1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/mochin February 2001 2 104 29_Fw: MOCHIN: Moderated Message16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il30_Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:06:56 +0300740_iso-8859-8 -----Original Message-----
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>form if you decide to forward it [...]41_1Feb200114:06:56+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il 107 40 29_Re: MOCHIN: Moderated Message11_Matthew Jee22_black.sheep@virgin.net28_Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:28:07 EST490_iso-8859-8 >>QUESTION (1)
>>What is that (biblical) verse (for you)?

"That thou shalt form a net and not be me"

>>QUESTION (2)
>>What is that (general) verse (for you)?

The lyrics to the beatles song "love is all you need"

Love, Regards and Respect

Matthew Jee

I haven't a lot nor a building,
No flower, no garden, nor tree
The landlords have gobbled the country -
Let them do the fighting, not me
Celia Whitehead,
c.1900 [...]41_2Feb200108:28:07ESTblack.sheep@virgin.net 148 55 40_biblical/metaphysical gedankenexperiment17_Shawn McGillivray18_sray@beliefnet.com28_Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:28:21 EST677_- >You are being taken away to another world and are
>unable to take any possessions or communication
>channels to this old world, wherein you now sit,
>staring in disbelief
at the visual display unit.
>
>All knowledge will be lost.
>You are permitted, however, to take one fragment
>or verse from the new or old (standard judaic/christian)
>testaments. All other content, fragments, verses,
>chapters, books, references, research, knowledge,
>etc will be lost. This one verse will represent the
>only link to previous knowledge of the bible.
>
>QUESTION (1)
>What is that (biblical) verse (for you)?
>
>Same scenario as [...]37_2Feb200108:28:21ESTsray@beliefnet.com 204 29 23_Re: Only Biblical Verse14_The Hidden One21_zuhupansiva@yahoo.com28_Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:55:34 EST686_us-ascii > >All knowledge will be lost.
> >You are permitted, however, to take one fragment
> >or verse from the new or old (standard
> judaic/christian)
> >testaments.

Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of
vanities; all is vanity. - Ecclesiastes 1:2 (Temple
Edition)

Blessings;

Adanak Keteretic

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MOCHIN Digest 1130
Song of Songs: 2 v.19 ( Rashi )

"My Beloved is mine, He fills all my needs and I seek from Him
and none other. "

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> >>QUESTION (1)
> >>What is that (biblical) verse (for you)?
>
> "That thou shalt form a net and not be me"

Ohh.. .a wonderful verse.

Do you know where it's found, in scripture?

Best Buxom Blessings from Da I;

- Adanak

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------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=41_14Feb200102:48:55ESTzuhupansiva@yahoo.com 285 64 41_Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity11_Dick Boland20_richard042@yahoo.com29_Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:05:45 EST394_us-ascii Hello, My name is Dick Boland, I am new
to this list as of today.

An interesting coincidence occured. I signed
up for this list before leaving work and now
I am home and my only new email
contained the following announcement.

I live near New Haven, CT, so I will go if they
let me in. Can anyone on this list describe an
ideal "Colloquium" for me? [...]40_14Feb200118:05:45ESTrichard042@yahoo.com 350 78 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity13_Gorege Riddle21_Georger@Vm.Temple.Edu29_Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:44:18 EST422_us-ascii What sort of intelligence is required to believe that Isaac B. Singer,
Margot
Klausner, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and Colin Wilson were or are fools?

Two of these were famous Jews. All four were spiritualists

How long have intelligent Jews been philsophical lemmings, following
so-called
"scientific" pied pipers in opposition to their own deep traditions?.

Dick Boland wrote: [...]41_15Feb200100:44:18ESTGeorger@Vm.Temple.Edu 429 86 45_RE: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity47_=?us-ascii?B?LGssPywBLA0BQCxqLC4sJywNLA8sIg==?=16_kurmos@yahoo.com29_Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:53:00 EST482_us-ascii Hi Dick,

I'm not quite sure what you mean by an 'ideal' colloquium.

I can say though that just yesterday I too experienced an interesting
coincidence concerning a physics conference that happened in the UK last
month.
Still in a state of suprise I read about your experience, which leads me to
spontaneously ask if anyone on this list has an interest in Electro gravity?
Infact, is there anyone working in the field of physics in general? [...]36_15Feb200114:53:00ESTkurmos@yahoo.com 516 64 45_RE: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity11_Dick Boland20_richard042@yahoo.com29_Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:09:35 EST628_us-ascii Hello,

----Liam wrote----
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by an 'ideal' colloquium.
>
[snip]

ie.-what can I expect. What is a colloquium as oppssoed to a
lecture, seminar, talk, presentation, etc.

