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2 132 13_Fwd: Sad News19_Aliya Cheskis-Cotel13_sc523@AOL.COM30_Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:22:16 -0400
135 116 17_Re: Fwd: Sad News12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:51:17 -0700408_iso-8859-1 Dear Aliyah- What a horrible thing--Israel has been trying to cut down on the accidents, and there have been big campaigns for that; when it happens, thoughmm there is o consolation. Such tragedy is just awful; "Yehi zichronam l'vrach" for all of the victims.....sue
--- Aliya Cheskis-Cotel wrote:
--------------------------------- Dear Chevreh, [...]
252 68 22_Habonim Canada History0_15_ronoren@AOL.COM30_Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:53:49 -0400486_us-ascii
Hello All, If anyone is interested, currently on eBay is the book tracking Canada's Habonim history.
From Mandate to State 1923-1948, the story of the Zionist Order Habonim
FIGLER, Bernard, Montreal, Canada, 1951, 112 pages, b. & w. ill., 1 folded.
Cheers, Ron Orenstein
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321 103 26_Re: Habonim Canada History13_moshe sheskin18_moshes80@GMAIL.COM30_Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:28:49 -0400648_ISO-8859-1 *This is not to be confused with Habonim-Labour Zionist Organization. Bernard Figler was associated with "HABONIM'-General Zionists. * *It may be interesting of itself but not if you're looking for our Habonim.* ** *Moshe Sheskin* *Hulda *
On 10/1/07, ronoren@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello All, > If anyone is interested, currently on eBay is the book tracking Canada's > Habonim history. > > *From Mandate to State 1923-1948, the story of the Zionist Order Habonim* > *FIGLER, Bernard, *Montreal, Canada, 1951, 112 pages, b. & w. ill., 1 > folded. > > Cheers, > Ron Orenstein > ------------------------------ [...]
425 28 42_Aliya's looking for Naomi in San Francisco19_Aliya Cheskis-Cotel13_sc523@AOL.COM30_Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:22:53 -0400
454 57 46_Re: Aliya's looking for Naomi in San Francisco11_Batel Libes23_batel_libes@COMCAST.NET30_Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:29:28 +0000440_- That would be Nomi Jay. Our kids go to school together, so I'll try to let her know you are looking for her. Anything I can help with?
Batel
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Aliya Cheskis-Cotel Naomi who used to be Mazkirat Tnua who lives in San Francisco - can you write me back please? Thanks, Aliya - I need a resource for an important matter in the Bay Area. Aliya Cheskis-Cotel [...]
512 43 37_THE "SUKAH-RIYAH" in Jerusalem---HELP12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:51:59 -0700414_iso-8859-1 Any of our chevre out there in Jerusalem and near Kikar Tzafra??? There has been a big brouhaha about the sukkah the iryah built out of candy--but no picture--Can anyone out there take one--and does it exist??--chag sameach--Curious--sue
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556 95 26_Re: Democracy and Religion12_Meir Hurwitz16_meir69@GMAIL.COM30_Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:44:44 +0200516_ISO-8859-1 In the Talmud there is the story of Rabbi Eliezer (I think it was him) in an argument with the Sanhedrin. He was one against the rest and cried out for the walls to shake if he was right. The walls shook and the others said that they don't take evidence from the walls. Rabbi E. called for the river to flow uphill and the river started to flow uphill. The others said that the river could not be a witness. Rabbi E. called for God himself to be his witness and the volice said - You know that Rabbi [...]
652 113 26_Re: Democracy and Religion5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:35:16 +0200402_ISO-8859-1 May god bless you, R. Meir for citing this seminal piece. It was Rabbi Eliezer (ben Horkenos.) A Hebrew rendition of this case can be found on Hebrew Wilkepedia ( http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%95 ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meir Hurwitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Democracy and Religion [...]
766 476 46_Jerusalem Post - Russia's New Jewish Refusniks16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET30_Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:19:29 -0400611_us-ascii The Jerusalem Post Internet Edition
Fundamentally Freund: Russia's new Jewish refuseniks
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Freund , THE JERUSALEM POST Oct. 2, 2007
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is a story that is so maddening, so infuriating, and so patently absurd, that it should make your blood boil. For the past four years, thousands of Russian Jews have been prevented from making aliya and reuniting with their loved ones in the Jewish state. [...]
1243 42 66_Shalom Auslander and an interesting question--Especially for Amnon12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:48:54 -0700397_iso-8859-1 Anyone who is interested, please go to Amazon.com, and to the website for "Foreskin's Lament"--there is a video where Shalom Auslander introduces his memoir; please watch it and comment; I am interested.....chag sameach--sue
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1286 55 41_Re: THE "SUKAH-RIYAH" in Jerusalem---HELP0_25_ddwgreen@NETVISION.NET.IL30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:08:09 +0200512_iso-8859-1 Here is what my niece sent: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14720293 Chag Sameach to all you out there who are still celebrating! Fortunately, we're finished for this year! Trudy
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1342 47 30_Yoomba missed Call from leodie6_leodie18_leodie@ISDN.NET.IL30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:08:10 -0500
1390 142 70_Re: Shalom Auslander and an interesting question--Especially for Amnon5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:28:32 +0200570_iso-8859-1 Sue. If I had my d'ruthers I would I opt for a fiveskin? Nah, because then I would be Max.
Next question.
Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liberman To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Shalom Auslander and an interesting question--Especially for Amnon
Anyone who is interested, please go to Amazon.com, and to the website for "Foreskin's Lament"--there is a video where Shalom Auslander introduces his memoir; please watch it and comment; I am interested.....chag sameach--sue [...]
