1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/mail-jewish December 2007 2 356 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #91 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:53:24 -0500489_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 91 Produced: Sat Dec 1 20:53:24 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Cos Shel Bracha [Ed Goldstein] No Tachanun at a Bet Knesset in the case of a Brit [Yisrael Medad] No Tachnun at a Bris [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] Noach trivium [Yehonatan Chipman] Tachanun at Mincha (2) [Ben Katz, Rabbi Wise] Zemanim (3) [Mark Steiner, David E Cohen, Dr. William Gewirtz] Zemanim - comments on Ken Bloom [Dr. William Gewirtz] [...] 359 372 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #92 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:10:06 -0500435_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 92 Produced: Sat Dec 1 21:10:06 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Preservation of Minhag Ashkenaz [Alexander Weil] Requirement of eating at Kiddush (5) [Martin Stern, Bernard Raab, Akiva Miller, Janice Gelb, Yehonatan Chipman] Rewriting history (3) [Leah, Jonathan Baker, Dr. Ben Katz] The Sakanah Kiddush [FriedmanJ@aol.com] Vancouver? [Michael Frankel] [...] 732 415 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #93 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Mon, 3 Dec 2007 05:16:32 -0500643_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 93 Produced: Mon Dec 3 5:16:32 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Cos Shel Bracha (3) [Gershon Dubin, Perets Mett, k and a weiss] Is it motzei or mezonos [Carl Singer] Kiddushim [Batya Medad] Kugel [Rabbi Alexander Seinfeld] No Tachanun at a Bet Knesset in the case of a Brit [Martin Stern] Preservation of Minhag Ashkenaz [Martin Stern] Requirement of eating at Kiddush [Martin Stern] Rewriting history [Martin Stern] The Sakanah Kiddush [Gershon Dubin] Tachanun at Mincha [k and a weiss] Zemanim (3) [Dr. William Gewirtz, Mark Steiner, Rabbi Alexander Seinfeld] [...] 1148 367 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #94 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Tue, 4 Dec 2007 05:57:36 -0500549_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 94 Produced: Tue Dec 4 5:57:36 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Cos B'racha (2) [Menashe Elyashiv, Avi Feldblum] Kiddush [Menashe Elyashiv] Kugel Preparation [Leah S. R. Gordon] No Tachanun at a Bet Knesset in the case of a Brit [Joel Rich] Preservation of Minhag Ashkenaz [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] Questions regarding the division of the parshiyot [Simcha MacIntyre] Status of Non Jewesses having affairs with Jews [Russell Jay Hendel] Zemanim [Dr. William Gewirtz] [...] 1516 252 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #95 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Tue, 4 Dec 2007 06:28:43 -0500771_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 95 Produced: Tue Dec 4 6:28:43 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Z'manim [Michael Frankel]



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From: Michael Frankel Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:01:24 -0500 Subject: Z'manim

