1 SHAMASH.ORG /usr/www/wwwhc/listserv/archives/mail-jewish August 2005 2 385 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #26 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 1 Aug 2005 06:30:01 -0400570_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 26 Produced: Mon Aug 1 6:30:01 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Administrative Idea (5) [Janice Gelb, Bernard Raab, Sam Gamoran, Ari Trachtenberg, Caela Kaplowitz] Competition [Aryeh Gielchinsky] Congratulations to another group of new olim [Jacob Richman] New Israeli Educational Stamps Posted Online [Jacob Richman] Reality really bites/How we teach our kids. [Jeanette Friedman] The State of Jewish Education [Carl A. Singer] Urgent plea for liver transplant [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] [...] 388 402 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #27 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 1 Aug 2005 06:46:38 -0400645_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 27 Produced: Mon Aug 1 6:46:38 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Aramaic [Ira Bauman] Cellphones [David Charlap] Credit cards for shul dues [Anonymous] Family splitting for summer [Eliezer Wenger] gederot (g'derot) vs. gedarim (g'darim) [Ira L. Jacobson] The Husband Being Absent/Away from the Family [Yisrael Medad] Kaddish Minhag Chabad (3) [Meir, Eliezer Wenger, Elazar M. Teitz] Kashrus Question [Andy Goldfinger] Memoirs of 19th c. Vilna and Radziner Rebbe [Shuanoach@aol.com] More on Hitpael, correction [Ira L. Jacobson] Qaddish Pronunciation [Martin Stern] [...] 791 361 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #28 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:00:19 -0400418_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 28 Produced: Mon Aug 1 7:00:19 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Frum and Gay (5) [David I. Cohen, Akiva Miller, Eliyahu Shiffman, Ari Trachtenberg, Jeanette Friedman] Linguistics ad absurdum (2) [Ira L. Jacobson, Martin Stern] Polygamy (was Frum and Gay) [Martin Stern] Reason for Prohibition [was: Frum and Gay] [Lipman Phillip Minden] [...] 1153 375 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #29 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Tue, 2 Aug 2005 04:55:41 -0400499_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 29 Produced: Tue Aug 2 4:55:41 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Aramaic [Richard Schultz] Aramaic, Systematically [Allen Gerstl] New Teachers and Jewish Education [Chaim Shapiro] The State of Jewish Education (2) [Frank Silbermann, Chaim Tatel] Teacher behavior [Andy Goldfinger] Teacher Quality in Jewish Day Schools [Leah S. Gordon] Teachers who throw kids out of class/Jewish educational systems [Ari Trachtenberg] [...] 1529 399 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #30 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:10:47 -0400512_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 30 Produced: Tue Aug 2 5:10:46 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Aaron of Starosselje [Yisrael Medad] Administrative Idea [Akiva Miller] Cellphones (3) [Carl A. Singer, Mike Gerver, Bernard Raab] Family Splitting [Menashe Elyashiv] Kaddish Pronounciation [David Curwin] PETA [Andy Goldfinger] Pidyon HaBen [Danmim@aol.com] Polygamy [Nathan Lamm] Qaddish Pronunciation [Ira L. Jacobson] Threatening to do what one may not do. [Meir] [...] 1929 374 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #31 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:42:49 -0400416_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 31 Produced: Tue Aug 2 5:42:49 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Frum and Gay (3) [Freda B Birnbaum, Orrin Tilevitz, Bernard Raab] Homophobe [Art Sapper] Homosexuality and halacha (2) [Janice Gelb, Avi Feldblum] Pressure to Get Married [Russell Jay Hendel] Sexual preferences hard wired [Russell Jay Hendel] Who is a Family [Mordechai] [...] 2304 378 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #32 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Wed, 3 Aug 2005 05:42:27 -0400392_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 32 Produced: Wed Aug 3 5:42:27 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Frum and Gay (4) [Gershon Dubin, Rise Goldstein, Tom Buchler, Martin Stern] Marrying Gay? No! [Menashe Elyashiv] Polygamy (was Frum and Gay) [Meir] Secular ethics v. Judaism [Orrin Tilevitz] What is family - synagogue definitions [Carl A. Singer] [...] 2683 407 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #33 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Wed, 3 Aug 2005 05:58:24 -0400577_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 33 Produced: Wed Aug 3 5:58:24 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Aramaic [Akiva Miller] Candle Lighting After Childbirth. [Immanuel Burton] Licensing of teachers in Jewish schools [Josh Backon] Pidyon haBen (3) [Stephen Phillips, Elazar M. Teitz, Allan Lehmann] Polygamy (2) [Frank Silbermann, Gilad J. Gevaryahu] Pressure to Get Married (3) [Martin Stern, Elazar M. Teitz, Russell Jay Hendel] Qaddish Pronunciation (5) [Martin Stern, Ira L. Jacobson, Martin Stern, Ira L. Jacobson, Martin Stern] [...] 3091 403 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #34 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Wed, 3 Aug 2005 06:08:33 -0400636_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 34 Produced: Wed Aug 3 6:08:33 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