1533 82 41_Re: THE "SUKAH-RIYAH" in Jerusalem---HELP12_Sharon Gates25_newfriendsharon@YAHOO.COM30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:03:20 -0700860_us-ascii Just watch out for the witch standing by the oven. -Sharon ----- Original Message ---- From: "ddwgreen@NETVISION.NET.IL" To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 10:08:09 PM Subject: Re: THE "SUKAH-RIYAH" in Jerusalem---HELP Here is what my niece sent: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14720293 Chag Sameach to all you out there who are still celebrating! Fortunately, we're finished for this year! Trudy The HABONET mailing list is hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network, a service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies. To unsubscribe email HABONET-unsubscribe-request@SHAMASH.ORG For other options go to: http://listserv.SHAMASH.ORG/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in [...]
1616 57 41_Re: THE "SUKAH-RIYAH" in Jerusalem---HELP12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:12:24 -0700727_iso-8859-1 THANKS Trudy for that!!!-- There was only "negative" press int he Israeli papers ( decrying it as a waste of funds, and promoting tooth decay!).....Funny the only good press comes from NPR!!!...sue
--- ddwgreen@NETVISION.NET.IL wrote:
> Here is what my niece sent: > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14720293 > Chag Sameach to all you out there who are still > celebrating! Fortunately, we're finished for this > year! > Trudy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by > Shamash: The Jewish Network, http://shamash.org, > a service of Hebrew College, which offers online > courses and > an online [...]
1674 77 70_Re: Shalom Auslander and an interesting question--Especially for Amnon12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:23:35 -0700345_iso-8859-1 Good thing you don't raise bovines- cause then you'd have a "pigskin".....On the other hand, since you are so stubborn, maybe you have "thickskin"...Oh no...You got me going..I feel like I am back at Mosh.......But I really would like to know what you think of Auslander ( is he really an "innielander"???)...shabbat shalom!-sue [...]
1752 282 70_Re: Shalom Auslander and an interesting question--Especially for Amnon5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:50:08 +0200371_iso-8859-1 I think that Auslander's basic thrust is valid and pained. But the title: Foreskin put me off becuase it sounds like cheap hucksterism. Shabbat shalom
Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liberman To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Shalom Auslander and an interesting question--Especially for Amnon [...]
2035 581 36_So Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby?11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM30_Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:41:06 -0600475_iso-8859-1 from consortiumnews.com
So Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby?
By Ray McGovern October 5, 2007
Virtually everyone: Republican, Democrat -- Conservative, Liberal. The fear factor is non-partisan, you might say, and palpable.
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee brags that it is the most influential foreign policy lobbying organization on Capitol Hill, and has demonstrated that time and again, and not only on Capitol Hill. [...]
2617 121 29_Farewell to a Vanishing Breed15_Nechemia Meyers23_meyers@NETVISION.NET.IL30_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:51:05 +0200430_windows-1255
Farewell to a Vanishing Breed
Nechemia Meyers
Many kibbutzim are vanishing. So are the pioneers who built them.
These "last Mohicans" were incredible people, many of whom gave up a comfortable life in the Diaspora for a precarious existence in the Land of Israel. Typical of this breed was Shlomo Etzioni, whose funeral at Kibbutz Tsora I attended last week. [...]
2739 165 75_Fw: Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon statelegislature11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET30_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:35:05 -0400419_iso-8859-1 Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon state legislatureFor Albert
----- Original Message ----- From: Albert Kaufman To: Noam Stopak Stopak Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:46 AM Subject: Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon statelegislature
Noam, can you forward this to Habonet for me. I've subscribed, but for some reason cannot post. Albert [...]
2905 113 46_So Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby, etc. etc.16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET30_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:43:32 -0400656_ISO-8859-1 The consortiumnews piece posted by Phil is a whacky piece of conspiracy theory. It is historically flawed, paranoid and arguably anti-Semitic. Where to begin?
Start with 1967 and the Israeli attack on the US spy ship Liberty. I don't think anyone at this point doubts that the attack was purposefully ordered, though it's not by any means clear by whom. Michael Oren's authoritative book on the Six Day War--and Oren's book is based on both thorough document study and intensive interviews with the surviving protagonists--is inconclusive. McGovern's allegation that US knowledge of Israeli intentions to attack the Golan would have [...]
3019 242 75_Re: Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon statelegislature13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:12:54 +0200649_us-ascii Good luck, Albert. Will you be selling your HMMVV?
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Noam Stopak Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:35 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Fw: Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon statelegislature
For Albert
----- Original Message ----- From: Albert Kaufman To: Noam Stopak Stopak Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:46 AM Subject: Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon statelegislature [...]
3262 25 66_Habonimnik (Miriam) Seth Rogan hosting Saturday Night Live tonight15_Steven Weinberg19_chaversteve@MAC.COM30_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:01:05 -0400483_US-ASCII Be there
We understand he may mention Habonim Dror
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3288 75 75_Re: Some Portland News: I've decided to run for the Oregon statelegislature11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM28_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:48:35 EDT470_US-ASCII Shalom Albert, as one who has been active in the Democratic party for years, I wish you a hearty mazel tov on your decision to run. It is a very exciting decision and I know because i ran for eight terms and won as Democratic state Committee woman in my district. I also ran twice as a delegate to the national convention. I won all those times but lost the last time I ran (the demographics of my neighborhood have changed). Again, good luck. Sylvia Lask [...]
3364 257 33_Re: Farewell to a Vanishing Breed5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:12:53 +0200644_windows-1255 Nechmia, Well said. Yishar kochecha! Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Nechemia Meyers To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:51 AM Subject: Farewell to a Vanishing Breed
Farewell to a Vanishing Breed
Nechemia Meyers
Many kibbutzim are vanishing. So are the pioneers who built them.
