more frum school. [...] 1312 57 48_[SCJ-PARENTING:5034] Re: be excited about Purim?8_Tampamom18_benet4@gateway.net29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:29:49 EST501_-

max_weisenfeld wrote in message <952448080scjp-submit@shamash.org>...

How about a puffy yellow costume =

with a big blue Mogen David? Pikajew!

Max



ROFL. You obviously know 7 yo boys!!!

Marion----Tampamom to Louis(7) and Erica(2)

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This is a good headache to have! A choice of three day schools/yeshivot to choose from! Mazel Tov!

To add to your headache a little bit more, remember that even at the most frum school, there will be some spectrum of kashrut observance. However, most parents are very careful with other children because no one wants their child to be an outcast due to a rumor that someone's child was served non-kosher food. For example, almost all of the parents at the day school where my wife and I send our little pokemon set out snacks on [...] 1487 67 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:5037] Israel with Kids0_16_NinaSalk@aol.com29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:26:33 EST382_- Now that I'm back from our family trip to Israel, I want to thank everyone on the list for their suggestions about things to do with kids. You folks were correct that virtually all restaurants are kid friendly, and even if there isn't something on the menu that's exactly what your kids like, they'll work with you on it and not treat your picky eaters like toxic waste! :-) [...] 1555 77 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5038] Re: Jewish education21_Natalie Kim Bjorklund24_umbjork1@cc.UManitoba.CA29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:07:04 EST312_- In article <952915930scjp-submit@shamash.org> you write: >Hello fellow Jewish parents, > >There are 3 Yeshivot >in our area. They are all frum schools, but 2 of them are better in terms >of their educational strengths; the other is a more frum school. >The question has become, which one do we sacrifice? [...] 1633 40 57_[SCJ-PARENTING:5040] please post the following correction14_Deborah Louria20_dlouria@mail.jvs.org29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:23:35 EST628_-

Dear Friends,

Many thanks for your interest in the Million Mom March, the national grassroots movement to protest gun violence in America. Moms and "honorary moms" will celebrate Mother's Day this May 14th by gathering on the Mall in Washington, D.C. to urge legislators to adopt more sensible gun control legislation. I'd like to update my recent post with a corrected website address: http://www.millionmommarch.com; which I invite you to visit. By doing so, you can simply register your name as "another mom in a million." Feel free to let me know if can answer any other questions. Thanks, and shalom. [...] 1674 59 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5041] Re: Jewish education15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:23:39 EST572_- In article <952915930scjp-submit@shamash.org>, "Aliza N. Fischman" wrote:

> Hello fellow Jewish parents, > > I am looking for some advice. I have a daughter who will be 2 in > September. This means, at least in my area, that we have to start thinking > about which school to send her to. My husband and I are committed to > sending her to a Yeshiva (Jewish Day School), that is not an issue. We are > Orthodox and committed strongly to Yahadut (Judaism). There are 3 Yeshivot > in our area. They are all frum schools, but 2 of [...] 1734 79 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5042] Re: Jewish education19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com29_Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:01:16 EST340_-

Fred writes:

> You can always compensate for a frummer school with weaker secular academics.

I wonder if this is true. (My guess is that situations vary widely, but you say 'always', which in this context is a strong word.) I'd be interested in knowing more about the experiences of parents who have done this. [...] 1814 37 45_[SCJ-PARENTING:5043] More Purim Costume Ideas12_Ron Kritzman18_ron-k@mediaone.net29_Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:22:26 EST531_- max_weisenfeld wrote:

> How about a puffy yellow costume with a big blue Mogen David? >Pikajew!

Love it!

How about this one: Black cloak, facemask/gas mask, cowboy hat and guitar.

"Darth Brooks" (or maybe Garth Vader?)

Ron

============================================================================== This post reflects the author's opinion; the moderators' opinions may differ. Posters seeking medical or halachic information should consult competent authorities in those fields. [...] 1852 109 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5045] Day School decision15_Marjorie Peskin24_mpeskin@lynx.dac.neu.edu29_Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:38:19 EST535_- > > With regard, specifically, to Jewish schools-- > Up to a certain point, for me, the level of observance of my child's peers > matters somewhat less than their *attitude* toward those with greater and > less stringency in their observance. That attitude, as espoused by the > school in action as well as word, is one thing I intend to look at very > carefully when it comes time for us to make these decisions. > > To put it in secular terms: you could say I'm interested in the derivative > more than the absolute value. To [...] 1962 33 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5046] Re: Jewish Education12_Ron Kritzman18_ron-k@mediaone.net29_Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:27:28 EST396_- Aliza N. Fischman wrote:

> I am looking for some advice. I have a daughter who will be 2 in > September. This means, at least in my area, that we have to=20 > start thinking about which school to send her to.=20

I wonder if age 2 isn't a bit early to be making this kind of decision? At 2 there isn't much information with which to assess the educational needs of the child. [...] 1996 77 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5047] Day School decision19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com29_Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:33:15 EST538_-

Marjorie writes:

> I've posted quite a number of times in the past couple of years about my > problem being considered a frummie parent in a 'community' Jewish day > school that is actually a secular Jewish day school.

