1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/mochin August 2001 2 14 44_Re: : Cr. Genius vs. Acc. Thought :: to Stan2_BO16_bopaez@yahoo.com28_Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:37:26 EDT424_- Are there no more discussions on accelerated thought ?
It is a brilliant topic.

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Dear Mochin subscribers, PM Associates and Friends,

Today I was interviewed, In Hebrew, for radio on the
subject of my adaptation to life in Israel since 1963.
The style is a little bit like the old TV show "This is
Your Life" and, towards the end, I got to speak a little
about Project Mind. [...]35_2Aug200122:01:30-0500rochel@look.ca 59 90 44_Re: : Cr. Genius vs. Acc. Thought :: to Stan16_Monohar A. Tilak16_matilak@usit.net28_Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:46:08 EDT677_- Shalom to ALL:

My book "Infinities to Eternities" {has been reviewed by
Physics as well as Philosophical genius Editor, Journal of
Theoretics, Dr. Siepmann}
(Title: Infinities to Eternities - The Cosmic Vision of Evolution,
Author: Manohar Tilak, Date: 1998)

with the following words:

In an age where the term philosophical is used by some
to discredit an author, this book shows why philosophy
and science are so inseparable. The author a scholar
of diverse background, looks to find general principals in
the universe which he has come to call "evoluons."
Though a book describing and showing factual support
for the [...]35_4Aug200122:46:08EDTmatilak@usit.net 150 26 19_accelerated thought16_Andrew Hennessey21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk28_Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:46:16 EDT459_- the problems we have with accelerated thought
seem to take us beyond 'rational' definitions of
genius.
I read someone say that some genius was relatively
mundane in comparison.
I don't proclaim it - but some [misguided?] people
have called me a genius because of my portfolio.
perhaps wif you were to assess my website -
which contains my 'credentials' - maybe you could
tell me what I need to do to get more acceleration ?? [...]40_4Aug200122:46:16EDTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 177 41 23_Re: accelerated thought16_devor@huji.ac.il21_devor@projectmind.org28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:20:30 EDT582_windows-1255 Hi Andrew,

> the problems we have with accelerated thought
> seem to take us beyond 'rational' definitions of
> genius.
Indeed. The problem is to find enough interest in something
for it to allow us to vibrate with it with every fiber of our
being. A.T. starts with obsession.

> I read someone say that some genius was relatively
> mundane in comparison.
Genius, as we usually understand it, is more a matter of
facility than effort. So in the short run, I would go with
genius. In the long run, it is effort that matters. [...]40_5Aug200109:20:30EDTdevor@projectmind.org 219 39 23_Re: accelerated thought9_CB Willis22_cbwillis@lightlink.com28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:20:36 EDT553_- Andrew writes:
> the problems we have with accelerated thought
> seem to take us beyond 'rational' definitions of
> genius.
> I read someone say that some genius was relatively
> mundane in comparison.
> I don't proclaim it - but some [misguided?] people
> have called me a genius because of my portfolio.
> perhaps wif you were to assess my website -
> which contains my 'credentials' - maybe you could
> tell me what I need to do to get more acceleration ??
>
> andrew hennessey
> www.scotlandthehive.com [...]41_5Aug200109:20:36EDTcbwillis@lightlink.com 259 51 23_Re: accelerated thought16_Monohar A. Tilak16_matilak@usit.net28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:24:27 EDT600_- Shalom to ALL!

What is acceleration? Physically it means L/ t raised to two.
It is change in the any velocity of an object per second per
second, CAUSED BY PHYSICAL FORCE.

Evolutionarily it means change in the complexity of the
trajectory that is subjected to evolutionary change! I am
sure that though you think of spirituality not many have
much of a notion what 'spirit' is. I have discussed many
aspects of evolutionary existence Biblically it is said that
the spirit described it self as I AM WHAT I AM! I have given
many of these angles of thoughts [...]35_5Aug200117:24:27EDTmatilak@usit.net 311 34 10_CB said...10_Doug Evans16_doug@icparts.com28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:51:38 EDT449_- >I believe accelerated thinking does necessarily include
>the spiritual dimensions of life, spiritual awareness,
>awareness that something spiritual allows for or
>underlies accelerated thinking - is its sine qua non,
>but I'd be interested in others' comments on this.
>Does it make sense to use the term accelerated
>thinking as we do in Project Mind with no reference
>or connection at all to the spiritual?
>- CBW [...]35_5Aug200117:51:38EDTdoug@icparts.com 346 47 23_Re: accelerated thought15_Jelke Wispelwey21_wispj@sk.sympatico.ca28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:51:47 EDT638_us-ascii CB Willis wrote:

> Our ordinary sense of genius doesn't necessarily
> include the spriritual dimensions of life, spiritual
> awareness.