There are a variety of opinions on absolutely everything associated with Alos Hashshachar starting with just what is it anyway, how is it calculated, sho'os z'maniyos or not,etc. in fact, it is a far more confusing halakhic state that that attending what you might think would be its physically symmetric complement in the evening transition from daylight to darkness. some of the responses to [...] 1769 354 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #96 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Wed, 5 Dec 2007 05:15:12 -0500496_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 96 Produced: Wed Dec 5 5:15:12 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Chatan not going to Shul [k and a weiss] Cos B'racha [Gershon Dubin] Kugel Preparation [Gershon Dubin] Preservation of Minhag Ashkenaz (2) [Martin Stern, chips@eskimo.com] Sedros [Perets Mett] Status of Non Jewesses having affairs with Jews (2) [Frank Silbermann, Bernard Raab] Zemanim 'changing' [chips@eskimo.com] Zmanim Again [Dr. William Gewirtz] [...] 2124 331 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #97 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM30_Thu, 6 Dec 2007 06:15:15 -0500428_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 97 Produced: Thu Dec 6 6:15:15 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Chatan not going to Shul [Joel Rich] Frum Network [Aliza Berger-Cooper] Sedros (2) [Dr. Ben Katz, chips@eskimo.com] The sentence "yihiyu leratzon imrai phi..." printed as part of [David Ziants] Symmetry and asymmetry between the periods AH-Honetz and Sh'qioh-Tzais [Sammy Finkelman] [...] 2456 408 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #98 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:47:36 -0500577_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 98 Produced: Mon Dec 17 5:47:36 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Bentching on a Kos [Avi Feldblum] Chatan not going to Shul [k and a weiss] Convert as synagogue president [David Maslow] How quickly it gets dark [Carl Singer] Maggid of Dubno Project [David Zucker] more on kugel [Menashe Elyashiv] Sedros (2) [Jonathan Baker, SBA] Selichos Nusach (2) [David Ziants, SBA] The sentence "yihiyu leratzon imrai phi..." [Elhanan Adler] Sidrah division [Shmuel Himelstein] Zemanin [Dr. William Gewirtz] [...] 2865 331 30_mail-jewish Vol. 55 #99 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:58:55 -0500383_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 55 Number 99 Produced: Mon Dec 17 5:58:54 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Beit Din [Mordechai Horowitz] Chatan not going to Shul [Daniel Geretz] Frum Network (2) [SBA, Mordechai Horowitz] The Frum Network [Chaim Shapiro] Is it Motzei or Mezonos [Tal Benschar] Keviat sedua [Eitan Fiorino] Selichos Nusach [SBA] [...] 3197 395 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #01 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:33:38 -0500502_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 01 Produced: Tue Dec 18 5:33:38 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Beit Din [Martin Stern] Chatan not going to Shul [JRich@Sibson.com] Frum First [Irwin Weiss] The Frum Network [Chaim Shapiro] Frum only, frum first [Carl Singer] Hashgacha on Restaurant Open on Shabbos [Nachman Yaakov Ziskind] Selichos Nusach (4) [Martin Stern, Shayna Kravetz, Martin Stern, Alex Heppenheimer] Shame of bet din situation [Joseph Ginzberg] [...] 3593 262 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #02 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:10:07 -0500740_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 02 Produced: Tue Dec 18 6:10:07 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Convert as synagogue president (4) [Alex H., Dr. Josh Backon, Michael Frankel, Batya Medad]



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From: Alex H. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:25:51 -0600 Subject: RE: Convert as synagogue president

David E. Maslow reports... > The National Council of Young Israel has issued (or re-issued) a ruling > that a convert cannot be president of an affiliated Young Israel > congregation, but has provided minimal justification. > > What is the halachic basis for this ruling? Are there responsa [...] 3856 377 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #03 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:13:02 -0500482_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 03 Produced: Fri Dec 21 5:13:02 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Bet Din [rubin20@juno.com] Convert as synagogue choirmaster [Jonathan Baker] Convert as synagogue president (4) [Leonard Paul, Martin Stern, Daniel Geretz, Shimon Lebowitz] The Frum Network (2) [Saul Lieberman, Chaim Shapiro] Frum only, frum first (2) [Joel Rich, Bernard Raab] Hashgacha of restaurant open on shabbat [Richard Schultz] [...] 4234 361 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #04 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:32:04 -0500516_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 04 Produced: Fri Dec 21 5:32:04 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Avoiding Tachanun (2) [Alex Herrera, k and a weiss] Shemittah 5768 [Joseph Ginzberg] Z'manim again [Michael Frankel] Z'manim, +length of twilight with latitude [Michael Frankel]



