1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/mochin September 2008
2 738 31_Will the world end on Wednesday13_David S.Devor13_devor@USA.NET30_Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:08:20 +0300485_windows-1255 Will the world end on Wednesday?
a.. Jon Henley
b.. The Guardian,
c.. Monday September 8 2008
d.. Article history
Purple haze shows dark matter flanking the 'Bullet Cluster'. Photograph: AP.
Be a bit of a pain if it did, wouldn't it? And the most frustrating thing is that we won't know for sure either way until the European laboratory for particle physics (Cern) in Geneva switches on its Large Hadron Collider the day after tomorrow. [...]34_8Sep200821:08:20+0300devor@USA.NET
741 408 32_Will the world end on Wednesday?14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:03:21 +0300474_windows-1255 B'S"D
Dear Friends,
The article I sent through yesterday from which I am quoting here,
R?ssler apparently thinks it "quite plausible" that the "mini black holes" the Cern atom-smasher creates "will survive and grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside". So convinced is he that he has lodged an EU court lawsuit alleging that the project violates the right to life guaranteed under the European Convention of Human Rights. [...]35_10Sep200816:03:21+0300devor@USA.NET
1150 1113 38_New Study Shows Solar System is Unique13_David S.Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:28:28 +0300452_windows-1255 B'S"D
Popular wisom, including among scientists, is that the earth and
the life on it is rather average, in cosmic terms, and that, in time,
we shall discover a multitude of advanced civilizations on planets
across the galaxy and beyond. It appears, as the article below
attests, that some are beginning to see life on earth as more
special, even unique, than has been considered by "rationalists"
until now. [...]35_12Sep200815:28:28+0300devor@USA.NET
2264 176 13_vital request13_David S.Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:00:58 +0300612_windows-1255 Dear Associates, Mochin Subscribers (and a few, non-associate supporters),
Over the years, I have been guilty of giving you far too
few opportunities to help advance our cause. On the
few occasions that I have asked you for help, a few of
you responded well, some massively but most just kept
silent. In the case that you have lost your interest In PM,
please let me know and I'll remove you from the Associates
List. No need to be embarrassed, I shall understand. PM
isn't for everyone and interests change. If you are not
currently associated with PM, you may, [...]35_19Sep200811:00:58+0300devor@USA.NET
2441 149 17_Fw: vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:56:42 +0300593_windows-1255 ----- Original Message -----
From: wry
To: David S.Devor
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: vital request
I was interested from the beginning and still am. The ideas I have are extremely creative and much in line with this theme and also with science, but I have felt that real enquiry was from the beginning discouraged and it has always been sad to me. Unless for some reason I am not receiving communication from the original list I signed up her, it seems that there is not much of a generative communication on this theme which is [...]35_19Sep200811:56:42+0300devor@USA.NET
2591 171 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:15:34 +0300641_utf-8 Dear Mochin Friends,
Below is a first response to my request.
The author, a PM associate, didn't ask to be published
so I'll leave out his name.
Thank you, E.M.
Shabbat Shalom,
David
Blessings to Flow from the Success of PM:
1 – Physical: True end of hunger, disease, and end of war (serves no purpose, plus defensive capabilities would ultimately outflank even were there, as was is with Murphy’s Law, and Peace is on the other side). Virtually limitless prosperity. Life expectancy begins to increase faster than people’s ages, with a world that can now readily support it. [...]35_19Sep200813:15:34+0300devor@USA.NET
2763 97 12_news release13_David S.Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:37:40 +0300510_windows-1255 Below is a message from associate, Owen Thomas,
Best,
David
======================================
David:
I have just installed Linux on my bedroom laptop. KDE is a windows style
manager but does not require any software which requires payment to
Microsoft. Public domain software is now just as easy as MS Windows
software.
I am writing you through my newly installed Linux based system which does
nat act like the Microsoft blackhole for my money! [...]35_19Sep200815:37:40+0300devor@USA.NET
2861 666 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:31:07 +0300616_windows-1255 This my response to a recent message from "Wry."
Dear Wry,
Thank you for your comments. I'll reply as briefly as possible.
>have felt that real enquiry was from the beginning discouraged and it has always been sad to me.
I disagree but we probably have different definitions of "real enquiry."
>Unless for some reason I am not receiving communication from the original list I signed up....
You are right. There is very little traffic. The reason is, in my
opinion, that the bar is very high and PM is extremely well
thought out and well structured. To ask a [...]35_19Sep200816:31:07+0300devor@USA.NET
3528 797 17_Re: vital request3_wry21_wry1111@EARTHLINK.NET31_Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:12:25 -0700472_iso-8859-1 Hi. Thanks for the reply, David. Okay, I am going to start participating, though my time is extremely limited and it might take me a while to decide how to best approach. First I will look over the material on the site, as I have not been there for quite a while. I will respond to your comments below..