[...]

I remembered your story about the parent who took your son out for a cheeseburger from last time you posted it--it appalled me that much, showing not only a lack of respect for Jewish observance, but for you personally as well. I was thinking about it as I wrote my last post. [...] 2074 58 95_[SCJ-PARENTING:5048] Re: Jewish education by Alexandra J Schmidt 13_Marjie Risman28_mrisman@ped1.med.uth.tmc.edu29_Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:00:31 EST567_- My older son is in the second grade at a Modern Orthodox school. I consider the diversity of backgrounds and levels of observance found at the school a plus, not a minus. Mutual respect and tolerance is strongly emphasized, while the levels of education in the three areas: secular, Judaic studies and Modern Hebrew are all high. (Some would say too high -- the kids are under a lot of pressure). The standard of behavior at the school is observant: tsniut, kashrut, davening, etc. One of the rabbis sends out a letter every year with guidelines on how to run [...] 2133 92 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5049] Re: Jewish education15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:18:20 EST610_- In article <200003132159.QAA27269@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J Schmidt wrote:

> Fred writes: > > > You can always compensate for a frummer school with weaker secular academics. > > I wonder if this is true. (My guess is that situations vary widely, but > you say 'always', which in this context is a strong word.) I'd be interested > in knowing more about the experiences of parents who have done this. > > > You can push for an enrichment program or advanced work, you can supplement > > at home with educational materials. If the program is that much weaker [...] 2226 52 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5050] Re: Jewish education13_Marjie Risman28_mrisman@ped1.med.uth.tmc.edu29_Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:09:40 EST330_- >I'm afraid that my children would be more influenced by the actions of the >other children ("Why does Joey get to eat that?" "Why does Joey watch TV on >Shabbos") than by their respect, even if they recognized that my children >didn't, for example, eat nonkosher snacks, at expressed some approval of >their observance. > [...] 2279 52 62_[SCJ-PARENTING:5051] Book discussion on Jewish Moral Education0_18_greenhou@erols.com29_Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:21:51 EST361_- Thought this might be of interest to the newsgroup, especially in light of recent discussions on Jewish day schools.

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l e a r n @ j t s N E W S U P D A T E [...] 2332 97 52_[SCJ-PARENTING:5052] Re: ANNOUNCE: Million Mom March15_Fred Rosenblatt15_fredr5@juno.com29_Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:15:12 EST546_- ********** MODERATOR'S NOTE: I am permitting this message only as for the sake of granting "equal time" to this poster and pointing out that there are many sides to this difficult issue. The earlier post might have given the impression that advocating tighter gun control is the only possible "Jewish parenting" response. Follow-up posts should relate DIRECTLY to Jewish parenting concerns; further discussion of the Jewish response to gun control or gun advocacy should be conducted in another forum (like soc.culture.jewish). ********** [...] 2430 36 35_[SCJ-PARENTING:5053] Purim Costumes22_Sales Judaica For Kids24_sales@judaicaforkids.com29_Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:27:39 EST661_- This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Last year, I loved reading about the most hilarious and original Purim Costumes you all encountered. Won't you please indulge me and let's hear what impressed you this year?

Wendy Darrow

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********** MODERATOR'S NOTE: I am permitting this message only as for the sake of granting "equal time" to this poster and pointing out that there are many sides to this difficult issue. The earlier post might have given the impression that advocating tighter gun control is the only possible "Jewish parenting" response. Follow-up posts should relate DIRECTLY to Jewish parenting concerns; further discussion of the Jewish response [...] 2574 40 32_[SCJ-PARENTING:5056] Purim Torah17_Aliza N. Fischman28_fisch.chips@worldnet.att.net29_Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:09:38 EST284_- I thought all you parents would appreciate this piece of Purim Torah that my husband told me today.

Why do we boo Haman while we read the megilla? True, it was bad that he tried to kill us all, and we are happy that he died. But why boo at the mere mention of his name? [...] 2615 46 30_[SCJ-PARENTING:5058] Thank you5_Karla16_karla@ntcorp.com29_Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:10:00 EST330_- I wanted to thank folks for costume ideas for Purim.