Agree. Our ordinary sense of genius is, IMO, an
improved (accelerated?!) mental ability. Yet, we've
also had spiritual geniuses: Moses, JC, the
Buddha, Lao Tse etc.

> I believe accelerated thinking does necessarily include
> the spiritual dimensions of life, spiritual awareness,
> awareness that something spiritual allows for or
> underlies accelerated thinking - is its sine qua
> non, but I'd be interested in others' comments on this. [...]40_5Aug200117:51:47EDTwispj@sk.sympatico.ca 394 19 23_Re: accelerated thought16_Andrew Hennessey21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:51:59 EDT310_- yes - well if we assume that I am well and truly an aware
and functional spiritual being - perhaps lacking in telepathic
endowment - but that spirit realms feature in my life style
and modus operandii - how then do you suggest that I
ask those angels to enhance my output or contribution ?? [...]40_5Aug200117:51:59EDTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 414 41 15_On spirituality9_CB Willis22_cbwillis@lightlink.com28_Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:18:35 EDT605_- > Please define these terms.
>
> Spiritual Dimensions of Life
>
> Spiritual Awareness
>
> Something Spiritual
>
> ... and for others in this forum, please define the term "Spirituality".

Spirituality deals with things of the Spirit: God by whatever
term(s) you use, and that aspect of us made in the image
of God (i.e. us as spirit, by whatever term(s) you use). We
could follow that with noting some of the attributes of God
(since we could never note them all), and an observation of
the workings of Spirit. I don't want to get into sectarianism
[...]41_5Aug200120:18:35EDTcbwillis@lightlink.com 456 19 23_Re: accelerated thought15_Marcus Robinson23_marcus@ethoschannel.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:59:38 EDT449_iso-8859-1 The mental domain (mind stuff) is but another expression of the spiritual
domain.

Marcus

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referencing here) are lacking the "telelpathic endowment"?

Marcus

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=42_6Aug200109:59:47EDTmarcus@ethoschannel.com 496 21 16_Re: Spirituality0_18_YFel912928@aol.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:59:58 EDT566_US-ASCII What spirituality comes to, in my mind, is an
emotional and meta-emotional experience of the
Divine rooted in a world view that allows for
transcendence, acquiescence, and higher wisdom.

Yaakov Feldman

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=37_6Aug200109:59:58EDTYFel912928@aol.com 518 18 19_Re: On spirituality15_henry neal camp16_hugger@qwest.net28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:00:06 EDT488_us-ascii There is no necessity for a God or gods to
experience spirutuality. Spirituality is not
bound by or limited by belief in God or gods.

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=35_6Aug200110:00:06EDThugger@qwest.net 537 34 23_Re: accelerated thought11_Stan Sambey18_stambo@hotmail.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:18:07 EDT0_37_6Aug200114:18:07EDTstambo@hotmail.com 572 28 23_Re: accelerated thought9_CB Willis22_cbwillis@lightlink.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:05:27 EDT337_- > yes - well if we assume that I am well and truly an aware
> and functional spiritual being - perhaps lacking in telepathic
> endowment - but that spirit realms feature in my life style
> and modus operandii - how then do you suggest that I
> ask those angels to enhance my output or contribution ??
>
> andrew [...]41_6Aug200117:05:27EDTcbwillis@lightlink.com 601 22 23_Re: accelerated thought15_henry neal camp16_hugger@qwest.net28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:05:35 EDT559_- I would say it is the other way around. You have it backwards.

Neal

Marcus Robinson wrote:

> The mental domain (mind stuff) is but another
> expression of the spiritual domain.
>
> Marcus

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=35_6Aug200117:05:35EDThugger@qwest.net 624 18 23_Re: accelerated thought15_Marcus Robinson23_marcus@ethoschannel.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:25:00 EDT380_iso-8859-1 Right on Carol!

Marcus

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=42_6Aug200119:25:00EDTmarcus@ethoschannel.com 643 21 23_Re: accelerated thought15_Marcus Robinson23_marcus@ethoschannel.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:25:07 EDT552_- Greetings Stan,

To your point about 1+1=3D2, numbers are irrelevant
to spiritual truth. They are merely the mental scaffolding
for a more elegant spiritual reality.

