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2 84 52_The Crisis in Turkey and the implications for Israel16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM30_Tue, 1 May 2007 06:46:15 -0700644_iso-8859-1 The Crisis in Turkey: Implications for Israel
by
Dr. Robert O. Freedman
The current crisis in Turkey, which pits Turkey's secularist armed forces against the AKP,the Islamist political party currently ruling Turkey, over the choice of Turkey's next president, has important ramifications for Israel. If the AKP Party prevails, despite the hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets of Ankara and Istanbul, the Islamist foreign policy which it has undertaken over the last few years is likely to accelerate, much to the detriment of Israeli-Turkish (and US-Turkish) relations. [...]
87 95 26_Fw: pearl skolnik yahrzeit13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET30_Tue, 1 May 2007 17:02:01 -0400423_windows-1255
----- Original Message ----- From: fred skolnik To: HABONET-request@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: pearl skolnik yahrzeit
To all friends
Pearl's Yahrzeit will be held on May 14 at 4 p.m. at the Givat Shaul cemetery in Jerusalem with a gathering of family and friends afterwards.
We'll meet in the parking lot at the end of the main road in. [...]
183 86 18_Re: Not Pedestrian12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Tue, 1 May 2007 14:55:14 -0700420_iso-8859-1 Where else but in the Jewish State could one find such a piece of art on the phone company building?--Just another reason to be proud and enjoy the uniqueness of Israel....I was just editng an article from JTA about weddings in Israel- and about how many people from abroad are coming there to get married--and one of the most favored places is Neot Kedumim--SO a hearty congrats to Helen Frenkely!--sue [...]
270 49 30_Re: Fw: pearl skolnik yahrzeit0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET30_Tue, 1 May 2007 22:36:38 -0400
320 110 18_Re: Not Pedestrian12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Wed, 2 May 2007 07:16:44 +0200359_iso-8859-1 Sue, There are two schools on the goal of zionism. My choice is a place where the Jews can have a base in which to develop normalcy like all other peoples. The other is where else but in the Jewish State... As to art on public buildings, Diego Rivera's socialist realism in Mexico comes to mind. Soviet Union public art and WPA projects also. [...]
431 176 18_Re: Not Pedestrian12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Tue, 1 May 2007 23:08:13 -0700522_iso-8859-1 AHH!!--AMnon- you hit two birds with one stone and therein lies the interesting facts: yes- socialist realism and public art- but how many are quotes and mosaics from Bereshit???....This brings up my history with the :"Aleinu"- which I refused to say until recntly--that the Hans Kohn nationalism where we are supposed to be " a nation like any other nation"--yet we are different: seems schizophrenia is not only a psychotic experience- but perhaps part of being normal in a Jewish State....Huh?????. sue [...]
608 132 18_Re: Not Pedestrian13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Wed, 2 May 2007 11:19:55 +0300432_us-ascii Amnon, did you ever actually see the sort of public "art" they had in the old Soviet Union? I was there and thought it was pretty hideous (along with just about everything else there).
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon hadary Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:17 AM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: Not Pedestrian [...]
741 415 18_Re: Not Pedestrian0_14_kbob24@AOL.COM30_Wed, 2 May 2007 11:19:21 -0400299_us-ascii I have, however, seen some of the Diego Rivera work in Mexico and it is outstanding!
As for the Soviet Union, I don't recall the art, but I do remember seeing the apartment buildings in Moscow in the 70s and saying "so that is where Tel Aviv got its architectural inspiration." [...]
1157 44 8_politics13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET30_Wed, 2 May 2007 08:53:23 -0700555_iso-8859-1 The political system in Israel is in turmoil again as a result of the release of part of the Vinograd report. The system is in general very unstable, and it goes through these cyclical turmoils every 9 months or so.
In any case, there is a little piece of information on the prospects for change that set my antennas on alert: one of the candidates to replace Peretz as the leader of Labor is our old friend Ehud Barak. Boy, what a tragic mistake that would be... I certainly hope that the gods of the greek comedy which is Israeli [...]