----- Original Message -----
From: David S. Devor
To: MOCHIN@SHAMASH.ORG
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:31 AM
Subject: vital request [...]43_19Sep200812:12:25-0700wry1111@EARTHLINK.NET
4326 514 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:28:04 +0300320_iso-8859-1 Hi. Thanks for the reply, David. Okay, I am going to start participating, though my time is extremely limited and it might take me a while to decide how to best approach. First I will look over the material on the site, as I have not been there for quite a while. I will respond to your comments below.. [...]35_20Sep200820:28:04+0300devor@USA.NET
4841 422 17_Re: vital request18_Shlomo Friedlander25_s123friedlander@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:50:42 -0700442_us-ascii B.H.
David,
This is a marvelous dialogue, and I am very happy that you posted it.
I can personally confirm that it took me about 3 years to "grok" the basic outlook of PM, and that I became much more excited about the project when that happened.
I once invited about 6 close friends and relatives to sign up as associates, and only one even had the courtesy to respond, explaining why he would NOT join. [...]47_20Sep200821:50:42-0700s123friedlander@YAHOO.COM
5264 565 17_Re: vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:50:21 +0300609_iso-8859-1 Hi Shlomo,
It would be nice to have new associates. There's
natural turnover with several who have died and a
few who signed up for superficial reasons and
left for similar reasons. We need new blood, new
ideas, new initiatives and new enthusiasm.
Many years ago, I joined several mail lists with related
themes and that attracted a few people. I had dialogs
with a few persons that lasted months and even years
until they "groked" it as you say. I submit that the
fundamental problem is in the difficulty of grasping PM
as a whole. I knew one person, [...]35_21Sep200815:50:21+0300devor@USA.NET
5830 261 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:51:43 +0300459_iso-8859-1 I would like to remain an Associate of PM. I do feel the principles of PM are more important than ever given what is going on in the world in which we live. These principles open the shefa from the worlds above to our's which allow us, by our thoughts, meditations, and deeds to return that Divine flow to its source. The responsbility is ours!!!
I wish you, David, and all others a healthy and peaceful New Year 5769.
Rabbi Steven Moss [...]35_21Sep200815:51:43+0300devor@USA.NET
6092 1385 23_THE PURPOSE OF CREATION14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:29:27 +0300493_windows-1255 Dear Mochin Friends,
Rather than just express opinions and sentiments, I thought
I'd share the following short essay with you that most have
you have likely not seen. It's a little different from most of the
essays on PM in that it gave the widest possible perspective.
It might help you in coming up with ideas for my "vital request."
Please excuse the references to Judaism but, as you will see,
these are helpful and not arbitrary references. [...]35_21Sep200818:29:27+0300devor@USA.NET
7478 122 15_: vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:03:43 +0300347_iso-8859-1 Greetings David,
Sorry it's taken me awhile to respond. My youngest son has been visiting and that's consumed most of my energy this weekend. I think the essence of Project Mind is quite simply:
The removal from lack and pursuit of materialism in the world, which removes most of the reasons for fighting except ego, [...]35_21Sep200823:03:43+0300devor@USA.NET
7601 268 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:07:24 +0300636_ISO-8859-1 ----- Original Message -----
From: David McIntyre
To: David S.Devor
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: vital request
The success of PM will bring all humans closer together through collective intention of vision. Once people can see their thoughts manifested into reality and they realize the power in shared vision and experience brought to bear on a resolving a problem or achieving a result, political, social, and technological problems will dissolve, allowing us to reach the next evolution of human consciousness and achievement. Anything that can be imagined can be created. [...]35_22Sep200815:07:24+0300devor@USA.NET
7870 70 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:30:34 +0300607_ISO-8859-1 Hi Jim,
> I think the essence of Project Mind is quite simply:
>The removal from lack and pursuit of materialism in the world, which
>removes most of the reasons for >fighting except ego,
Happily, with the conquest of matter, ego will be the first
thing to go. With the total devaluation of matter, it will be
impossible to covet anything material just as it is impossible
to covet sea water today. This will remove free choice from
us since, the only reason we have free choice is our metaphysical
blindness. It is essential to gasp this. Without the ability [...]35_22Sep200815:30:34+0300devor@USA.NET
7941 189 17_Re: vital request6_Liam K27_quantum.leaf@GOOGLEMAIL.COM31_Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:13:09 +0100604_ISO-8859-1 Hi Mochin,
>
>
> Yet, I am terminally ill and eager to find someone capable of
> taking up the mantle. No one has stepped up because of the
> obvious, almost daunting difficulties and commitment required
> by the task. It is a life mission and the highest priority of my
> life.