These "last Mohicans" were incredible people, many of whom gave up a comfortable life in the Diaspora for a precarious existence in the Land of Israel. Typical of this breed was Shlomo Etzioni, whose funeral at Kibbutz Tsora I attended last week. [...]
3622 61 33_Re: Farewell to a Vanishing Breed11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM28_Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:35:28 EDT522_US-ASCII What a beautiful tribute. Sylvia.......I have a close friend at Tzorah.....Judy Jampolsky....must drop her a note.
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3684 84 32_Idan Raichel US tour--from susie12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:27:14 -0700556_iso-8859-1 Below is the schedule for Idan Raichel's US tour----if you haven't been to one of his concerts, GO!!!!!! You won't be sorry!!!---sue
> Subject: THE IDAN RAICHEL PROJECT TOUR DATES - USA ONLY > > Oct 8 2007 8:00P > US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New York > Oct 9 2007 8:00P > US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New York > Oct 10 2007 8:00P > US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New York > > > Oct 30 2007 8:00P > Fillmore at Jackie Gleason Theater Miami, Florida > Nov 1 2007 8:00P > Erb Memorial Grand Ballroom Eugene, Oregon > Nov 4 [...]
3769 101 24_Re: Idan Raichel US tour6_Kathee26_holycowfoods@EARTHLINK.NET30_Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:37:06 -0700611_UTF-8 We'll be there at the University of Oregon! Kathee & Anton (JoJo & Jesse)
-----Original Message----- >From: Sue Liberman >Sent: Oct 8, 2007 6:27 PM >To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG >Subject: Idan Raichel US tour--from susie > >Below is the schedule for Idan Raichel's US tour----if >you haven't been to one of his concerts, GO!!!!!! You >won't be sorry!!!---sue > > >> Subject: THE IDAN RAICHEL PROJECT TOUR DATES - USA >ONLY >> >> Oct 8 2007 8:00P >> US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New >York >> Oct 9 2007 8:00P >> US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New >York >> Oct 10 2007 8:00P [...]
3871 132 36_Re: Idan Raichel US tour--from susie0_16_gttaylor@ATT.NET31_Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:46:15 +0000541_- fyi
-------------- Original message from Sue Liberman : --------------
> Below is the schedule for Idan Raichel's US tour----if > you haven't been to one of his concerts, GO!!!!!! You > won't be sorry!!!---sue > > > > Subject: THE IDAN RAICHEL PROJECT TOUR DATES - USA > ONLY > > > > Oct 8 2007 8:00P > > US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New > York > > Oct 9 2007 8:00P > > US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New > York > > Oct 10 2007 8:00P > > US Holocaust Museum Manhattan, New > York > > > > [...]
4004 162 22_Fw: Bus from Bnei Brak5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:56:09 +0200448_iso-8859-1
----- Original Message ----- From: Yehuda Riemer To: Zeev Ofer ; ZADOK RAM ; Yonina ; walt & deborah nothmann ; marci@urim.org.il ; George & Sima Schwager ; angela ; amnon hadari Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Fw: Bus from Bnei Brak
----- Original Message ----- From: David Halperin To: Undisclosed recipients: Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:10 AM Subject: Bus from Bnei Brak [...]
4167 224 74_Fw: [LISTOWNER-ADMIN] Upgraded ListServ 15.5 -- problems and fixes for you11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:51:55 -0400418_iso-8859-1 To anyone who uses the web interface to the listserv services on Shamash - you probably need to reset the password on the shamash server. See below. Ain't technology grand :-)
Noam
----- Original Message ----- From: Shamash Help Desk To: LISTOWNER-ADMIN@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: [LISTOWNER-ADMIN] Upgraded ListServ 15.5 -- problems and fixes for you [...]
4392 85 26_Re: Fw: Bus from Bnei Brak0_18_normk@ADELPHIA.NET31_Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:42 -0700395_utf-8 Amnon,
Great Posting! Sums up a lot in a very few words.
Norm Kane ---- Amnon wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: Yehuda Riemer To: Zeev Ofer ; ZADOK RAM ; Yonina ; walt & deborah nothmann ; marci@urim.org.il ; George & Sima Schwager ; angela ; amnon hadari Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Fw: Bus from Bnei Brak [...]
4478 82 12_random notes0_13_mmxmm@AOL.COM31_Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:50:59 -0400598_us-ascii
Hello All,
Its been an interesting couple of weeks in my world here in the Bay Area SF. A few weeks ago I was attending a concert ( Phil Lesh & Friends) at the Greek Theater on UC Berkeley campus on a beautiful sunny Sunday afternoon. I went with my friend and client...Wavy Gravy, who for some is like hippie royalty & hence attracts a fair amount of public attention...at least in that universe. As I was awaiting the show or maybe during the set break I was partaking in one of my favorite activities....blowing bubbles when suddenly a woman [...]
4561 72 16_Re: random notes12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:16:56 -0700644_iso-8859-1 Marc--Life is really wonderful--when you can appreciate what we have and the opportunities which are thrown in our faces!...Too often, we find ourselves "stuck" in mucks of missed opportunities...but when they (opportunities) pop up - often they can be mind-blowing...Cool for you!--Your old madricha- (sue)sie
mmxmm@AOL.COM wrote:
Hello All,
Its been an interesting couple of weeks in my world here in the Bay Area SF. A few weeks ago I was attending a concert ( Phil Lesh & Friends) at the Greek Theater on UC Berkeley campus on a beautiful sunny Sunday afternoon. I went with my friend and client...Wavy [...]