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From: Alex Herrera Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:37:12 -0600 Subject: Avoiding Tachanun [...] 4596 295 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #05 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:43:08 -0500538_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 05 Produced: Fri Dec 21 6:43:08 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Bentching on a Kos [chips@eskimo.com] Convert as synagogue president [Sammy Finkelman] Converts/women as Synagogue President [Esther and Aryeh Frimer] Frum firsters (2) [Richard Schultz, Avi Feldblum] Hashgacha on Restaurant Open on Shabbos [Carl Singer] Looking for someone [Gershon Dubin] Second Avenue Deli [Eric Mack ] Sedros [chips@eskimo.com] Truma/Masar & the borders of israel [ZH B] [...] 4892 358 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #06 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:37:45 -0500425_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 06 Produced: Sun Dec 23 10:37:45 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Avoiding Tachanun [Joel Rich] Convert as synagogue president [David Riceman] sh'roroh? s'roroh! [Michael Frankel] Symmetry and asymmetry between the periods AH-Honetz and Sh'qioh-T [Akiva Miller] Tahanun [Shalom Carmy] Zemanim [Dr. William Gewirtz] Z'manim again [Akiva Miller] [...] 5251 343 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #07 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:45 -0500442_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 07 Produced: Sun Dec 23 20:39:45 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Hashgacha on Restaurant Open on Shabbos (2) [Shoshana L. Boublil, Joel Rich] Reliable supervision (or lack thereof) of 2nd Ave Deli [Eitan Fiorino] Symmetry and asymmetry between the periods AH-Honetz and Sh'qioh-T [Martin Stern] Truma/Masar & the borders of israel (2) [Shimon S., Chana Luntz] [...] 5595 361 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #08 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:24:40 -0500454_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 08 Produced: Sun Dec 23 21:24:40 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Convert as synagogue president (2) [Leonard Paul, chips@eskimo.com] Frum First Network (5) [Joshua Goldmeier, Chaim Shapiro, Ira Bauman, Richard Schultz, Ed Greenberg] Symmetry and asymmetry between the periods AH-Honetz and Sh'qioh-T [David Riceman] Tahanun [Alex Herrera] Z'manim again [chips@eskimo.com] [...] 5957 340 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #09 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:41:15 -0500492_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 09 Produced: Mon Dec 24 10:41:15 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Atomic clocks [Bernard Raab] Frum First Network (6) [Joshua Goldmeier, Sarah Beck, Yehudah Prero, Meir Shinnar, Avraham Friedenberg, Bernard Raab]



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From: Bernard Raab Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:47:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Atomic clocks [...] 6298 372 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #10 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:03:52 -0500603_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 10 Produced: Mon Dec 24 15:03:52 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Convert as Synagogue President (3) [Mordechai Horowitz, Russell Jay Hendel, Robert A. Book] Converts/women as Synagogue President [I. Balbin] Intermarriage, Assimilation and Responsibilities of Non Jewish women [Russell Jay Hendel]



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From: Mordechai Horowitz Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:32:05 -0500 Subject: Convert as Synagogue President [...] 6671 363 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #11 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:47:18 -0500504_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 11 Produced: Mon Dec 24 16:47:18 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Frum First (2) [Joshua Goldmeier, Joshua Goldmeier] Kosher Restaurants Open on Shabbos [Ben] Second Ave. Deli (2) [Orrin Tilevitz, Sarah Beck] Sunrise [k and a weiss] Symmetry and asymmetry between the periods AH-Honetz and [Ira L. Jacobson] Tithing Produce from Israel [Mark Steiner] Truma/Masar & the borders of israel (2) [Dr. Josh Backon, Akiva Miller] [...] 7035 336 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #12 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:07:47 -0500491_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 12 Produced: Tue Dec 25 6:07:47 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Exact Time of Zemanim [Martin Stern] Intermarriage, Assimilation and Responsibilities of Non Jewish [Janice Gelb] shiurim [Dr. William Gewirtz] Tithing Produce from Israel (2) [Mark Steiner, chips@eskimo.com] Truma/Masar & the borders of israel [Leah Aharoni] Zemanim on high [Dr. William Gewirtz] Z'manim again, and again and [Michael Frankel] [...] 7372 292 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #13 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:53:41 -0500744_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 13 Produced: Tue Dec 25 20:53:41 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Frum First Network (4) [Meir Shinnar, Carl Singer, Rise Goldstein, Frank Silbermann] The Frum Network [Chaim Shapiro]



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From: Meir Shinnar Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:37:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Frum First Network