> -------
> Wry: I did not know you are ill. I wish you much blessings and a
> spontaneous remission from whatever you are suffering from.. In this regard
> what you have written last night asking for the blessings is very
> [...]49_23Sep200814:13:09+0100quantum.leaf@GOOGLEMAIL.COM
8131 55 17_Re: vital request12_James Jarvis25_JAMESJARVIS@EARTHLINK.NET31_Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:40:55 -0500483_ISO-8859-1 Hi David,
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I would have a different spin on
this. As a psychologist, I have seen people through the years who are
motivated by a need for power and to control others. Usually, they are
pretty evil and aren’t looking for material things per say. They just
like to control others and I’m including them in ego here. So a
removal of lack wouldn’t affect their attitude much. But a spiritual
revolution would. [...]47_22Sep200818:40:55-0500JAMESJARVIS@EARTHLINK.NET
8187 70 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:33:35 +0300632_iso-8859-1 Hi Jim,
>They just like to control others and I'm including them in ego here.
>So a removal of lack wouldn't affect their attitude much. But a
>spiritual revolution would.
There is one and only one way to effect a universal
awakening or "spiritual revolution." With the conquest
of matter, it will become impossible to covet anything
material just as it is now impossible for you to crave
seawater. The only remaining option will be to cleave
to the spiritual. Think about it. Conditions of existence
that obviate materialism! And PM is the strategy for
getting us there. But if [...]35_26Sep200817:33:35+0300devor@USA.NET
8258 110 17_Re: vital request3_wry21_wry1111@EARTHLINK.NET31_Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:25:53 -0700595_iso-8859-1 Hi David and everyone. This is my understanding of the situation: Even if
certain material obstacles are removed, there will still be desire. (Some)
people will always find something to cling to, such as craving for the love
of a member of the opposite sex or even land. Basically people will cling to
pleasure and when they do this it will create the imbalance of desire and
therefore cause suffering, because pleasure is not the same as the joy of
generosity for example, as such a joy is encompassing of all people. If
anyone is interested to tell me the [...]43_26Sep200811:25:53-0700wry1111@EARTHLINK.NET
8369 546 17_Re: vital request11_Alison Byer17_abyer@COMCAST.NET31_Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:44:58 -0400347_us-ascii David, honestly I haven't time to write much here, I'm just facing many
deadlines on many projects right now, but I can't let this go by without
responding in some way. Therefore I tacked on a little about AT to the end
of something I wrote last week about our political situation in the US. I
hope you are OK with that. [...]39_26Sep200812:44:58-0400abyer@COMCAST.NET
8916 215 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:30:06 +0300649_iso-8859-1 Hi Alison,
That was most thoughtful of you even for
a veteran associate and friend.
Any chance of seeing the advt.? Maybe I
can contribute something.
Best,
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Alison Byer
To: MOCHIN@SHAMASH.ORG
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: vital request
David, honestly I haven't time to write much here, I'm just facing many deadlines on many projects right now, but I can't let this go by without responding in some way. Therefore I tacked on a little about AT to the end of something I wrote last week about our political situation [...]35_27Sep200823:30:06+0300devor@USA.NET
9132 156 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:06:23 +0300365_iso-8859-1 Hi Wry,
Your problem is that you believe that you are
awake.
When free choice is removed and you awaken,
like all others, you will know that you have only
one soul-mate and you'll know who this is. There
will be no extraneous desires of any kind and there
will be absolutely nothing to cling to beyond the
spiritual. [...]35_28Sep200800:06:23+0300devor@USA.NET
9289 2159 28_Rosh HaShana - 5769 (2008-9)14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:41:48 +0300619_Windows-1252 B'S"D
28 Elul, 5768
Dear Mochin Subscribers, PM Associates, Rabbis, Friends and Family,
Tomorrow night begins the Jewish New Year -- 5769 -- that celebrates the
Creation of man. (The Creation of the world comes 5 days earlier on the
25th of Elul.). The sound of the Shofar (there are three different modalities)
is meant to affect us in various ways but, mostly, it is to awaken us to the
Kingship of the Creator and our role of partnership in fulfilling the purpose
in Creation and to the need to purify ourselves, through repentance, for
fulfilling this role. [...]35_28Sep200819:41:48+0300devor@USA.NET
11449 255 13_vital request14_David S. Devor13_devor@USA.NET31_Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:11:35 +0300598_gb2312 David,
As requested, Herewith is a summary, a simple list of the blessing to me that fows from PM.
1. A unique focus of awareness as to the reality of my essential "Being" and that "I am" (lower case) is an intimate integration of the Divine Infinite, the primary essential Great " I AM"
2.The realization that I am not alone in perceiving the awsome reality of Mind.
3. An unspeakable inward excitement, knowing intuitively that what we are witnessing in this era of world history reflects the dynamics
of the international forces of mind and that when the ultimate [...]35_29Sep200811:11:35+0300devor@USA.NET