34 educational websites about Tisha B'Av [Jacob Richman] Aramaic [Jack Gross] Gay and Frum [Frank Silbermann] Homophobe [Lipman Phillip Minden] Kaddish Minhag Chabad [Anonymous] Kaddish Pronounciation (an issue of time) [Gilad J. Gevaryahu] Polygamy [Jack Gross] Previous Texts [Yisrael & Batya Medad] Sex vs. Gender - terminology [Aliza Berger] Tehinnat Ha-Nashim Le-Vinyan Ha-Mikdash [Yael Levine] Threatening to do what one may not do. [David Charlap] Tumtum, Aylonit, etc [Martin Stern] [...] 3495 431 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #35 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:11:20 -0400612_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 35 Produced: Thu Aug 4 6:11:20 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Brich Shmei [Alan Rubin] Candle Lighting After Childbirth (3) [Naomi Kingsley, Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz, Gershon Dubin] Kaddish Pronounciation (an issue of time) [David and Toby Curwin] Mishebayrach for the Isha Hayoledets [Ari Trachtenberg] Pidyon haBen [Ari Trachtenberg] Polygamy (4) [Martin Stern, Mark Steiner, Dov Teichman, Andy Goldfinger] Previous Texts (2) [Ben Katz, Lipman Phillip Minden] Randy Cohen [Goldfinger, Andy] Shaliach for bris [Joseph Ginzberg] [...] 3927 365 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #36 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:35:52 -0400426_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 36 Produced: Thu Aug 4 6:35:51 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Exemption of annus [Matthew Pearlman] Frum and Gay [Becky] Gay vs Child Molestors [Chaim Shapiro] Homosexuality and Genetics [Orrin Tilevitz] Homosexuality/Yichud [Dov Teichman] Making a distinction between gay men and lesbians [Lisa Liel] Marriage of a rape victim [Bernard Raab] [...] 4293 368 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #37 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:45:14 -0400444_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 37 Produced: Thu Aug 4 6:45:14 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Chabad Kadeishim [Michael Mirsky] Kaddish Minhag Chabad (2) [Martin Stern, Tom Buchler] More olim pictures and why do I post them [Jacob Richman] Polygamy [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] Pressure to buy: Coveting [Shalom Carmy] Tumtum, Aylonit, etc [ben katz] Your Minhag in our Place [Menashe Elyashiv] [...] 4662 398 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #38 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:52:24 -0400598_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 38 Produced: Thu Aug 4 20:52:24 EDT 2005



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Another Pidyon-ha-Ben Question [Leah S. Gordon] come-and-hear.com: avoid it like the plague (3) [Art Werschulz, Perry Zamek, Nathan Lamm] Making Threats you dont intend to keep [Russell Jay Hendel] Marriage of a rape victim [Perry Zamek] Mishebayrach for the Isha Yoledet [Martin Stern] Pidyon haBen [Immanuel Burton] Polygamy and the rabbis of the Talmud [David Curwin] Pressure to Get Married (3) [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz, Meir, Russell Jay Hendel] [...] 5061 435 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #39 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 8 Aug 2005 05:11:57 -0400407_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 39 Produced: Mon Aug 8 5:11:57 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Child Molesters [R E Sternglantz] Family Membership [Eliyahu Shiffman] Family Membership and Homosexuals [Orrin Tilevitz] Frum and Gay [Meir] gender and sex [Orrin Tilevitz] Hard-wired sexuality? [Sammy Finkelman] Partnering as a basic human need [Akiva Miller] [...] 5497 417 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #40 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 8 Aug 2005 05:31:23 -0400505_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 40 Produced: Mon Aug 8 5:31:23 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Brich Shmei (6) [David Curwin, Dan Rabinowitz, Joshua Hosseinof, Martin Stern, Stephen Phillips, shuanoach@aol.com] Nusach Ashkenaz [Carl A. Singer] Pidyon HaBen [Arie] Pidyon Haben (was: Shaliach for bris) [Perry Zamek] Pidyon-ha-Ben Question (3) [Susan Shapiro, Jechezkel Frank, Martin Stern] Previous Texts [Eitan Fiorino] Visitors in shul [Carl A. Singer] [...] 5915 379 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #41 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 8 Aug 2005 05:46:19 -0400559_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 41 Produced: Mon Aug 8 5:46:19 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Candle Lighting After Childbirth. [Simon Wanderer] Common Sense Compromise? [Yeshaya Halevi] Disengagement Ethics [Ari Trachtenberg] Family splitting for the summer [Tobias Robison] Polygamy (2) [Harry Weiss, Shimon Lebowitz] Polygamy and the rabbis of the Talmud [Martin Stern] Pressure to Get Married (3) [Elazar M. Teitz, Ari Trachtenberg, Tom Buchler] Tisha B'Av Program [Lectures] V'lamalshinim [Nathan Lamm] [...] 6295 383 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #42 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Mon, 8 Aug 2005 06:01:13 -0400517_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 42 Produced: Mon Aug 8 6:01:13 EDT 2005