4634 220 16_Re: random notes0_13_mmxmm@AOL.COM31_Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:25:36 -0400662_us-ascii
hey there,
good to hear from you. yep life is often quite a trip. I thought Barbara Koppel directed the Dixie Chicks movie?? She and D.A. Pennebaker of excecutive producing the Wavy Gravy film? :St. MisBehavin': The Life & Time of Wavy Gravy".
take good care and be well.
marc
Marc--Life is really wonderful--when you can appreciate what we have and the opportunities which are thrown in our faces!...Too often, we find ourselves "stuck" in mucks of missed opportunities...but when they (opportunities) pop up - often they can be mind-blowing...Cool for you!--Your old madricha- (sue)sie [...]
4855 98 16_Re: random notes0_15_DebALev@AOL.COM29_Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:48:41 EDT461_US-ASCII
In a message dated 10/11/2007 3:52:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mmxmm@AOL.COM writes:
Wavy Gravy, who for some is like hippie royalty
No, he IS hippie royalty.
Sheesh,,,,,,,so are all those names. Takes me back to the good old days. And I haven't seen so many names dropped since my SigO told me about being on Kerouac's bus with Jack Cassady and Allen Ginsburg and partying with Gracie Slick et al. [...]
4954 231 16_Re: random notes12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:01:53 -0700546_iso-8859-1 I think Cecilia is her partner--ask her!....But you can check the credits on imdb.com --- mmxmm@AOL.COM wrote:
> > hey there, > > good to hear from you. yep life is often quite a > trip. I thought Barbara Koppel directed the Dixie > Chicks movie?? She and D.A. Pennebaker of excecutive > producing the Wavy Gravy film? :St. MisBehavin': The > Life & Time of Wavy Gravy". > > take good care and be well. > > marc > > > > > Marc--Life is really wonderful--when you can > appreciate what we have and the opportunities which > [...]
5186 850 36_WSJ - Al Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:41:08 -0400613_ISO-8859-1 Search Results for Selected Items
The Wall Street Journal
October 12, 2007 9:37 a.m. EDT
Al Gore, U.N. Climate Panel Win 2007 Nobel Peace Prize
Associated Press October 12, 2007 9:37 a.m.
OSLO -- Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change were awarded the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.
The committee recognized their efforts to build up and spread knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures to fight it. [...]
6037 267 42_B=?windows-1255?Q?=92reshit_?= Creationism5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:41:45 +0200591_windows-1255
Since it began on Erev Rosh Hashana on September 12 and only ended with Simchat Torah on October 4, the High Holiday season called Haggei Tishrei is a bit much of a muchness. But TV’s Channel One saved it for me when it hosted author Meir Shalev. More than a decade younger than AB. Yehosua and Amos Oz. (Meir was born in 1948) he has carried the war of independence of modern Hebrew letters even further than they did. For instance, he applied insights of bible criticism, literary deconstructionism, and a healthy dollop of Peck’s Bad Boy to his comments [...]
6305 89 44_Re: B=?iso-8859-7?Q?=A2reshit_?= Creationism12_Sharon Gates25_newfriendsharon@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:05:17 -0700579_iso-8859-7 There seems to be an underlying assumption that this was God's first crack at this. How do you know that God hadn't tried it before, saw that it wasn't good, and threw it all back in the grinder to start again? The world we know might have been God's 2nd, 5th, or 10,000th draft. Maybe there was a word that was edited out of B'reshit: it's not that God saw that it was good, but rather that God saw that it was good enough. Shabbat shalom, Sharon ----- Original Message ---- From: Amnon To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Friday, October 12, [...]
6395 159 46_Re: B=?windows-1255?Q?=92reshit_?= Creationism11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:22:25 -0400455_windows-1255
----- Original Message ----- From: Amnon To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:41 AM Subject: B’reshit Creationism
...
What do you mean God, saw that it was good, was this an open ended experiment in world building or the thought out plan of a responsible Master Builder?
Assume that it had been a flop. Would he have abandoned it and gone on to make cars? [...]
6555 395 52_[QUAR]Re: B=?windows-1255?Q?=92reshit_?= Creationism5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:00:50 +0200489_windows-1255
Noam
1. Give Emily a pre-batmitzva mazal tov from me. 2. And here is a pointer to some more interesting reading.
The Master Builder Henrik Ibsen, tr. Michael Meyer Review date: 28/4/98 Publisher: Methuen Published: 1892, translation 1961
The Master Builder is one of Ibsen's later plays, and presumably shares some of the themes and preoccupations of The Lady From the Sea, with which it shares the character of Hilde Wangel. [...]
6951 50 56_Re: [QUAR]Re: B=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?=92reshit_?= Creationism12_Meir Hurwitz16_meir69@GMAIL.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:39:11 +0200555_ISO-8859-1 Are you really assuming that there WAS a "God" that "created" this universe ?
Aren't you assuming too much ?
Meir
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7002 32 30_Interesting Israel Promo Piece19_Aliya Cheskis-Cotel13_sc523@AOL.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:58:35 -0400
7035 159 14_Their Own Self16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:38:02 -0700553_iso-8859-1 I wish I'd said this! Fred strikes again.
http://fredoneverything.net/Jews2.shtml follows:
Their Own Self
FRED Columns
The Crimes of Jews
Pottling and Kettling
July 30, 2007
I get a steady rivulet of strange mail telling how horrible Jews are. Apparently there is no crime of which they are not guilty. I find myself wondering: How do they find the time to be so evil? Are they on amphetamines or something? [...]
7195 116 16_Re: random notes19_Aliya Cheskis-Cotel13_sc523@AOL.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:06:11 -0400
7312 484 16_Re: random notes11_Batel Libes23_Batel_Libes@COMCAST.NET31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:32:14 -0700513_us-ascii Isn't cool how one of the things that tie all of us together is our love for the same music? I don't think I know anyone outside my Native American and Habonim friends who know who Buffy is.