> I can say though that just yesterday I too experienced an interesting
> coincidence concerning a physics conference that happened in the UK last
> month.
> Still in a state of suprise I read about your experience, which leads me
to
> spontaneously ask if anyone on this list has an interest in Electro
gravity?
> Infact, is there anyone working in the field [...]40_16Feb200103:09:35ESTrichard042@yahoo.com 581 28 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity10_John E. M.20_myersj@gactr.uga.edu29_Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:09:44 EST271_iso-8859-1 > Still in a state of suprise I read about your experience, which leads me
to
> spontaneously ask if anyone on this list has an interest in Electro
gravity?

I just read THE AWESOME LIFE FORCE by Cater that was incredible and
dealt with this.40_16Feb200103:09:44ESTmyersj@gactr.uga.edu 610 50 64_POLICY and LIFE SCIENCES - "IS HUMANITY DESTINED TO.... ?"14_heiner benking17_heiner@benking.de29_Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:52:32 EST578_- Dear colleagues and friends
the new issue of PUBLIC POLICY and LIFE SCIENCES features the round-table
article of Lynton Caldwell
"IS HUMANITY DESTINED TO SELF-DESTRUCT?"
http://www.indiana.edu/~speaweb/perspectives/humanity.html

With commentators ranging from Herman E. Daly
(ecological-economics) and Mohamed Kassas (Club of Rome), Sheila Jasanoff,
Harvard University, ....

see: http://www.lssu.edu/apls/pls/contents/cnts-99s/cnts-99s.html

For me it is a pleasure and of great concern to put forward my comment:
"Show or Schau? [...]37_17Feb200113:52:32ESTheiner@benking.de 661 139 45_RE: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity47_=?us-ascii?B?LGssPywBLA0BQCxqLC4sJywNLA8sIg==?=16_kurmos@yahoo.com29_Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:52:39 EST594_us-ascii Hello,

>ie.-what can I expect. What is a colloquium as oppssoed to a
lecture, seminar, talk, presentation, etc.

ah well thats the question. I don't have an english dictionary, I almost
thought to have a look on the web for one (but not quite). My Japanese to
English dictionary offered a range of meanings from 'conference' to
'seminar' which doesn't narrow things down much, but the jist is there. I
guess if you go you'll be a veritable expert on the subject. There should be
a whole lot more to experience than just the meaning of 'colloquium'. [...]36_17Feb200113:52:39ESTkurmos@yahoo.com 801 52 29_Re: MOCHIN: Moderated Message16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:44:07 +0300403_iso-8859-8 Hi Liam and Mochin Friends,

>"What Kind of Intelligence Does it Take to Build a House of Intelligence?"
>It's an intruiging title.
>I've heard David(founder of Project Mind) say more than once that he not
>interested in a building a think tank rather in a 'mind tank'.(possibly
with
>a capital M).
>Prehaps he can illuminate us, as to what he's on about. David? [...]42_17Feb200122:44:07+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il 854 147 45_RE: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity11_Dick Boland20_richard042@yahoo.com29_Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:48:44 EST537_us-ascii Hello,

> "What Kind of Intelligence Does it Take to Build a House of Intelligence?"
>
> It's an intruiging title.

I think so too.

> As to Physics I'm no expert, certainly not in Electro Grav. More, Electro
> Grav. is something I might oneday (and this may be presuming too much) end
> up becoming an expert in. Atleast, as I consider going back to Uni to
study
> more physics, I have the feeling that those sneaky cosmic coincidences
seem
> to be guideing me in that direction. [...]40_17Feb200115:48:44ESTrichard042@yahoo.com 1002 119 45_RE: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity47_=?us-ascii?B?LGssPywBLA0BQCxqLC4sJywNLA8sIg==?=16_kurmos@yahoo.com29_Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:03:11 EST618_us-ascii >I thank you Liam for the overview, I appreciate it as I know how long it
can
take to express things concisely. I do have to say that I am familiar with
most everything you've covered. (ZPF is a new term to me, but basically
sounds like a rebirth of Einstein's Ether)

similar to the ether idea, but also different and with exerimentally
verified effects such as the casimir force and even Hawkin's Radiation.
see: http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0009036you can download a .pdf paper by
haisch and others. They show how the ZPF may be the origin of inertia as
well as gravity [...]36_18Feb200101:03:11ESTkurmos@yahoo.com 1122 39 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity0_21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk29_Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:51:29 EST382_- > SPECIAL COLLOQUIUM TO BE HELD MONDAY,
> FEBRUARY 19, 2001
> "What Kind of Intelligence Does it Take to Build a House of
> Intelligence?"

the ideal get together of minds on a planet like this should mirror the
state of the planet as if they were examining themselves in a mirror
and devise the most intelligent solution to the flaws that they perceive [...]41_19Feb200101:51:29ESTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 1162 52 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity11_Matthew Jee22_black.sheep@virgin.net29_Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:22:22 EST373_x-user-defined In reply to: "What Kind of Intelligence Does it Take to Build a House of
Intelligence?"