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Aveil as Unwanted Sheliach Tzibur [Orrin Tilevitz] Competing with free [Tobias Robison] getting hold of a Nordlicht tape in Israel? [Lawrence Feldman] Institut Asher, Bex (Switzerland) [Bernard Geller] Qaddish Pronunciation (5) [Ira L. Jacobson, Martin Stern, Ira L. Jacobson, Martin Stern, Ira L. Jacobson] story re. minyan during WWI truce - sources? [Lawrence Feldman] [...] 6679 440 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #43 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Tue, 9 Aug 2005 04:54:35 -0400676_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 43 Produced: Tue Aug 9 4:54:35 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

An Aramaic answer [Yeshaya Halevi] Aveil as Unwanted Sheliach Tzibur (2) [Gershon Dubin, Carl Singer] Barking dogs [Perets Mett] Brich Shemay [Nathan Lamm] Candle Lighting by a Yoldes [Perets Mett] Davening for Amud [Shmuel Himelstein] Gabbai's Guide to Yamim Nora'im Prayers [Shmuel Himelstein] Kedushah (was: Visitors in Shule) [Perry Zamek] meaning of `Yotzeir` [chips@eskimo.com] Polygamy [Mark Steiner] Responses to distorting quotes from Talmud [David Prins] Talmudic abuse of women [Joseph Ginzberg] WWI Truce [Nathan Lamm] [...] 7120 370 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #44 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Tue, 9 Aug 2005 05:23:58 -0400569_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 44 Produced: Tue Aug 9 5:23:58 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Gay Child Molestation (2) [Mordechai, Avi Feldblum] Gender and Sex (2) [Meir, Avi Feldblum] Hard-wired sexuality? (2) [Bernard Raab, Tom Buchler] Sexual Imprinting? [Leah S. Gordon] Sexual preferences hard wired [Fen]



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From: Mordechai Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:44:21 -0400 Subject: Gay Child Molestation [...] 7491 360 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #45 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG30_Tue, 9 Aug 2005 05:31:43 -0400490_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 45 Produced: Tue Aug 9 5:31:43 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Aveil as Unwanted Sheliach Tzibur [Martin Stern] Borders of Israel [David Charlap] Disengagement ethics [Eliyahu Shiffman] Disengagement Ethics [David Charlap] Making Threats you dont intend to keep [Meir] Polygamy [Emmanuel Ifrah] Pressure to get Married [Russell Jay Hendel] Tune for "Eli Tziyon" [David Cohen] Visitors in shul [Bernard Raab] [...] 7852 368 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #46 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 10 Aug 2005 04:51:02 -0400515_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 46 Produced: Wed Aug 10 4:51:01 EDT 2005



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an Aramaic answer [Elazar M. Teitz] Borders of Israel [Frank Silbermann] Brich Shmeih on Shabbat [Joshua Hosseinof] Davening "For" the Amud [Jeanette Friedman] Hiuv [Menashe Elyashiv] Out of Israel [Menashe Elyashiv] Pidyon HaBen [Fenella] Visitors in shul (2) [Jeffrey Kaufman, Martin Stern] WWI and Jewish soldiers [Shalom Carmy] WWI Truce [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] [...] 8221 357 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #47 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 10 Aug 2005 04:58:03 -0400419_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 47 Produced: Wed Aug 10 4:58:02 EDT 2005