Batel
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Aliya Cheskis-Cotel Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:06 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: random notes [...]
7797 144 54_One Treadmill, Two Refuges, One College- Daniel Gordis16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:49:04 -0700520_iso-8859-1 One Treadmill, Two Refugees, One College. October 14, 2007 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We start with two stories.
The first story, eight years ago: We'd just moved into our apartment in Jerusalem. After almost two years of living in three different rentals, we were more than anxious to settle down, to have our own furniture once again, to unpack our books, and to make a "real" home. We also wanted a treadmill, which we'd put off buying as long as we kept moving around. [...]
7942 1231 24_NYT - Klal Yisrael: NOT!16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:40:04 -0400582_ISO-8859-1
The New York Times
------------------------------------------------------------------------ October 14, 2007 Money in New York
The SY Empire
By ZEV CHAFETS
Geographically speaking, the Syrian Jewish community of Brooklyn -- 75,000 strong and growing fast -- inhabits an enclave running from Avenue I in the north to Avenue V in the south and stretching eastward to Nostrand Avenue from West 6th Street. But the community's true boundaries are at once more expansive and more constricted. [...]
9174 1045 48_OpEdNews - Jews Safer With Christians in Charge?16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:04:16 -0400741_ISO-8859-1
OpEdNews
Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_thom_har_071012_ann_coulter_and_just.htm
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October 12, 2007
Ann Coulter and Justice Antonin Scalia to Synagogue - Jews Are Safer with Christians in Charge
By Thom Hartmann
The National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) called on media to stop inviting Ann Coulter as a guest commentator and strongly condemned her comments that Jews should be "perfected" by accepting the New Testament and that America would be better off if Judaism were "thrown away" and all Americans were Christian. [...]
10220 81 33_Daniel Pearl Tribute in Jerusalem16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:05:14 -0700457_iso-8859-1 EVENT - Daniel Pearl Tribute Kehilat Kol Haneshama is honoured to participate In the Sixth Daniel Pearl World Music Days, an annual event which was created in response to the 2002 kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl at the hands of Moslem extremists in Pakistan.
World Music Days uses the universal language of music to encourage fellowship across cultures and build a platform of Harmony for Humanity. [...]
10302 136 13_from susie...12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:33:56 -0700534_iso-8859-1 Hi- well- I hope by now things are a little more "normal" for you and that you have settled in your home. I have been checking out places in Nahariyah- and it looks like I would be able to rent a nice place for pretty cheap near the ocean until I find something to buy, but i am thinking it won't be until the summer of 2009 when I finally come for good, but we'll see...At any rate--what are your "ups and downs" and can you give me alittle advice??? SAince we basically coem from the same place--an understanding of [...]
10439 187 48_Re: from susie...OOPs!--That was for Roz Barland12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:36:33 -0700537_iso-8859-1 Sorry all- that was for Roz and I hit the "reply" button--sorry.....
--- Sue Liberman wrote:
> Hi- well- I hope by now things are a little more > "normal" for you and that you have settled in your > home. I have been checking out places in Nahariyah- > and it looks like I would be able to rent a nice > place > for pretty cheap near the ocean until I find > something > to buy, but i am thinking it won't be until the > summer > of 2009 when I finally come for good, [...]
10627 156 34_Re: from jackie re: David Lelchook0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:05:37 -0400537_UTF-8 David Lelchook, an American from my town of Newton, Mass. and whose mother is a Naamat leader here, died from a Katyusha rocket in Kibbutz Saar last summer during that horrible little war on the Lebanese border. We have a small farm here, the last one in Newton and we would like to have a day of work in his honor and maybe a plaque---we need donations and moral support--could I get some and show the emails to the farmers here in Newton. Also, if anyone knows people on Saar and more on his death, also please let me know. [...]
10784 43 8_Sad News0_22_sambergman@COMCAST.NET31_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:06:38 +0000541_- Bob Levine, 8th Workshop graduate, passed away last Thursday in Philadelphia, his "home town." He was a member of Kibbutz Urim for the past 40+ years. He is survived by his wife Cynthia (Gerlovin) Levine, and his kids Noam, Eitan and Maya.
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10828 279 16_Re: random notes0_14_Ohanka@AOL.COM29_Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:37:20 EDT530_ISO-8859-1
In a message dated 10/14/07 3:07:12 AM, sc523@AOL.COM writes:
> Go, Marc! What a great piece of writing. > > Judith Tumin and I went to Buffy's concert in a brand new venue - dinner > theatre style - in NY a few months ago. She was terrific. > > Aliya > > P.S. Can you post your favorite MP3 of Wavy's if you were to choose one? > And, out of curiosity, what is Wavy Gravy's original name? > > mmxmm@AOL.COM wrote on 10/11/07, 6:50 PM: > > > Hello All, > > Its been an interesting couple of [...]
11108 421 16_Re: random notes0_13_sc523@AOL.COM31_Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:48:54 -0400336_us-ascii
Hey, Chevreh,
These stories have been so very wonderful - perhaps someone wants to collect them and make a Habonet archive collection of them together?
I wasn't going to share an incident of mine because I had posted it several years ago, but these stories all go together, so here it is once again: [...]
11530 155 27_Israel To Improve UAV Force13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:05:33 +0200525_us-ascii I spend a lot of my time at work prowling around these defense trade journals. Here's an article about the IAF that I thought some of you might find interesting. Sorry, no old rock stars.
Jon
Israel To Improve UAV Force By BARBARA OPALL-ROME
TEL NOF AIR FORCE BASE, Israel - The Israel Air Force (IAF) wants to double the size of its UAV inventory, but budget realities are forcing new measures by which to calculate future force needs, the service's top acquisition official said. [...]