Nothing is,

Marcus

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=42_6Aug200119:25:07EDTmarcus@ethoschannel.com 665 24 23_Re: accelerated thought16_Andrew Hennessey21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:10:10 EDT363_- well CB - if the world is full of ascended fully telepathic masters
their souls have to be of the direst grade of black -
for this planet is a slaughterhouse of body, mind and spirit.

obviously the planet is crammed full of degraded beings
full of the wrong sort of telepathy - if one believes
that telepathy truly exists on this world. [...]40_6Aug200121:10:10EDTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 690 39 23_Re: accelerated thought16_Andrew Hennessey21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:57:40 EDT547_- our current understanding of the philosophy of
arithmetic has it by Frege that numbers are derived
from sets of nothing - or empty sets of no substance.

I can however derive a set of eight essences, logically
complete from a 3 part metaphysics applicable to 3D
that give us:

1. wave theory/ harmonic physical theory
2. non-recursive ontology in philosophy of mind
3. a foundation of eight substantial logically complete
essences
4. solutions to Turing, Particle Wave duality and Goedels
paradox etc [...]40_6Aug200122:57:40EDTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 730 30 23_Re: accelerated thought9_CB Willis22_cbwillis@lightlink.com28_Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:57:48 EDT650_- As a professional expert intuitive and intuition trainer
for over 20 years, I'll say that all people display some
degree of telepathy, whether they're aware of it or not,
and all have vastly greater potential, whether they're
interested in developing it or not. And of the ones who
are consciously interested to whatever degree in
unfolding their intuitive abilities or potential, they may
or may not manifest good teachers, though ultimately
one does his own training. (Here's a hint: Purity of heart,
love and devotion are the easiest ways to have more
telepathy in your life. Putting yourself in dangerous
[...]41_6Aug200122:57:48EDTcbwillis@lightlink.com 761 17 23_Re: accelerated thought15_Marcus Robinson23_wetware@frontiernet.net28_Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:56:51 EDT452_- This is pretty good stuff Andrew.

No mind, no thing, only expressions of the First Cause,

Marcus

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=42_7Aug200112:56:51EDTwetware@frontiernet.net 779 20 23_Re: accelerated thought15_Marcus Robinson23_wetware@frontiernet.net28_Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:16:00 EDT616_- Don't sweat it Carol. These are really good folk
with particularly narrow views on the issues
discussed here. I think your work is right on
point and very much aligned with the general
conceptualizations of AT and the
philosophy of Project Mind.

Marcus

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=42_7Aug200113:16:00EDTwetware@frontiernet.net 800 39 23_Re: accelerated thought11_Stan Sambey18_stambo@hotmail.com28_Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:56:38 EDT633_- Hello Marcus,

>From: Marcus
>Greetings Stan,
>To your point about 1+1=3D2, numbers are irrelevant
>to spiritual truth. They are merely the mental scaffolding
>for a more elegant spiritual reality.
>Nothing is,
>Marcus

What makes it 'irrelevant'?
What is a scaffolding? A structure that allows
workers to build a thing of great size with ease.
It was an exercise in comprehension. The
numbers of course are meaningless, but the
answer is not. It exists without the numbers.
All the answers exists regardless of whether
the question has been asked.
They just are already. [...]37_7Aug200115:56:38EDTstambo@hotmail.com 840 25 23_Re: accelerated thought11_Stan Sambey18_stambo@hotmail.com28_Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:56:46 EDT463_- Hello there,

Why would a truly aware and functional spiritual
being need to communicate at all? What could
possibly be the purpose? Why this direction
towards mental communication? Do you not
think that a being of such advancement would
be above such mundane interaction? We think
telepathy because it is the highest level of
communication that we can conceive. That hardly
makes it the end all of communication possibility. [...]37_7Aug200115:56:46EDTstambo@hotmail.com 866 95 35_Re: accelerated thought & telepathy16_devor@huji.ac.il21_devor@projectmind.org30_Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:32:52 +0300453_windows-1255 B'S"D

Hi Stan et alia,

> Why would a truly aware and functional spiritual
> being need to communicate at all?
Interesting point. Such a being would, in this world of sleepwalkers,
be awake (and mostly alone). This does not mean consciousness
which is even further from where we are. Furthermore, one can be
awake (and not fully awake either) in a restricted world such as ours
for only short intervals. [...]42_8Aug200116:32:52+0300devor@projectmind.org 962 63 35_Re: accelerated thought & telepathy16_devor@huji.ac.il21_devor@projectmind.org31_Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:42:26 +0300631_windows-1255 B'S"D