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Gay Child Molestation (3) [R E Sternglantz, Lisa Liel, Tom Buchler] Gender and Sex [Lisa Liel] Good point about the word Jew [Jeanette Friedman] "Jew" [Shayna Kravetz] Sexual Imprinting? [Shoshana Ziskind] Statistics (was: Sexual preferences hard wired) [Freda B Birnbaum] [...] 8579 318 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #48 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:16:29 -0400476_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 48 Produced: Wed Aug 10 5:16:29 EDT 2005



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Disengagement ethics (3) [Yisrael Medad, Arie, ERSherer@aol.com] Gender and Sex [Orrin Tilevitz] Jew, Jewish, and Jewess (was: Gender and Sex) [Mike Gerver] Personal Status / Polygamy [Leah S. Gordon] Polygamy and the rabbis of the Talmud [Sammy Finkelman] Visitors in Shul [Orrin Tilevitz] Yoledet Lighting Candles [Batya Medad] [...] 8898 423 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #49 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:50:33 -0400581_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 49 Produced: Thu Aug 11 4:50:33 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Brich Shmeih on Shabbat [Stephen Phillips] Chassidic Stories [Shuanoach@aol.com] "For" the Amud [Rabbi Edward Goldstein] Jews and "ogresses" [Yeshaya Halevi] Jews in German army [Shalom Carmy] Jews in WWI [Nathan Lamm] Pidyon HaBen (2) [Ben Katz, Nathan Lamm] Seperation of Church and State (4) [Jeanette Friedman, Ed Greenberg, Chaim Shapiro, Michael Kahn] Visitors in shul (4) [Martin Stern, Carl Singer, Akiva Miller, Michael Kahn] [...] 9322 388 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #50 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:14:46 -0400547_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 50 Produced: Thu Aug 11 5:14:46 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Correction - Personal Status [Leah S. Gordon] Disengagement ethics [Eliyahu Shiffman] Gender and Sex [Art Sapper] Personal attacks and homosexuality as a threat to family [Mordechai] Personal Status [Orrin Tilevitz] Personal Status / Polygamy (3) [Martin Stern, Nathan Lamm, Chaim Shapiro] Pictures of the Prayer Rally at the Kotel [Jacob Richman] Polygamy and the rabbis of the Talmud [Martin Stern] [...] 9711 280 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #51 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:38:23 -0400555_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 51 Produced: Thu Aug 11 6:38:23 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

an Aramaic answer (2) [Ari Trachtenberg, Elazar M. Teitz] Family splitting for summer [Chana Luntz] Personal Status / Polygamy [Martin Stern] Visitors in shul (3) [Martin Stern, Martin Stern, Martin Stern]



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From: Ari Trachtenberg Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:58:32 -0400 Subject: Re: an Aramaic answer [...] 9992 404 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #52 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:45:12 -0400552_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 52 Produced: Thu Aug 11 21:45:12 EDT 2005



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an Aramaic answer [Reuben Rudman] Homosexuality: how to act vs. what to think [Sarah Beck] Kavodike Davening (was Visitors in shul) [Reuben Rudman] Personal Attack [R E Sternglantz] Personal attacks and homosexuality as a threat to family [Eitan Fiorino] Separation of Church and State (3) [Lisa Liel, Lisa Liel, Lisa Liel] Visitors in shul (4) [Nahum Hurvitz, Menashe Elyashiv, Carl Singer, Carl Singer] [...] 10397 320 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #54 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:50:08 -0400510_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 54 Produced: Fri Aug 12 6:50:08 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Bigoted Postings (2) [Mordechai, Avi Feldblum] Brich Shmei [Yisrael & Batya Medad] Notice to Visitors in shul [Baruch J. Schwartz] Sins and Sinners [Akiva Miller]



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From: Mordechai Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:06:17 -0400 Subject: Bigoted Postings [...] 10718 408 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #53 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:44:33 -0400556_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 53 Produced: Mon Aug 15 5:44:33 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

An Aramaic Answer [Charles Halevi] Chassidic Stories [Jeanette Friedman] Correction - Personal Status [Art Werschulz] Jews and "ogresses" (2) [Akiva Miller, Charles Halevi] Language... and Pidyon-ha-Ben [Leah S. Gordon] Marriage Status in another Jurisdiction [Irwin Weiss] Separation of Church and State (3) [Bernard Raab, Ari Trachtenberg, Charles Halevi] Visitors in shul (2) [Gershon Dubin, Gershon Dubin] [...] 11127 386 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #55 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:02:41 -0400662_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 55 Produced: Mon Aug 15 6:02:41 EDT 2005



