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2 150 23_Four Points to Consider16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il30_Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:47:02 +0300449_iso-8859-1 B'S"D<br><br>Dear Mochin Friends,<br><br>It has been a while since we've had much discussion here. Below<br>are some points I invite you to consider:<br><br>1. That creativity, and particularly the higher, holistic creativity that<br>we call "Accelerated Thought" (an attribute of "Mochin D'Gadlut"),<br>is our highest spiritual faculty and that the Tikkun Olam of physical<br>(scientific) world transformation is our prime mission. [...]41_4Apr200022:47:02+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il
153 27 10_midi files12_Jan Shepherd13_jans@myna.com30_Sun, 9 Apr 2000 09:54:57 +0000537_US-ASCII Dear Mochin Friends,<br><br>We have a short .wav file which we need made into a midi file.<br>Does anyone have the capability to do this?<br><br>Also, does anyone know how we might get in contact with Michael<br>J. Fox?<br><br>All help and suggestions appreciated.<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>Blessings,<br>Jan<br><br>------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------+<br>Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Internet Consortium http://shamash.org<br>------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=34_9Apr200009:54:57+0000jans@myna.com
181 16 23_the ultimate invention?0_17_seedbed@webtv.net29_Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:25:32 EDT327_- this blows my mind.<br>what do you folks think?<br>Dave R.<br><br>http://www.imagination-engines.com/<br><br>------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------+<br>Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Internet Consortium http://shamash.org<br>------------------------- mochin@shamash.org ------------------------=37_15Apr200022:25:32EDTseedbed@webtv.net
198 297 13_Pessach Story16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:30:09 +0300477_iso-8859-1 B'S"D<br><br>Erev Pessach, 5760<br><br>Dear Mochin Friends,<br><br>For those involved in the Pessach (Passover) pilgrimage festival and for<br>any others who are sympathetic or at least curious, appended below is<br>a little story I picked up on the net that expresses an important aspect<br>of the spirit that this holiday promotes. In parallel, I am posting another<br>piece on Pessach that some of you have already seen, relating Pessach<br>to Project Mind. [...]42_19Apr200010:30:09+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il
496 579 24_Pessach and Project Mind16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:29:18 +0300714_iso-8859-1 B'S"D<br>Erev Pessach, 14 Nissan, 5760<br><br>Dear Mochin Friends,<br><br>Many of you are aware that this Wed. night (tonight) begins the festival of<br>Passover commemorating the Exodus from Egypt, 3313 years ago.<br><br>This festival, one of three (including Shavuot and Succoth), is about transformation<br>and freedom. Each Jew is expected to see himself as, personally, coming out of<br>Egypt the Hebrew word for which (Mitzrayim) indicates limitation and restriction.<br>Pharaoh, in Hebrew, is a derivative of the word "Haphra'a" meaning "disturbance" or<br>"distraction." It suggests the usual, chaotic, unmobilized state of our energy, defined<br>as impurity or "Chametz" (l'Hachmitz means [...]42_19Apr200011:29:18+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il
1076 21 27_Re: the ultimate invention?11_Owen Thomas20_othomas@cheerful.com29_Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:45:32 EDT590_- I have reviewed several of the messages linked through this site. It is<br>a serious exploration of artificial intelligence in which the inventor shows<br>how completely mechanical systems can resemble human creativity and human<br>death experiences.<br>He makes major use of noise which is generated by computer noise<br>generators but seems to have no tolerance for any idea of a deity which<br>generates perturbations in the mechanical world.<br>Careful study of his work may show an opportunity to combine Davids<br>insights with computer generated inventiveness.<br>Owen Thomas [...]40_22Apr200021:45:32EDTothomas@cheerful.com
1098 65 31_Fred Alan Wolf video on the Web12_Jan Shepherd13_jans@myna.com31_Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:13:12 +0000385_US-ASCII Greetings All,<br><br>Just posting this note to all of my friends on the<br>Quantum-Sarfatti list and others to announce the launch of my<br>new Internet portal for human development named<br>Ethoschannel.com. I've been working on the project for over a<br>year and we've only now released our work to the public.<br><br>Follow this URL link: http://www.ethoschannel.com [...]35_22Apr200022:13:12+0000jans@myna.com
1164 38 27_Re: the ultimate invention?16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:53:58 +0300659_iso-8859-8 B'S"D<br><br>Hi Owen,<br><br>> I have reviewed several of the messages linked through this site. It is<br>>a serious exploration of artificial intelligence in which the inventor<br>shows<br>>how completely mechanical systems can resemble human creativity and human<br>>death experiences.<br><br>Thanks for the alert, Owen. I am now dialoguing with Stephen.<br><br>> He makes major use of noise which is generated by computer noise<br>>generators but seems to have no tolerance for any idea of a deity which<br>>generates perturbations in the mechanical world.<br>If Stephen turns out to be right in his claims that his system of AI,<br>neural [...]42_23Apr200006:53:58+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il