My older son who is at *that* age wore my husband's Darth Vader mask, carried a light saber and wore jeans, black turtleneck & a denim shirt with a cowboy hat and went as Darth Brooks. (Thank you so much for that idea...it apparently had many adults in stitches. [...] 2662 34 40_[SCJ-PARENTING:5060] More Purim Costumes14_max_weisenfeld29_Max_Weisenfeld@compuserve.com29_Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:27:56 EST490_-

After much cajoling, my three-year-old refused to wear his King Ahahshveros costume, insisting on wearing his "Blue's Clues" outfit. We pinned a star on him and called him "Jews Clues"

Ouch.

Max

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> > Last year, I loved reading about the most hilarious and original Purim > Costumes you all encountered. Won't you please indulge me and let's > hear what impressed you this year? > > Wendy Darrow > Our Rabbi's last name is Julias. This year a friend and I were the Purim coordinators, and the three of us were Orange Julias and his Florida Orange Jews. We decorated the entire shul in pink flamingos, wore dyed orange t'shirts and leggings, and the Rabbi had a fabulous orange wig that the top flipped off of when he pulled a ring [...] 2745 41 41_[SCJ-PARENTING:5062] Four Questions alert16_Steven Weintraub19_stevenw@fchoice.com29_Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:51:44 EST205_- This is to remind those of you who have young kid who don't yet know the four questions that now is the time to start working with them so that they'll be able to know them by the time the seder arrives. 2787 73 44_[SCJ-PARENTING:5063] Re: Day School decision16_Edwin Lewis King17_edking@lucent.com29_Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:58:25 EST515_- Alexandra J Schmidt wrote: > > Marjorie writes: > > > I've posted quite a number of times in the past couple of years about my > > problem being considered a frummie parent in a 'community' Jewish day > > school that is actually a secular Jewish day school. > > [...] > > I remembered your story about the parent who took your son out for > a cheeseburger from last time you posted it--it appalled me that much, > showing not only a lack of respect for Jewish observance, but for you > personally as well. I [...] 2861 40 43_[SCJ-PARENTING:5064] [Meta] Test Submission15_Daniel P Faigin21_faigin@pacificnet.net29_Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:52:41 EST415_- **************************************** MODERATOR'S NOTE: This is a test message to check a new moderator's note system. Please ignore this message.

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This is a test submission to test a new facility of the randomizer program for moderators. You can safely ignore this message, but there was no other way to test the final product. [...] 2902 130 46_[SCJ-PARENTING:5065] Re: Taking Kids to Israel15_Lisa Braiterman23_braiterman@mediaone.net29_Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:42:35 EST265_- Dear Nina,

We took our nine and four-year-old children to Israel last April for a 3-week trip. We visited with our family in Hadera as well as in Tel Aviv = and we spent a week in Jerusalem at a hotel. Our family also joined us in Jerusalem fo a day. [...] 3033 53 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:5066] Re: Hebrew names15_Lisa Braiterman23_braiterman@mediaone.net29_Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:46:24 EST525_- Dear Marny,

Try this book:

Beyond Sarah and Sam : An Enlightened Guide to Jewish Baby Naming You can find it at Amazon.com at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312069049/qid=954176810/sr=1-7/103-5 493463-8707025

Also this one: The New Jewish Baby Book : Names Ceremonies Customs a Guide for Today's Families by Anita Diamant http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1879045281/qid=954176932/sr=1-4/103-5 493463-8707025

These are both wonderful books!!

Sincerely, Lisa Braiterman [...] 3087 44 53_[SCJ-PARENTING:5067] favorite Purim costume this year19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com29_Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:26:59 EST289_-

I really liked the sense of style/humor of the young mother I saw realistically dressed as a cow, nursing her baby in the back of the shul. She explained that she'd been either pregnant or nursing each of the last three Purims, so she was getting lots of mileage out of it! [...] 3132 47 37_[SCJ-PARENTING:5068] Re: Hebrew names14_David de Graaf35_degraafSPAMMENOT@SPAMMENOTiname.com29_Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:57:25 EST351_-

You may want to check http://www.babynames.com and select their Hebrew origin names. I had a similar request a while ago and decided on a book by SMadar Shir Sidi with more modern Hebrew names. Granted, this is for a baby and not for an adult, but we found it to be very helpful and informative and have the largest selection of names. [...] 3180 38 57_[SCJ-PARENTING:5069] Re: favorite Purim costume this year14_Jan Silbermann16_js@cs.tulane.edu29_Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:04:38 EST588_- In article <200003271341.IAA13925@gematria.crd.ge.com>, Alexandra J Schmidt wrote: > >I wore my Indian sari (also a good costume for pregnant people) and >Steve donned his Israeli military duds (complete with gray engineer's = beret)