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Chassidic Stories [Eliezer Wenger] Customs of the Place - Minhag HaMakom [Shmuel Himelstein] Documentary hypothesis [Shayna Kravetz] Jackets for Tefillah [S. Wise] kosher food, restaurants and shuls in Italy and Greece [Mike Gerver] Pictures of Tisha B'Av in Gaza [Jacob Richman] Pidyon HaBen [Shimon Lebowitz] Pidyon Haben [Stuart Cohnen] Separation of Church and State [Chaim Shapiro] Separation of Church and State in America [Frank Silbermann] Visitors, chiyuvim, and nightmare shelichei tzibur [Orrin Tilevitz] [...] 11514 344 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #56 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:45:37 -0400525_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 56 Produced: Mon Aug 15 6:45:37 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Bigoted posting (2) [Eitan Fiorino, Mordechai] Jews and Jewesses (2) [Edward Ehrlich, charles halevi] Separation of Church and State (2) [Arnold E. Resnicoff, Nadine Bonner]



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From: Eitan Fiorino Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:52:09 -0400 Subject: RE: Bigoted posting [...] 11859 368 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #57 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:34:31 -0400541_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 57 Produced: Wed Aug 17 5:34:31 EDT 2005



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Chassidic Stories (3) [Shoshana Ziskind, Shimon Lebowitz, Jeanette Friedman] Customs of the Place- Minhag haMakom [Irwin Weiss] -ess Words [Nathan Lamm] Jackets for Tefillah (3) [Joel Rich, Martin Stern, Bill Bernstein] Minhag haMakom [Carl A. Singer] Pidyon HaBen [Shimon Lebowitz] Separation of Church and State [Martin Stern] Visitors, chiyuvim, and nightmare shelichei tzibur [Martin Stern] [...] 12228 405 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #58 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:56:21 -0400537_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 58 Produced: Wed Aug 17 5:56:20 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Blackberries [Immanuel Burton] Chassidic stories [Art Werschulz] Church and State- Perspective [Nathan Lamm] Jews and Jewesses [Frank Silbermann] Language... and Pidyon-ha-Ben [Martin Stern] Pidyon Haben Certificate, Party [Nathan Lamm] Pidyon-ha-Ben (2) [Gershon Dubin, Art Werschulz] Separation of Church and State [Chaim Shapiro] Separation of Church and State in America [David Charlap] [...] 12634 372 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #59 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 18 Aug 2005 04:54:28 -0400456_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 59 Produced: Thu Aug 18 4:54:28 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

An Aramaic Answer [Ben Katz] Chassidic Stories [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] Jackets for Tefillah (6) [Stuart Pilichowski, Ben Katz, Charles Halevi, Akiva Miller, Yisrael Medad, Joseph Ginzberg] Jews and "ogresses" [Shayna Kravetz] Separation of Church and State [Lisa Liel] Tisha B'Av in Gaza [Ari Trachtenberg] [...] 13007 365 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #60 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:03:13 -0400456_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 60 Produced: Thu Aug 18 5:03:13 EDT 2005



Subjects Discussed In This Issue:

Bigoted posting (2) [Lisa Liel, Tom Buchler] Separation of Church and State : Bad for the Jews?? [Leah S. Gordon]



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From: Lisa Liel Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:41:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Bigoted posting [...] 13373 377 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #61 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:14:12 -0400505_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 61 Produced: Thu Aug 18 5:14:12 EDT 2005



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Chassidic Story [Batya Medad] Customs of the Place- Minhag haMakom (5) [Stuart Pilichowski, Mark Symons, Gershon Dubin, Martin Stern, Tom Buchler] Dibur hamatchil (2) [bdcohen@optonline.net, David Curwin] "Jewess" [Arnie Kuzmack] Jews and "ogresses" [Janice Gelb] Mezuzah Question [Joshua Hosseinof] Pidyon Haben [Aliza Berger] Volume of tephilah [Evan Rock] [...] 13751 393 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #62 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:53:18 -0400488_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 62 Produced: Thu Aug 18 5:53:18 EDT 2005



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Eruv question [Allan Baumgarten] Establishment Clause [Carl A. Singer] J/J Campaign [Andy Goldfinger] Language... and Pidyon-ha-Ben [Art Werschulz] Pidyon habein [Perets Mett] Pidyon-ha-Ben (2) [David Maslow, Martin Stern] Separation of Church and State (6) [Tom Buchler, Michael Kahn, Michael Kahn, Bernard Raab, Mike Gerver, David Charlap] [...] 14145 393 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #63 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:00:49 -0400483_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 63 Produced: Mon Aug 22 6:00:49 EDT 2005