11686 68 23_Found in Somebodys Blog5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:40:56 +0200427_windows-1255 I consider myself a Zionist. I believe in the State of Israel for Jews and run by Jews. A True Story... When Golda Meir held the office of Prime Minister, she tried to encourage Henry Kissinger to make Israel a top priority. He sent her a letter: "I would like to inform you that I'm first an American citizen, second Secretary of State and third a Jew." She responded: "In Israel we read from right to left" [...]
11755 2613 69_[QUAR] Fwd: Holocaust Surviver Looking for 'Her Children' and Friends16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:55:44 -0700518_iso-8859-1
Note: forwarded message attached.
--------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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14369 65 9_OY to us!16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:59:03 -0700629_iso-8859-1 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/913888.html
Jewish rightist: 'Finish Hitler's work, kill Ashkenazi Jews' By Uri Blau, Haaretz Correspondent
A right-wing Jewish extremist has been disseminating calls for the assassination of leftists and Ashkenazim on Internet sites in Israel and abroad.
One film clip posted on YouTube, for instance, declares: "You are about to view a handful of leftist Ashkenazim that Hitler and Eichmann did not manage to incinerate. Before we begin, please remember: 90 percent of the moderate left are Ashkenazim!! 100 percent of the extreme left are Ashkenazim!!" [...]
14435 144 9_Olive Oil5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:11:44 +0200693_windows-1255 In his poem Autumn, Yehuda Amichai wrote:
Near the deserted beach
Folded canvas chairs,
Summer’s slaves
Are chained to one another
While the tanned lifeguard go home to grow pale at
Like a prophet of defeat in peace time.
I shift my moods
Like car gears
From animal to vegetable to mineral.
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It’s become almost a biblical ritual. Every year the peaceniks go out to protect Palestinian farmers from the depredations of the settlers. I got my email call up from Peace Now for this Shabbat. I am shifting gears -back to animal. [...]
14580 47 12_Re: Sad News13_Steve Hancoff12_SHX2@AOL.COM29_Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:11:42 EDT561_US-ASCII how does one reach the levine family?
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14628 21 15_Likud Argentina11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:35:42 -0400437_ISO-8859-1 Somehow, I got on the Likud Argentina announcment list. Has this happened to anyone else? DId you manage to get off? How? Judy
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14650 160 11_Olive Oil 25_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:13:49 +0200470_windows-1255 Haverim/ot
I just reread the message I sent out yesterday. It has many errors which I've tried to correct below.
In his poem AUTUMN, Yehuda Amichai wrote:
Near the deserted beach
Folded canvas chairs -
Summer’s slaves
Are chained to one another.
While the tanned lifeguards go home to grow pale
Like prophets of doom in peace time. [...]
14811 487 43_NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:37:02 -0400623_us-ascii The New York Times
------------------------------------------------------------------------ October 19, 2007
Armenian Issue Presents a Dilemma for U.S. Jews
By NEELA BANERJEE
LEXINGTON, Mass., Oct. 17 -- On the docket for the weekly selectmen's meeting here on Monday were the location of park benches, a liquor license for Vinny T's restaurant and, not for the first time, the killing of 1.5 million Armenians in Turkey 90 years ago. [...]
15299 29 47_Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:42:59 -0400356_us-ascii I don't get it.
Ok, passing this resolution creates problems between Turkey and the US. That I can understand.
But how does it create a problem for Israel? Is the point that Meirsheim and Walt are correct and that the Iraq war was all about the US working against it's own interest to benefit Israel? Personally I don't buy it. [...]
15329 636 47_Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter5_Amnon22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:43:24 +0200735_iso-8859-1 I propose propse a standing vote of gratitude and support for Jack Porter
Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Elihu D. Davison To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter
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October 19, 2007 Armenian Issue Presents a Dilemma for U.S. Jews By NEELA BANERJEE LEXINGTON, Mass., Oct. 17 - On the docket for the weekly selectmen's meeting here on Monday were the location of park benches, a liquor license for Vinny T's restaurant and, not for the first time, the killing of 1.5 million Armenians in Turkey 90 [...]
15966 254 47_Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:53:08 -0400
16221 52 47_Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:20:55 -0400536_UTF-8 Message #2: Dear Noam: How does it create a problem for Israel? That is a good question I'd like to see answered by you out there. I don't see how it will but military "experts" say it will-- I don't know. Can someone help me?
Question 2: why now? Because of the ADL scandal here in Boston area, and the third querstion--is this the "wrong" time to deal with this issue? Even as the Armenains lose the last of their survivors, there are still those who say its not the time to speak. This argument has been used for a [...]
16274 232 47_Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:39:06 -0400
16507 242 47_Mozart and the Armenian Genocide - from Haaretz0_13_jlcaa@AOL.COM31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:30:56 -04001284_us-ascii
del.icio.us
Digg It!??new
Mozart and the Armenian genocide
By Tom Segev
On August 22, 1939, just days before the outbreak of World War II, Adolf Hitler met with his army generals. When he explained why he had decided to attack Poland, he assured them that the world would keep silent: "Who, after all, speaks today about the annihilation of the Armenians?," Hitler reasoned. This sentence has been quoted countless times as ostensible proof that the Armenian genocide served as a kind of "general rehearsal" for the annihilation of European Jewry. At the Holocaust Museum in Washington, these words are etched [...]
16750 653 54_[QUAR] Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_13_jlcaa@AOL.COM31_Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:02:40 -0400571_utf-8 I agree w Amnon. Kol Hakavod Jack! Turkey has struggled for years with the question of whether they are a European or Asian (read Near East) country. Part of the answer can be found I believe in how they address this issue. I think everyone agrees the genocide against Armenians was conducted by the Ottomans and not present day Turks. The Turks for their part are afraid of being asked to pay compensation to present day Armenians for sins committed by their fathers, for which their is a precedent we are all familiar with. In a relatively poor country like [...]