1202 227 18_Re: Not Pedestrian12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Wed, 2 May 2007 18:14:55 +0200340_us-ascii Shut off your phone google Diego Rivera and his wife Frida Kalo and enjoy a treat. You can click on the web sites of picrtures too and judge the man's genius for yourselves. Amnon
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1430 248 18_Re: Not Pedestrian12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Wed, 2 May 2007 16:59:16 -0700574_iso-8859-1 Last year the JNF asked artists to redesign the blue box and they had an exhibit on one of the streets in Tel Aviv with HUGE boxes--It was a sight! (I saw pictures).....ANd I just finished some email and internet stuff with the Museum on the Seam in Jerusalem ( very interesting website)--so Israel is not lacking in artists.....or artistic expressions...and when it is tieed to Judaism in some form, it is very interesting--So...how are we "not like other nations"????..and how arre we just liek other natioons????...sounds like a KM Bet sicha to me....sue [...]
1679 160 34_Fwd: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Wed, 2 May 2007 17:01:47 -0700612_iso-8859-1 My freind and former madricha Marian Rosenfeld Kirman sent this to me toady--thought I would pass it on...sue
--- Marian Kirman wrote:
> From: "Marian Kirman" > To: "Marian Kirman" > Subject: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 17:12:16 -0400 > > > > > > Marian > > > > I thought this was a very moving tribute to > Professor Librescu who > sacrificed his life to save his students at Virginia > Tech.The Israeli > teacher and Holocaust survivor was known worldwide > as an aeronautical > engineer [...]
1840 56 33_Re: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM28_Wed, 2 May 2007 22:25:22 EDT599_US-ASCII Sue, what a beautiful tribute and how moving. Thanks for sharing. Sylvia
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1897 210 38_Re: Fwd: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Thu, 3 May 2007 07:08:21 +0200325_us-ascii By no criterion but one that I can think of, does' A Poem for Liviu Librescu ' cut it as a poem; it moved me as I read it. Amnon
----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liberman Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:04 am Subject: Fwd: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
2108 36 82_Osirak Redux? Assessing Israeli Capabilities to Destroy Iranian Nuclear Facilities13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Thu, 3 May 2007 10:25:52 +0300625_us-ascii Some of the good folks at MIT have just figured how many bombs it would take for the Israeli Air Force to blow up Iran's entire nuclear weapons infrastructure. Apparently, it isn't so hard after all. MIT concludes, however:
"The foregoing assessment is far from definitive in its evaluation of Israeli military potential. However it does seem to indicate that the IAF, after years of modernization, now possesses the capability to destroy even well-hardened targets in Iran with some degree of confidence. The operation appears to be no more risky than the earlier attack on Osirak and provides at least [...]
2145 237 38_Re: Fwd: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Thu, 3 May 2007 07:36:57 -0700580_iso-8859-1 Yeah--I also felt the same way--too used to free-style, etc....but I was also moved...It hit me when I read the line "I was saved that day to save this day....".....sue
--- amnon hadary wrote:
> By no criterion but one that I can think of, does' A > Poem for Liviu Librescu ' cut it as a poem; it > moved me as I read it. > Amnon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Liberman > Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:04 am > Subject: Fwd: FW: A Poem for Liviu Librescu > To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
2383 47 86_Re: Osirak Redux? Assessing Israeli Capabilities to Destroy Iranian Nuclear Facilities12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Thu, 3 May 2007 20:42:37 +0200416_us-ascii ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:28 am Subject: Osirak Redux? Assessing Israeli Capabilities to Destroy Iranian Nuclear Facilities To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> > > If anyone is interested in reading the entire report, just ask me > and I will > send it as an attached .PDF file > Much as I hate blood, please send me a copy Amnon [...]
2431 97 86_Re: Osirak Redux? Assessing Israeli Capabilities to Destroy Iranian Nuclear Facilities13_Moshe Sheskin23_moshe.sheskin@GMAIL.COM30_Thu, 3 May 2007 17:55:08 -0400590_ISO-8859-1 Thanks. would you please send me a copy:
moshe.sheskin@gmail.com
On 5/3/07, amnon hadary wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Baum > Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:28 am > Subject: Osirak Redux? Assessing Israeli Capabilities to Destroy Iranian > Nuclear Facilities > To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > > > > > > > If anyone is interested in reading the entire report, just ask me > > and I will > > send it as an attached .PDF file > > > Much as I hate blood, please send me a copy > Amnon > > [...]