Joshua Goldmeier, on the basis of his experience as a frum retailer, complained that many frum people deliberately boycott frum businesses, and that frum first is needed to overcome this bias. He says that many even drive farther in order to avoid the frum businesses. [...] 7665 379 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #14 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:16 -0500510_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 14 Produced: Tue Dec 25 21:13:16 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

The 9-man minyan [Orrin Tilevitz] Convert as Shul President [Orrin Tilevitz] Hebrew term for Sunrise [Jack Gross] Redemption of Captives [Annice Grinberg] Tahanun [Martin Stern] Tithing Produce from Israel (2) [Akiva Miller, Dov Bloom] Trumot/maasort [Harry Weiss] Zemanin: Accuracy vs Approximation [Russell J Hendel] Z'manim again, and again and [Bernard Raab] [...] 8045 320 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #15 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:13:27 -0500634_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 15 Produced: Thu Dec 27 20:13:27 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Intermarriage, Assimilation and Non Jewish Female Resonsibility [Russell J Hendel] Intermarriage, Assimilation and Responsibilities of Non Jewish women [Frank Silbermann] Redemption of Captives [Dr. Josh Backon] Tahanun [Yehonatan Chipman]



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From: Russell J Hendel Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 08:17:20 -0500 Subject: Intermarriage, Assimilation and Non Jewish Female Resonsibility [...] 8366 357 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #16 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:29:18 -0500368_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 16 Produced: Thu Dec 27 20:29:18 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

The Frum Network [Martin Stern] Frum Network [Menashe Elyashiv] Hanetz; Henetz [Yisrael Medad] Hanetz or Henetz Hebrew term for Sunrise [Gilad J. Gevaryahu] Linked In Frum Network [Kenneth B Posy] Tachanun [Alex Herrera] [...] 8724 324 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #17 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:09:18 -0500603_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 17 Produced: Thu Dec 27 21:09:18 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

62 Israel related YouTube videos [Jacob Richman] Anointing with Lotions on Shabbat [David Curwin] Congratulations to the New Olim and 353 pictures posted online [Jacob Richman] The equinoxes [Bernard Katz] Hebrew Term for Sunrise (2) [Michael Frankel, Martin Stern] Tithing Produce from Israel [Mark Steiner] Wine and Shmittah [Steven Oppenheimer] zemanim - a detail [Dr. Willaim Gewirtz] Zmanim - time of candle lighting for shabbat [Aliza Berger-Cooper] [...] 9049 321 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #18 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:38:36 -0500534_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 18 Produced: Mon Dec 31 17:38:36 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Characteristics of Frum businesses [Carl Singer] Frum First - An Israeli Perspective [David Curwin] Frum First Network [Chana Luntz] Frum Network in Israel [Stu Pilichowski]



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From: Carl Singer Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:45:06 -0500 Subject: Characteristics of Frum businesses [...] 9371 399 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #19 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:59:52 -0500587_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 19 Produced: Mon Dec 31 17:59:52 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

62 Israel related YouTube videos [Ira L. Jacobson] Anointing with Lotions on Shabbat (5) [David Curwin, Akiva Miller, Ira L. Jacobson, Dr. Josh Backon, Alex Heppenheimer] More videos of Israel on YouTube [Nathan Hartman] Nazi comparisons [Mordechai Horowitz] Sunrise Minyan [Dov Teichman] Tachanun Depressed [Yisrael Medad] Tahanun [Joseph Ginzberg] Wine and Shmittah [Saul Mashbaum] Z'manim - Two floors of a tall building. [David Ziants] [...] 9771 348 30_mail-jewish Vol. 56 #20 Digest12_Avi Feldblum22_feldblum@EGPS.EGPS.COM31_Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:43:28 -0500556_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 56 Number 20 Produced: Mon Dec 31 18:43:28 EST 2007



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Intermarriage, Assimilation and Non Jewish Female Responsibility (5) [Alex Heppenheimer, Keith Bierman, Akiva Miller, Janice Gelb, Russell J Hendel]



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From: Alex Heppenheimer Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:36:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Intermarriage, Assimilation and Non Jewish Female Responsibility [...]