17404 69 40_a favor for a friend- The Routine of War16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:01:23 -0700558_iso-8859-1 My name is Bethe Schoenfeld, PhD, and I have been living in Israel since 1980. When the Second Lebanon War broke out last year I was in the States with my husband and daughter visiting family and friends. We decided to return to Israel and our home, never believing that the hostilities would last for 34 days. We live on Kibbutz Gesher Haziv in the Western Galilee of Israel . I have have recently published a book about those residents who decided to stay in their homes during the war. I want the truth of what really happened this summer [...]
17474 284 58_Re: [QUAR] Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:48:19 -0400
17759 217 62_Habonim: the Zionist club that became a factory for creativity11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM31_Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:04:46 -0600659_us-ascii http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article3078904.ece
Habonim: the Zionist club that became a factory for creativity
By Jonathan Brown
Published: 20 October 2007
For the internationally acclaimed film-maker Mike Leigh, it was the place that he learned to be a leader. David Baddiel looks back on his time as a chanichim on camp as a vital training ground for a career in comedy. Ditto Sacha Baron Cohen creator of Ali G , Seth Rogen and a host of writers and producers behind some of the biggest names on British television and in Hollywood. [...]
17977 48 47_Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:23:22 -0400616_UTF-8 Noam--it was a constellation of the ADL scandal in New England and the annual vote that occurs every year in Congress to recognize the Armenians. It comes up every year, Noam. The rest, as they say, is "politics".
Jack Porter
-----Original Message----- >From: nstopak@STARPOWER.NET >Sent: Oct 19, 2007 12:42 PM >To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG >Subject: Re: NYT - Armenian Issue, US Jews & Jack Porter > >I don't get it. > >Ok, passing this resolution creates problems between Turkey and the US. That I can understand. > >But how does it create a problem for Israel? Is the point that Meirsheim and [...]
18026 58 66_Re: Habonim: the Zionist club that became a factory for creativity0_14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM29_Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:52:02 EDT557_US-ASCII Very interesting article. Sylvia
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18085 390 44_Re: a favor for a friend- The Routine of War16_ALLAN S PRISTOOP21_acpristo5@VERIZON.NET31_Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:02:22 -0400595_iso-8859-1 I was unable to find this at either source listed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Barland To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: a favor for a friend- The Routine of War
My name is Bethe Schoenfeld, PhD, and I have been living in Israel since 1980. When the Second Lebanon War broke out last year I was in the States with my husband and daughter visiting family and friends. We decided to return to Israel and our home, never believing that the hostilities would last for 34 days. We live on Kibbutz Gesher Haziv in [...]
18476 97 44_Re: a favor for a friend- The Routine of War16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:57:44 -0700364_iso-8859-1 It may not be in print yet. On Amazon Canada, I saw the ad as well. Rozzie
ALLAN S PRISTOOP wrote: I was unable to find this at either source listed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Barland To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: a favor for a friend- The Routine of War [...]
18574 183 43_Fwd: Fw: Pete Seeger's MOVIE! (scroll down)16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:00:26 -0700575_iso-8859-1 http://weinsteinco.com/ This is the trailer for the movie. Rozzie
Note: forwarded message attached.
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18758 185 35_Will there be a war? Call the shot!13_moshe sheskin18_moshes80@GMAIL.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:08:36 +0200396_ISO-8859-1 *War, yes or no* ** *By Moshe Sheskin*
*The Western nations, in accordance with democratic principles are very keen to have their citizens accept the fact that they may be attacked by an enemy state. Thus, we have preemptive wars and/or skirmishes but at all times, there is a tacit agreement or a virtual contract between the citizen and the leadership. * [...]
18944 105 38_Empire State Building Goes Muslim.....13_moshe sheskin18_moshes80@GMAIL.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:15:20 +0200465_ISO-8859-1 Empire State Building Goes Muslim. Don't Stare. By *Julia Gorin *( bio )
One night sometime after the 9/11 attacks, my husband and I were driving in Manhattan and as we passed the Empire State Building he asked me:
"So, do you think it's gloating now that the competition is out of the way, or does it feel guilty?" [...]
19050 66 38_Between Rachel's Tomb and Rabin Square16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:48:47 -0700579_iso-8859-1 w w w . h a a r e t z . c o m --------------------------------- Last update - 02:41 24/10/2007 Between Rachel's Tomb and Rabin Square By Nadav Shragai
Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated on the 11th of Heshvan, 5756, the date of the death of the matriarch Rachel, according to Jewish tradition. Anyone who was at Rachel's Tomb on that terrible night saw the thousands who came to pray for the annulment of the Oslo agreement standing beside their cars with the radio turned on, Psalm books in their hands, as they prayed together with the soldiers guarding the [...]
19117 332 47_Re: Fwd: Fw: Pete Seeger's MOVIE! (scroll down)11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:07:37 -0400824_windows-1252 It is a wonderful movie. See it if you can! Judy
Rosalind Barland wrote:
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19450 138 47_Re: Fwd: Fw: Pete Seeger's MOVIE! (scroll down)16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:17:20 -0700461_iso-8859-1 Hard to see from Israel, unless it screens here. Rozzie
Judy Gelman wrote: It is a wonderful movie.� See it if you can! Judy
Rosalind Barland wrote: http://weinsteinco.com/ This is the trailer for the� movie. Rozzie
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19589 94 42_Re: Empire State Building Goes Muslim.....0_21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:31:12 -0400435_us-ascii Moshe,
You didn't say, but I'm assuming you forwarded this to the list because you agree with the prespective or find it interesting in some way.