We took advantgae of the fact that this is david's last Purim before his upshernish and he has wonderful long hair and dressed him as Mel Gibso in Braveheart. He was wearing a little kilt, a shirt and had his face painted blue (-: Jan, Mommy to Tovah (9) Eliana (7) Asher (5) David (2) and Shoshana (6 weeks) [...] 3219 43 61_[SCJ-PARENTING:5070] Deadlines for Day School Applications???15_Irene Bleiweiss16_IBLEIWEI@fcc.gov29_Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:37:19 EST545_- When is the deadline for applying to Jewish day schools in your area? I'm = curious of whether there is a common pattern, and also hope the information= will help other parents avoid what just happened to me.

I just had the surprise of calling the closest (15 mile away) Jewish day = school in March for an application and was told that the selection = process for next September's kindergarten class has long been completed. = They asked didn't I know that selection is done a full year before entry? = So my son has to be put on [...] 3263 44 52_[SCJ-PARENTING:5072] Re: Chametz and My Two Year Old0_21_IREISS@samello.com.br29_Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:20:42 EST387_- **************************************** MODERATOR'S NOTE: This is being permitted even though it is a question that deals with general Jewish practice. I am permitting it so that this mother can get helpful input about what others have done in this situation. Please keep the discussion directly relevant to the parenting issue involved. **************************************** [...] 3308 70 52_[SCJ-PARENTING:5073] Re: Chametz and My Two Year Old19_Alexandra J Schmidt28_aschmidt@gematria.crd.ge.com29_Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:38:33 EST352_-

Ah, the kitniyot (rice and beans) capers again.

> Does anyone know > which Rabbis prohibit it, which ones allow it, and what the reasoning behind > probibiting and and allowing it is?

Jennifer Paquette and I had a fair bit of discussion on this last year, in the April/May time frame. You may wish to check the archives at [...] 3379 66 65_[SCJ-PARENTING:5074] Re: Deadlines for Day School Applications???14_Frank Pantaleo22_moles@rochester.rr.com29_Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:38:46 EST362_-

Irene Bleiweiss wrote in message ...

I didn't know that the day school admission process was done so far in advance. My only experience is with the public schools, for which kindergarten tours of the school begin in March and registration is done in May or June.

Is my area day school's Fall application process, typical or unusual? [...] 3446 42 51_[SCJ-PARENTING:5076] Israel and the Bar Mitzvah boy0_16_STEINMOS@aol.com29_Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:12:48 EST489_- My son will be a bar mitzvah at the end of October, and my Rabbi has been planning a group trip to Israel, which is scheduled to leave 11 days after the bar mitzvah. It seems we are meant to go. My son is already asking those big spiritual questions about what it means to be Jewish, and I think the trip to Israel would answer many of those questions. Even with only half of our family going (just my son and I), I am not sure how we will be able to afford to take this trip. I am [...] 3489 47 65_[SCJ-PARENTING:5077] Re: Deadlines for Day School Applications???16_Evelyn C. Leeper35_eleeper@starship.dnrc.bell-labs.com29_Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:28:02 EST320_- In article , Irene Bleiweiss wrote: > > I didn't know that the day school admission process was done so far in > advance. My only experience is with the public schools, for which > kindergarten tours of the school begin in March and registration is done > in May or June. [...] 3537 52 65_[SCJ-PARENTING:5078] Re: Deadlines for Day School Applications???21_Natalie Kim Bjorklund24_umbjork1@cc.UManitoba.CA29_Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:41:28 EST608_- In article <8c2eq6$9bq@nntpa.cb.lucent.com> you write: >In article , Irene Bleiweiss wrote: >> >> I didn't know that the day school admission process was done so far in >> advance. My only experience is with the public schools, for which >> kindergarten tours of the school begin in March and registration is done >> in May or June. > Our school here in Winnipeg tries its very best to get parents to register by March 31 each year. Even then they have a hard time accomodationg everything and making sure they have the right number of teachers for the Hebrew [...] 3590 14 55_[SCJ-PARENTING:5079] Re: Israel and the Bar Mitzvah boy13_Adelle Stavis30_Nospamcuthbertson@mediaone.net29_Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:56:26 EST499_- Start within your own Temple, and regional Jewish organizations. I know our Temple, along with the local Hadassah, have scholarship funds for such trips. I've seen the acknowledgements for donations to these funds in our Temple bulletin. I think there is also a national fund, too.

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