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Customs of the Place- Minhag haMakom [Joel Rich] Jackets (and Hats) for Tefilah (2) [Dov Teichman, Chaim Tabasky] Jackets for Tefillah (8) [Mike Gerver, Shmuel Himelstein, Gershon Dubin, Aliza Berger, Arie, Martin Stern, Martin Stern, Martin Stern] Jackets in shul and Minhag haMakom [Carl A. Singer] Volume of Tephilla [Carl A. Singer] [...] 14539 398 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #64 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:15:23 -0400490_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 64 Produced: Mon Aug 22 6:15:23 EDT 2005



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Berakha [Yehoshua Steinberg] bet resh kaf [Ira L. Jacobson] Blackberries (2) [Perets Mett, Chaim Shapiro] Chassidic Stories [Shuanoach@aol.com] J/J Campaign (6) [Harry Weiss, Chaim Shapiro, Janet R., Iris Engelson, Shayna Kravetz, Janice Gelb] Some good news during these hard times [Jacob Richman] Tisha Baav and WW 1 revisted [Chaim Shapiro] [...] 14938 370 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #65 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 23 Aug 2005 05:03:52 -0400587_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 65 Produced: Tue Aug 23 5:03:52 EDT 2005



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Dibur hamatchil [Martin Stern] Forceps Vaginal Delivery and PHB [Leah S. Gordon] Honesty [Anonymous] Impurity Conundrum [Yisrael Medad] Is this meat? Is this kosher? [Art Werschulz] Jewess [Sam Gamoran] Language... and Pidyon-ha-Ben (2) [Martin Stern, Leah S. Gordon] Learning on Tisha b'av [RYehoshua@aol.com] Mezuzah Question (2) [Jeanette Friedman, Harold Greenberg] Noisy davenning [Martin Stern] Teaching sefer Shoftim [Bill Bernstein] [...] 15309 341 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #66 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 23 Aug 2005 05:15:31 -0400417_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 66 Produced: Tue Aug 23 5:15:31 EDT 2005



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Church and State [Nathan Lamm] Jefferson and the wall. [Chaim Shapiro] Napoleon and the first Lubavitcher Rebbe [Alex Heppenheimer] One Nation, Under God [Carl A. Singer] Separation of Church and State (4) [Ari Trachtenberg, Bernard Raab, Art Werschulz, R E Sternglantz] [...] 15651 377 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #67 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 23 Aug 2005 05:26:21 -0400483_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 67 Produced: Tue Aug 23 5:26:21 EDT 2005



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bet resh kaf [Yehoshua Steinberg] Beth-Resh-Caph--Rav Hirsch's Theory [Russell Jay Hendel] Bigoted posting [Eitan Fiorino] Chassidic stories [Joseph Ginzberg] Does gay marriage affect straight marriage? [Janet R.] Hot Water on Shabbot [Shmuel Norin] Jewesses, Lionesses, and Ogresses [Orrin Tilevitz] minhag hamokom [Stuart Pilichowski] [...] 16029 338 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #68 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:23:06 -0400567_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 68 Produced: Tue Aug 23 7:23:05 EDT 2005



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Forceps Vaginal Delivery and PHB [Martin Stern] Hats [Nathan Lamm] Hats for Tefila [Mark Steiner] Hats for T'filah [Elazar M. Teitz] Is this meat? Is this kosher? [Immanuel Burton] Jackets [Joel Rich] Jackets (and Hats) for Tefilah [Shayna Kravetz] J/J Campaign [David Prins] Josephus vs. Sefer Yosefon [Aryeh Gielchinsky] Mezuzah question [Stephen Colman] Surname Cohen [Stephen Colman] Two head coverings [Nathan Lamm] [...] 16368 368 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #69 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:03:42 -0400391_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 69 Produced: Wed Aug 24 5:03:42 EDT 2005



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bet resh kaf [Lisa Liel] Jewesses, Lionesses, and Ogresses [David Charlap] Josephus vs. Sefer Yosefon [Nathan Lamm] Language... and Pidyon-ha-Ben [Art Werschulz] Learning on Tisha b'av [Ira L. Jacobson] Pidyon HaBen references [Sammy Finkelman] [...] 16737 430 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #70 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:16:09 -0400683_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 70 Produced: Wed Aug 24 5:16:09 EDT 2005