2529 221 102_[BULK] If people were really free, they=?windows-1255?Q?=92d?= accept this fate instantly, joyously...13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Fri, 4 May 2007 11:56:40 +0300600_windows-1255 There Is No God but Politics
by Theodore Dalrymple (May 2007)
In my youth (in which I include my early adulthood), I read a lot of philosophy. In those days, I picked up books of metaphysics with an excitement that I cannot now recapture, and that completely mystifies me, indeed seems to me faintly ridiculous. I still cannot quite make up my mind, however, whether or not I wasted my time. After all, I was a medical student, not someone training to be an intellectual. I doubt that philosophy made me a better person, let alone a better doctor, but [...]
2751 64 79_Re: [BULK] If people were really free, they=?windows-1255?Q?=92d?= accept th...0_15_Emabear@AOL.COM28_Fri, 4 May 2007 13:30:51 EDT577_US-ASCII Please forgive my ignorance but could you please tell me who the author is and the slant of the paper in which it appeared. I found it a good read so am curious. Ellen
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2816 140 58_Re: [BULK] If people were really free, they'd accept th...13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Fri, 4 May 2007 22:05:54 +0300568_us-ascii Ellen, I honestly don't know. I just found the article entertaining so I passed it along.
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Emabear@AOL.COM Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:31 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: [BULK] If people were really free, they'd accept th...
Please forgive my ignorance but could you please tell me who the author is and the slant of the paper in which it appeared. I found it a good read so am curious. Ellen [...]
2957 47 26_This one you have to watch16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM30_Fri, 4 May 2007 18:36:53 -0700545_iso-8859-1 http://www.glumbert.com/media/irack
--------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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3005 1629 39_NYT - The Philosopher of Islamic Terror16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET30_Sat, 5 May 2007 03:53:25 -0400636_us-ascii Jon Baum's reading is quite eclectic. The New English Review piece he forwarded by the pseudonymous Theodore Dalrymple points out Marxism and Islamism are systems which claim tautology of thought and behavior. The bizarre analogy of Marxism and Islamism is, in fact, quite intriguing and worth investigation and contemplation. The New English Review is a conservative-slanting online journal, I presume, based in England. I make this observation based on a cursory review of the articles in its current issue as well as from the bios of its authors and editors. Speaking of Islamism, I append below a seminal article from [...]
4635 72 30_Re: This one you have to watch12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Sat, 5 May 2007 13:43:39 +0200762_us-ascii Rozzie The sleeper is in the last frame. It's clearly in the future of us all.
Amnon
----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Barland Date: Saturday, May 5, 2007 3:39 am Subject: This one you have to watch To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> http://www.glumbert.com/media/irack > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by > Shamash: The Jewish Network, http://shamash.org, > a service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and > an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ > [...]
4708 80 30_Re: This one you have to watch16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM30_Sat, 5 May 2007 05:29:40 -0700778_iso-8859-1 Certainly looks like it from here.
amnon hadary wrote: Rozzie The sleeper is in the last frame. It's clearly in the future of us all.
Amnon
----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Barland Date: Saturday, May 5, 2007 3:39 am Subject: This one you have to watch To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
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4789 99 30_Re: This one you have to watch17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM30_Sat, 5 May 2007 09:28:51 -0500572_ISO-8859-1 The video is very entertaining and highlights the twisted reasoning of the Bushies. But there are no troops, no equipment, no money, no will and absolutely no support for our incompetent and corrupt leadership to embark on such an insane expansion of this disastrous war. Congress is not in the mood to approve of any such action and without that Dubya would be looking at immediate impeachment. At this point George Bush is a just a post turtle: * While stitching a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while he [...]
4889 89 30_Re: This one you have to watch12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Sat, 5 May 2007 09:08:33 -0700601_iso-8859-1 I saw this, I think, on YouTube- and ti was accompanied by outtakes which were also quite funny ( and sad)!!....really inventive......sue
--- Shawn Eli Barland wrote:
> The video is very entertaining and highlights > the twisted reasoning > of the Bushies. But there are no troops, no > equipment, no money, no > will and absolutely no support for our incompetent > and corrupt > leadership to embark on such an insane expansion of > this disastrous war. > Congress is not in the mood to approve of any such > action and without > that Dubya [...]
4979 25 56_The complete explanation of Israeli Judaism for non-Jews11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM30_Sat, 5 May 2007 17:33:51 -0400575_ISO-8859-1 ...OR "What I learned from my friends on Shomernet" (That's where I got this.)