1203 41 28_re: the ultimate invention ?10_Kevin Cann19_kevincann@yahoo.com29_Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:15:27 EDT681_- Warm Greetings,<br><br>I don't see the controversy here.<br><br>What is called 'human creativity' and intelligence<br>is already purely 'mechanical'.<br><br>Most people can go their entire lives without<br>having an original thought.<br><br>Unless for one reason or another, one has an<br>extra-ordinary amount of essence contact, and<br>that essence contact has been integrated into<br>the personality, then all of one's actions<br>are simply a result of the quantum unrest<br>and the interaction of various semi-standing<br>waveforms generated by superstring fragments<br>left over from the sudden deflation of 7<br>calabi-yau spaces at the moment our universe<br>budded. [...]39_23Apr200019:15:27EDTkevincann@yahoo.com
1245 43 28_Re: the ultimate invention ?16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:07:16 +0300499_iso-8859-8 Kevin,<br><br>>I don't see the controversy here.<br><br>Read my message again, more carefully this time,<br>and you'll see. The issue is cogent to say the least.<br>If it turns out that we can produce intelligence that<br>surpasses our own (yet unrevealed) highest potential,<br>most of our most fundmental beliefs would have to be<br>examined. The benchmark that I've adopted for that<br>potential is Accelerated Thought (AT) that I claim<br>corresponds to objective consciousness. [...]42_24Apr200007:07:16+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il
1289 40 26_re: the ultimate invention10_Kevin Cann19_kevincann@yahoo.com29_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:46:00 EDT479_- Dear David,<br><br>Well I certainly agree that a 'gauntlet' has<br>been thrown down for serious examination.<br><br>Insofar as my usage of the word purely, I don't<br>believe that 'true' creativity has yet to be<br>tapped, even by the likes of a Tesla, Da Vinci<br>or an Einstein - for 'true creativity' is like<br>a virus that infects the entire world, and makes<br>it a better place - not infects it with nuclear<br>weaponry or another half insane religion for example. [...]39_24Apr200015:46:00EDTkevincann@yahoo.com
1330 64 26_Re: the ultimate invention16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:59:07 +0300387_iso-8859-8 Hi Kevin,<br><br>>Insofar as my usage of the word purely, I don't<br>>believe that 'true' creativity has yet to be<br>>tapped, even by the likes of a Tesla, Da Vinci<br>>or an Einstein......<br>Yes, that is what I said although Tesla, McClintock<br>and Coleridge, with their holistic visions, certainly<br>demonstrated that creativity can go beyond the<br>spark variety. [...]42_25Apr200014:59:07+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il
1395 49 26_Re: the ultimate invention12_Mountain Man21_prfbrown@magna.com.au29_Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:11:34 EDT440_- Dear Kevin,<br><br>I stll contend that 'normal' human consciousness<br>is a miraculous thing, and understand that such<br>is but my contention, unsupported in a river of<br>contentions, some of them in alignment with<br>the firmament of academic river banks, others<br>making their own way to the semblance of some<br>oceanic awareness of terrestrial life.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Kevin Cann <kevincann@yahoo.com> [...]41_25Apr200019:11:34EDTprfbrown@magna.com.au
1445 96 32_Regarding the Ultimate Invention10_Kevin Cann19_kevincann@yahoo.com29_Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:59:27 EDT519_us-ascii Greetings.<br><br>Well I read the entire website at<br>http://www.imagination-engines.com/<br><br>It was all rather ho hum stuff, until I read his<br>theory on consciousness. That got my attention.<br>This fellows theory on consciousness is very<br>close to the one that I discuss.<br><br>Its missing the whole point of consciousness,<br>but the 90% of it that's right on target is<br>very well documented in terms of chaos theory,<br>fuzzy logic, neural networks, fractals, etc.<br>Extremely impressive. [...]39_28Apr200018:59:27EDTkevincann@yahoo.com
1542 50 39_Re: the ultimate invention - ginger ale0_18_Derasflynn@aol.com29_Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:43:21 EDT616_- <As long as this remains true, each day will become<br><progressively more dangerous and each discovery will lend<br><itself to more harm than good. Only a solid connection with<br><the transcendent providing a flood of abundance through<br><AT will neutralize negativity and change the rules all around.<br><br>what do you mean by trancedant? God<br><br>i think that someone who enjoys the possibilities of life,<br>and is objective enough to treat others in a manner that<br>they would like to be treated - which is the general mindset<br>in my opinion of successful people. i do not think these<br>kind of [...]38_29Apr200021:43:21EDTDerasflynn@aol.com
1593 93 39_Re: the ultimate invention - ginger ale16_devor@huji.ac.il20_devor@pob.huji.ac.il31_Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:50:46 +0300721_iso-8859-8 Dear Deras,<br><br>><Only a solid connection with<br>><the transcendent providing a flood of abundance through<br>><AT will neutralize negativity and change the rules all around.<br>>what do you mean by trancedant? God<br>G-d both encompasses and transcends everything including<br>the various metaphysical dimensions of existence to which, for<br>the most part, we are blind. In the most general sense, by<br>"transcendent" we usually mean "that which transcends the<br>ordinary or the physical. " The aspect of the transcendent that I<br>tried to evoke in my posting quoted partially above, goes beyond<br>the "bottom-up" subjective consciousness, self-knowledge, self-<br>effacement, cosmic expiation, [...]42_30Apr200010:50:46+0300devor@pob.huji.ac.il