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Chassidic Stories [Nathan Lamm] Forceps Vaginal Delivery and PHB [Lisa Liel] History of matrilineal transference [Tom Buchler] Hot Water on Shabbat [Josh Backon] Is this meat? Is this kosher? (2) [Irwin Weiss, Martin Stern] J/J ads [Nathan Lamm] J/J campaign on Yahoo [Carl Singer] Josephus vs. Sefer Yosefon [Robert Israel] Learning on Tisha b'av [Lisa Liel] Mefunak [Mr L Reich] Mezuzah Question (2) [Joshua Hosseinof, Rachel Swirsky] Minhag Hamakom [Nathan Lamm] Minhag Hamokom [Martin Stern] Napoleon and the first Lubavitcher Rebbe [...] 17168 386 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #71 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:59:19 -0400466_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 71 Produced: Thu Aug 25 4:59:19 EDT 2005



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Church/Shul v. State [c.halevi] Honest vs. Lies [Carl Singer] "Jew Couple" [Carl Singer] J/J Campaign (2) [Harry Weiss, Ed Greenberg] Mihag v. Secular Law [Orrin Tilevitz] Separation of Church and State (7) [Art Sapper, Frank Silbermann, Ed Greenberg, Akiva Miller, Art Werschulz, Janice Gelb, Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz] [...] 17555 372 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #72 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:09:25 -0400422_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 72 Produced: Thu Aug 25 5:09:25 EDT 2005



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Jackets (and Hats) for Tefilah [Frank Silbermann] Jackets and hats in shul (3) [Batya Medad, Sholom Parnes, FriedmanJ@aol.com] Minhag Hamokom (2) [Joel Rich, Ira L. Jacobson] Rabbinical Mathematics [Reuven] Removing hats [David Curwin] Volume of tephilah [Phyllostac@aol.com] [...] 17928 344 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #73 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:33:04 -0400424_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 73 Produced: Thu Aug 25 5:33:04 EDT 2005



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bet resh kaf (3) [Jonathan Baker, Ira L. Jacobson, Russell J Hendel] Cleaning shofars [Sammy Finkelman] History of matrilineal transference [Ben Katz] Hot Water on Shabbat [Arie] Jew couple vs. Jewish couple [Ruth Bernstein] Jewess, etc. [Abie Zayit] Noisy davenning [Ben Katz] [...] 18273 441 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #74 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:04:58 -0400647_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 74 Produced: Fri Aug 26 5:04:57 EDT 2005



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Are we ever permitted to lie? (2) [Gilad J. Gevaryahu, Michael Kahn] Baruch Dayan Emet [Avi Feldblum] Cleaning Shofars (2) [Leah S. Gordon, Dov Bloom] Dibur hamatchil [Lipman Phillip Minden] Hot Water on Shabbat [Gershon Dubin] Mir Yeshiva Bochor murdered in Jerusalem [Anonymous] Noisy davenning (2) [Ira L. Jacobson, Gershon Dubin] Rabbinical Mathematics (4) [Mike Gerver, Richard Dine, Josh Backon, ben katz] Removing hats [Carl A. Singer] Volume of kaddish (was: Volume of tephilah) [Mike Gerver] [...] 18715 370 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #75 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:10:48 -0400359_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 75 Produced: Fri Aug 26 5:10:48 EDT 2005



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bet resh kaf [Lisa Liel] Good Intentions -- was separation of church & state [Carl A. Singer] Jew couple [Nadine Bonner] Josephus vs. Sefer Yosefon [Sammy Finkelman] Separation of Church and State [Saul Mashbaum] [...] 19086 350 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #76 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:27:40 -0400491_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 76 Produced: Fri Aug 26 5:27:39 EDT 2005



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Class Assignment--Observing a church service [Nitzchia Bat Sela] Going into a Church [Michael Kahn] Jackets and hats in shul [I. Balbin] Minhag v. Secular Law [Michael Kahn] Post-Dated Checks [Tobias Robison] Revisionist history? [Joseph Ginzberg] Seat Belts [Carl A. Singer] Separation of Church and State (2) [David Charlap, Shoshana Ziskind] [...] 19437 393 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #77 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:26:41 -0400509_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 77 Produced: Sun Aug 28 7:26:41 EDT 2005



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Are we ever permitted to lie? [Immanuel Burton] Class Assignment--Observing a church service (2) [Immanuel Burton, Martin Stern] Hot Water on Shabbat [Immanuel Burton] Mihag v. Secular Law [Asher Grossman] Mordechai and Esther [Abe Brot] Revisionist history? [Ira L. Jacobson] Revisionist History [Jeanette Friedman] Separation of Church and State [Bernard Raab] [...] 19831 360 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #78 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:36:47 -0400387_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 78 Produced: Sun Aug 28 7:36:47 EDT 2005