So let me ask a few questions.
1) The author writes "two months after 19 of their people killed 3,000 of ours" - this seems to imply there were no Muslims among the 3,000. Were they warned not to go to work that day? Where have I heard similar nonsense? [...]
19684 25 39_Empire State Building lighting schedule11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:01:21 -0400563_ISO-8859-1 Eid Al Firt was Oct 12 this year and the first year ESB lit up for the holiday. As the attached schedule shows, this puts it on a par with Poly Prep Country Day School
Judy Gelman
http://www.esbnyc.com/tourism/tourism_lightingschedule.cfm
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19710 254 42_Re: Empire State Building Goes Muslim.....13_moshe sheskin18_moshes80@GMAIL.COM31_Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:25:15 +0200535_ISO-8859-1 Noam, Shalom, Actually, my sending this particular article was not intended for the list but it got through, no doubt an error on my part and if it upsets you, I apologize. In reply to the questions you ask, perhaps I can best answer by telling you something of myself and my association with Habonim. I am one of the vatikim and I guess we don't have too many around anymore. In fact, I am a graduate of Smithville, the Hechalutz farm of the 40's. I was always active in Habonim and held the views of many and while I [...]
19965 650 42_Re: Empire State Building Goes Muslim.....11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:01:27 -0400297_iso-8859-1 Hi Moshe,
Thanks for the reply. First let me tell you that no threat was intended. There is no rule here that one must voice only views that all agree with - what a boring list that would be. I'm not upset, I just disagree and object to portions of the viewpoint expressed. [...]
20616 246 47_Re: Fwd: Fw: Pete Seeger's MOVIE! (scroll down)0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:29:32 -0400
20863 159 17_War, yes or no???13_moshe sheskin18_moshes80@GMAIL.COM31_Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:42:48 +0200390_ISO-8859-1 *War, yes or no* *By* *Moshe Sheskin*
* *
*The Western nations, in accordance with democratic principles are very keen to have their citizens accept the fact that they may be attacked by an enemy state. Thus, we have preemptive wars and/or skirmishes but at all times, there is a tacit agreement or a virtual contract between the citizen and the leadership. * [...]
21023 174 19_an interesting read16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:34:15 -0700496_iso-8859-1 the article on the home page comparing adam&eve from Torah w/Koran version I thought interesting. rozzie Multiamediall.com > > overs computer media areas including broadcast, digital video, Mpeg, > and Flash. > > http://www.multiamediall.com/ > (http://www.multiamediall.com/)
Adam and eve
Adam's creation Traditional woodblock print portraying Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden with many of the "lower creatures." - Alamo to Drpep - Dupot to Prime [...]
21198 55 18_Not getting emails0_25_ddwgreen@NETVISION.NET.IL31_Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:47:13 +0200515_iso-8859-1 I just realized I haven't gotten any Habonets in over a week.
Help.
Trudy
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21254 79 22_Re: Not getting emails13_avi rosenberg17_avir673@GMAIL.COM31_Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:56 +0200683_ISO-8859-1 Maybe everybody just ran out of things to say. Avi
On 10/31/07, ddwgreen@netvision.net.il wrote: > > I just realized I haven't gotten any Habonets in over a week. > > Help. > > Trudy > ------------------------------ > > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network, > a service of Hebrew College , which offers > online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies. > > > To unsubscribe email HABONET-unsubscribe-request@SHAMASH.ORG > For other options go to: http://listserv.SHAMASH.ORG/ > > [...]
21334 50 26_Attacking Iran for Israel?11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM31_Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:09:29 -0600708_us-ascii The Bush administration and the Israeli government are on the same page about the urgent need to neutralize Iran's nuclear facilities. But former CIA analyst Ray McGovern wonders whose interests are at the forefront of this impending conflict.
For the full story, go to http://www.consortiumnews.com
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21385 1341 23_WP - Nature or Nurture?16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:41:16 -0400846_ISO-8859-1 washingtonpost.com Nature or Nurture? Well, Smart Guy?
Live long and prosper. Or should I say
Live long and prosper. Or should I say "mazel tov"? (CBS Paramount)
By Dana Milbank Tuesday, October 30, 2007; A02
The forum at the usually sober American Enterprise Institute yesterday started off with a bit of Borscht Belt humor. AEI adjunct fellow Jon Entine displayed a cartoon of a tablet-carrying Moses looking incredulously toward the heavens. [...]
22727 90 30_Re: Attacking Iran for Israel?0_13_jlcaa@AOL.COM31_Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:09:20 -0400546_us-ascii This is so off base it is tragic.
The reason the US and Dick Cheney are preoccupied with Iran has little to do with Israel and much more to do with oil. A nuclear armed Iran posses a threat to the Gulf oil states and the role OPEC plays in setting world oil prices. The minute Iran develops a real nuclear weapon you can kiss OPEC good-bye and Iran will be the power determining world oil prices, thus returning Iran to the "glory days" of the Persian Empire when the world took Persia seriously as a major power.? A nuclear [...]
22818 1381 34_[QUAR] Re: WP - Nature or Nurture?0_17_smfgrappa@AOL.COM31_Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:09:34 -0400584_utf-8
It is well to remember that back in the twenties psychologist were saying the Jews were basically mentally retarded based on the use of the Army intelligence test on Jewish immigrants at Ellis Island.
The data was used to block immigration of Jews and other eastern Eurpoens of inferior intelligence from coming to America. With Hitler on his way, this bit of psuedo psychology cost the lives of millions of Jews. For a review of that era get the book Mismeasure of Man by Stephan Jay Gould. In the same book you can read a devesating critique of Murray and [...]