Hi Kathy et alia,

> My small peeks into the 'all' have shown that communication is from
>a point of knowing 'it just is' -ALL-. There seems to be no
>divisions, non of the parameters of what is experienced as a physical
>being(this is hard to comprehend), yet one then realises the
>restrictions of thephysical.At first just totally in 'awe' of the
>experience of 'being', one also realises that the moment is all
>encompassed into the 'oneness ofall'.
>Avery simple totality that, to date I have been unable to fully
>express and comprehend in the physical, yet it is [...]43_10Aug200119:42:26+0300devor@projectmind.org 1026 24 35_Re: accelerated thought & telepathy16_Monohar A. Tilak16_matilak@usit.net29_Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:43:34 EDT563_- "The level of penetration discussed here
involves risks to mind and body which PM
has been conceived to contain." said David.

"Yes", said the spirit. "I AM what I am; the spirit of
mankind i.e. Abraham who is evolutionary. No need
to consider me localized. I am beyond time as well
as the value judgement of man. Though associated
with man, I am tied down by NO judgments, that
even 'God' is. In that sense be assured there are no
risks as I am beyond risks and fears", said Bhrugu,
not of faith but of truth and reality. [...]36_12Aug200110:43:34EDTmatilak@usit.net 1051 24 35_Re: accelerated thought & telepathy16_Andrew Hennessey21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk29_Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:13:25 EDT374_- I am tied down by NO judgments, that
> even 'God' is. In that sense be assured there are no
> risks as I am beyond risks and fears", said Bhrugu,
> not of faith but of truth and reality.

poor Bhrugu seems totally disconnected from the source
of all - for he has no discernment that God is - and commits
the sin of Lucifer, weighed down by self. [...]41_12Aug200122:13:25EDTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 1076 122 4_talk16_devor@huji.ac.il21_devor@projectmind.org31_Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:45:15 +0300384_Windows-1252 B'S"D

Dear Mochin subscribers, PM associates and friends,

The talk on the subject of “HEAVEN TOUCHING EARTH or INTEGRATING SPIRITUAL & PHYSICAL” went well last night. Two of the participants were returnees. One was a professor of philosophy of science, for the 7th time.

Next Monday's talk is:

PROJECT MIND FOUNDATION HOME LECTURE SERIES [...]43_14Aug200115:45:15+0300devor@projectmind.org 1199 65 35_Re: accelerated thought & telepathy16_Monohar A. Tilak16_matilak@usit.net29_Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:40:49 EDT467_- Shalom to all!

"At first just totally in 'awe' of the
>experience of 'being', one also realizes that the moment is
>all encompassed into the 'oneness of all'. " <-- This from
David PROJECTS the idea of unity. The SAME is in chapter
16th of Gita -- about The Very Being of Cosmos(!)
Chapter 15th in the very last stanza 20th explains that this
particular aspect of the Cosmic existence is understood only
via one's own intelligence. [...]36_15Aug200107:40:49EDTmatilak@usit.net 1265 138 22_Monday (tomorrow) talk16_devor@huji.ac.il21_devor@projectmind.org31_Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:38:24 +0300490_Windows-1252 B'S"D

Dear Associates, Mochin Subscribers and friends,

Tomorrow night's talk will be:
"WHAT DOES HASHEM EXPECT OF US"

or

"ARE WE HIS CHILDREN OR PARTNERS?"

given by: David S. Devor, Exec. Director Project Mind Foundation

in the home of David & Chana Devor

54 HaNeviim Street, Jerusalem

9:00 p.m., Monday, August 20, 2001

tel: 624-0280

(free admission, refreshments)

Next week's talk will be: [...]43_26Aug200120:38:24+0300devor@projectmind.org 1404 79 3_Fw:16_Monohar A. Tilak16_matilak@usit.net29_Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:54:41 EDT556_- Dear George Musser:
(Editor of the Journal of Astronomy).

I request you kindly to try to get the explanation in
reverence to the memory of Carl Sagan who was
quite concerned about this aspect of the change
we face BLINDLY as the title of MADDOX'S article
suggests.

This is an attempt to upgrade the nature of
response of human-intelligence commensurate
with the level of complexity that mankind faces
about which Carl Sagan was quite concerned.
This also is the sense of Project Mind ;
devor@huji.ac.il ; [...]36_30Aug200120:54:41EDTmatilak@usit.net