Andrew Hennessey writes;

>the ideal get together of minds on a planet like this should mirror the
>state of the planet as if they were examining themselves in a mirror
>and devise the most intelligent solution to the flaws that they perceive [...]42_19Feb200115:22:22ESTblack.sheep@virgin.net 1215 63 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity12_BOLIVAR PAEZ16_bopaez@yahoo.com29_Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:45:13 EST640_us-ascii i believe you stated the word "what" which translates
into "wisdom" so wisdom is needed...it is considered a
kind of intelligence....from which true intelligence
arises...
--- Matthew Jee wrote:
> In reply to: "What Kind of Intelligence Does it
> Take to Build a House of
> Intelligence?"
>
> Andrew Hennessey writes;
>
> >the ideal get together of minds on a planet like
> this should mirror the
> >state of the planet as if they were examining
> themselves in a mirror
> >and devise the most intelligent solution to the
> flaws that they perceive
[...]36_20Feb200100:45:13ESTbopaez@yahoo.com 1279 191 45_RE: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity11_Dick Boland20_richard042@yahoo.com29_Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:51:47 EST564_us-ascii Hello,

> see: http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0009036you can download a .pdf paper by
> haisch and others. They show how the ZPF may be the origin of inertia as
> well as gravity and even mass.

Scary, it jives with a pet theory of mine, I shall check this out.

> >In "parable form" - Planck accidentally plucked a
> delicious apple from
> an unseen tree, and to this day, we have yet to realize that as we consume
> and savor that
> apple, we do so under the shade of the tree it came from, not yet aware of
> [...]40_20Feb200100:51:47ESTrichard042@yahoo.com 1471 62 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity11_Dick Boland20_richard042@yahoo.com29_Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:52:48 EST418_us-ascii Hello,

> > SPECIAL COLLOQUIUM TO BE HELD MONDAY,
> > FEBRUARY 19, 2001
> > "What Kind of Intelligence Does it Take to Build a House of
> > Intelligence?"
>
> the ideal get together of minds on a planet like this should mirror the
> state of the planet as if they were examining themselves in a mirror
> and devise the most intelligent solution to the flaws that they perceive [...]40_20Feb200100:52:48ESTrichard042@yahoo.com 1534 36 45_Re: Intelligence colloqium at Yale Unviersity0_21_pegasus@easynet.co.uk29_Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:01:58 EST382_- > SPECIAL COLLOQUIUM TO BE HELD MONDAY,
> FEBRUARY 19, 2001
> "What Kind of Intelligence Does it Take to Build a House of
> Intelligence?"

the ideal get together of minds on a planet like this should mirror the
state of the planet as if they were examining themselves in a mirror
and devise the most intelligent solution to the flaws that they perceive [...]41_20Feb200112:01:58ESTpegasus@easynet.co.uk 1571 76 20_"Not a special soul"10_Kevin Cann19_kevincann@yahoo.com29_Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:02:55 EST540_us-ascii Hello,

I just wanted to respond to Dick Boland's comments
about AT research.

First off, if you read the project mind book,
you'll note that AT is thought to be the result
of a GARGANTUAN personal effort. A sort of internal
striving and focussing that rarely happens
even for instants.

In fact, the entire purpose of PM is to find
'special individuals', scientists, who with an
enormous amount of support can act as remote probes
(my words) into the realm of objective higher mind. [...]39_20Feb200112:02:55ESTkevincann@yahoo.com 1648 149 18_not a special sole9_Kathy.Cox26_kathy.cox@acsptyltd.com.au29_Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:41:05 EST431_iso-8859-1 Hi,

Firstly I am not a brain surgeon, or physist, but I have been honoured with some very interesting experiences which could support the reality of PM and that I would like to share.

"Not a special sole" - who is not a special sole, can you just take a moment to think about the energy it took for your sole, being given the gift of life, to energise the physical body. How special is that blessing! [...]46_21Feb200115:41:05ESTkathy.cox@acsptyltd.com.au 1798 11 0_0_0_29_Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:11:59 EST359_- ---Gerry McGovern

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Did you attend the colloquium?

David wrote> In contradistinction, a Mind tank (termed coined by
Rae Fishman) is a place where a person, in isolation,
is provided with conditions that allow him to connect
with Higher Mind and go into a higher creative state
akin to what Project Mind calls "Accelerated Thought."

Is this what the colloquium title called 'a house of intelligence'? [...]36_27Feb200113:34:48ESTkurmos@yahoo.com