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bet resh kaf [Yehoshua Steinberg] Hats for Tefila [Stephen Phillips] Hot Water on Shabbat [Arie] Post-dated checks [Yehonatan Chipman] Revisionist history? [Gilad J. Gevaryahu] Seat Belts [Gershon Dubin] Seat belts [Kenneth H. Ryesky, Esq.] [...] 20192 372 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #79 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:46:20 -0400621_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 79 Produced: Sun Aug 28 7:46:19 EDT 2005



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Entering a Church [Josh Backon] A Great Jewish Ed quote: [Chaim Shapiro] Hair Coverings- Women vs. Men [Joseph Ginzberg] Halachas of Hats [Andy Goldfinger] Horns (was seperation of church and State) [Chaim Shapiro] Jackets for Tefilah [S Wise] Josephus vs. Sefer Yosifon [Yehonatan Chipman] Lying [Anonymous: Alzheimer's Family] Public Schools and "dejudaizing" Jewish Children [Chaim Shapiro] Seat Belts [Art Werschulz] Symposium on Dinoh D'Malchuta Dinoh [Andy Goldfinger] [...] 20565 387 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #80 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:45:21 -0400513_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 80 Produced: Mon Aug 29 5:45:20 EDT 2005



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Attending a Church Service [Orrin Tilevitz] Going into a Church [W. Baker] Good Intentions -- was separation of church & state [Janice Gelb] Noah's [Janice Gelb] Noisy davenning [Ben Katz] Post-dated checks [Carl A. Singer] Seat Belts [Ben Katz] Shofar [Rabbi Abraham Halbfinger] Tefila Betzibur [Gershon Dubin] What is family - synagogue definitions [Keith Bierman] [...] 20953 354 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #81 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:56:16 -0400438_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 81 Produced: Mon Aug 29 5:56:16 EDT 2005



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Are we ever permitted to lie? [Gershon Dubin] Blaming the victim [Risa Tzohar] Eyewitness Account of Death of Yeshiva Boy from Medic Moshe from Old City [Ira L. Jacobson] Military & hats [Carl A. Singer] Revisionist history? (2) [Ira L. Jacobson, Mike Gerver] Seat Belts [Stuart Pilichowski] [...] 21308 408 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #82 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Mon, 29 Aug 2005 06:07:33 -0400524_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 82 Produced: Mon Aug 29 6:07:32 EDT 2005



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Davening Attire [Joel Rich] Entering a Church (Some rabbis did!) [Gilad J. Gevaryahu] Horns [Annice Grinberg] Jackets for Tefillah [chips@eskimo.com] Jewish Education [Ilana Rosansky] Mordechai and Esther (2) [Gilad J. Gevaryahu, Asher Grossman] Separation of Church and State [David Ziants] Soft Matzah, was Mnhag v. Secular Law [Allen Gerstl] telling a lie [chips@eskimo.com] [...] 21717 396 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #83 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:59:17 -0400406_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 83 Produced: Tue Aug 30 5:59:17 EDT 2005



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Attending a Church Service [Stuart Pilichowski] bet resh kaf (2) [Ira L. Jacobson, Ira L. Jacobson] Church / Business needs [Carl A. Singer] Entering a church [c.halevi] Entering a Church (Some rabbis did!) [Josh Backon] Horns (3) [c.halevi, Arie, Fay Berger] [...] 22114 357 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #84 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:08:10 -0400400_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 84 Produced: Tue Aug 30 6:08:10 EDT 2005



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J Update: Biblical Clipart and Language Match Game [Jacob Richman] Post-dated checks [Asher Grossman] Post-dated cheques [Shayna Kravetz] Seat Belts (3) [Ari Y. Weintraub, M.D., Joshua Meisner, Ari Trachtenberg] Seat Belts and Shidduchim [Chaim Shapiro] [...] 22472 365 30_mail-jewish Vol. 49 #85 Digest12_Avi Feldblum20_mljewish@SHAMASH.ORG31_Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:20:10 -0400581_- Mail.Jewish Mailing List Volume 49 Number 85 Produced: Tue Aug 30 6:20:10 EDT 2005



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Attending a Church Service [Ira L. Jacobson] Davening Attire (2) [Jeff Kaufman, S Wise] Esther [Nathan Lamm] Eyewitness Account of Death of Yeshiva Boy [Arie] Jewish Community in Denver [Carl A. Singer] Mezuzah Question [Tobias Robison] Non-Jewish Translation [Shimon Lebowitz] Obligation for Tefilah with Minyan (2) [Joel Rich, Akiva Miller] Rav Kook on the 'ochel bosur' posuk in this weeks sedra [.cp.] Soft Matzos [Asher Grossman] [...]