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2 48 56_Re: unknown character in the ancient Phoenician alphabet16_Benjamin C. Kite13_ajax@ajax.org31_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:49:03 -0500556_us-ascii Perhaps it is a mountain range in the background and a river in the foreground.
The shape seems inauthentic in the context of that alphabet.
:::: Prior to now, Jay F Shachter wrote ::::::: :: :: I have a screen dump of a font (which I shall include herewith as a :: GIF file attachment, for those of you who are able to read GIF file :: attachments) in which I recognize the letters of the alphabet, but :: there is one character that I do not recognize. If you are capable of :: displaying or printing out the attached [...]
51 18 56_Re: unknown character in the ancient Phoenician alphabet4_rf8730_Robert_A_FRADKIN@umail.umd.edu26_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:23 EDT391_- Shalom, Hebraists,
On this mysterious Phoenician character, can those of us who can't read the gif see the screen that Jay dumped?
Bob Fradkin College Park, MD
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70 31 61_RE: Why you should NOT look for patterns in Raw Cantillations14_Russell Hendel22_rhendel@mcs.drexel.edu37_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:32:32 -0400 (EDT)328_- Rather than give Marc the book he is looking for it may be worthwhile to explain why he should NOT look for patterns.
It is universally conceded that Cantillations correlate with meaning and with length of words. Hence seeking patterns without the items they are suppose to correlate with is intrinsically futile. [...]
102 84 47_Answer to Avi: Why certain blessings require ES14_Russell Hendel22_rhendel@mcs.drexel.edu37_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:35:25 -0400 (EDT)510_- Avi Tuchman asks why certain blessings use ES while others do not. Monica Devens replied historically. I have a conceptually simpler answer
RULE: If Biblical usage usually demanded an ES, then the blessing uses it Otherwise the blessing does not use it
Let us examine the 8 cases brought by Avi
EXAMPLES BROUGHT BY AVI TUCHMAN ================================= 1)"ohaiv amo Yisroel," STATISTICS: 4 occurences AMO YISROEL (Ju11:23,2Sam5:13,1K8:59,1C14:2) 0 occurences ES AMO YISROEL [...]
187 162 64_Answer to Jeff: 1-2-Ayin =1-2-Hay roots Frequently: DBase output14_Russell Hendel22_rhendel@mcs.drexel.edu37_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:36:13 -0400 (EDT)680_- 1-2-Ayin and 1-2-Hay interchange frequently ============================================ This posting answers Jeff's question on KTzA vs KTzH Roots with 1-2-AYIN **do** interchange quite frequently in Hebrew with similar roots (such as 1-2-Hay roots). A brief output of all such pairs is presented below. I was rather appalled on hearing that Kohler and Baumgartner thought the AYIN-HAY was a textual error. They could have easily produced the list below which shows the phenomena to be quite common (1/3 of the 1-2-A and 1-2-Hay verbs have identical meaning; 1/3 have clearly related meaning while the remaining 1/3 have conjectural relation---certainly there is case for [...]
350 49 56_Re: unknown character in the ancient Phoenician alphabet16_Benjamin C. Kite13_ajax@ajax.org31_Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:31:02 -0500556_us-ascii Perhaps it is a mountain range in the background and a river in the foreground.
The shape seems inauthentic in the context of that alphabet.
:::: Prior to now, Jay F Shachter wrote ::::::: :: :: I have a screen dump of a font (which I shall include herewith as a :: GIF file attachment, for those of you who are able to read GIF file :: attachments) in which I recognize the letters of the alphabet, but :: there is one character that I do not recognize. If you are capable of :: displaying or printing out the attached [...]