Enjoy! Judy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gjIK1hTR78
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5005 181 18_Re: Not Pedestrian11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM30_Sat, 5 May 2007 18:47:45 -0400362_ISO-8859-1 Tel Aviv (the internationally recognized "White City") at least had a great concept (bauhaus) but it very much the worse for wear. I always thought Tel Aviv was pretty awful too until I saw some of the restored buildings. They are really magnificent, if you like 1920's-1940's modern. I've never heard anyone claim anything for the Soviets. Judy [...]
5187 786 18_Re: Not Pedestrian12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Mon, 7 May 2007 08:37:21 +0200388_windows-1252 Bauhaus Judy, You wrote:Tel Aviv (the internationally recognized "White City") at least had a great concept (bauhaus) but it very much the worse for wear. I always thought Tel Aviv was pretty awful too until I saw some of the restored buildings. They are really magnificent, if you like 1920's-1940's modern. I've never heard anyone claim anything for the Soviets. Judy [...]
5974 177 59_I think they should have taken some of "us" on as advisors!5_Aviva18_deang@BEZEQINT.NET30_Mon, 7 May 2007 15:15:58 +0200664_windows-1255
[aviva] [deang@netvision.net.il] Has sent you an article from Haaretz The URL is http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/856320.html
www.haaretz.co.il Haaretz English www.haaretz.com
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6152 135 63_Re: I think they should have taken some of "us" on as advisors!0_16_gttaylor@ATT.NET30_Mon, 7 May 2007 13:22:59 +0000664_- Very cute idea. Cindy
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6288 131 39_Soccer game for priests, imams canceled13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Mon, 7 May 2007 17:13:40 +0300545_us-ascii
Soccer game for priests, imams canceled
Sat May 5, 6:52 PM ET
A soccer game between Muslim imams and Christian priests at the end of a conference to promote interfaith dialogue was canceled Saturday because the teams could not agree on whether women priests should take part.
Church of Norway spokesman Olav Fykse Tveit said the imams refused to play against a mixed-gender team of priests because it would have gone against their beliefs in avoiding close physical contact with strange women. [...]
6420 78 63_Re: I think they should have taken some of "us" on as advisors!12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 7 May 2007 07:40:18 -0700657_iso-8859-1 Sounds like he's dong very well without Habonim's "advice"--Maybe our camps should ask him for some...sue
--- gttaylor@ATT.NET wrote:
> Very cute idea. > Cindy > > -------------- Original message from Aviva > : -------------- > > > > [aviva] [deang@netvision.net.il] Has sent you an > article from Haaretz > The URL is > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/856320.html > > > > > > > www.haaretz.co.il > Haaretz English > www.haaretz.com > > > > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by Shamash: The > Jewish Network, a service of Hebrew College, which > offers online courses and an online MA [...]
6499 268 29_Re: Not Pedestrian-Lag B'Omer12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 7 May 2007 07:53:53 -0700553_iso-8859-1 Spekaing of "pedestrian"- Saturday night I went with a friend to a house in Beverly Hills--to the back yard. A medurah was burning, and a circle of chairs was set up ( sound familiar?)....After a while, a man, who looked like he had stepped out fo a painting arrived, --about 70-75-dressed in an "all Chassidic" get up from head to toe, with a beautiful white beard, and a kind face. He started to fiddle with a "keyboard" and couldn't get it to work; so he picked up a guitar and started to play, and talk. His name is Rabbi Greenberg, [...]
6768 480 18_barry s.: Hebonics5_Aviva18_deang@BEZEQINT.NET30_Mon, 7 May 2007 18:17:00 +0200558_windows-1255
!
Subject: Hebonics
New York City Public Schools have officially declared Jewish English, now dubbed Hebonics, as a second language. Backers of the move say the city schools are the first in the nation to recognize Hebonics as a valid language and a significant attribute of American culture. According to Howard Ashland, linguistics professor at Brooklyn College and renowned Hebonics scholar, the sentence structure of Hebonics derives from middle and eastern European language patterns, as well as Yiddish. [...]
7249 667 30_HaAretz - Ahad HaAm on Zionism16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET30_Mon, 7 May 2007 13:28:55 -0400432_us-ascii
w w w . h a a r e t z . c o m ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last update - 22:38 15/03/2007
Salvager of a culture
By Steven J. Zipperstein
"Hayei ahad haam: psifas mitokh ktavav uktavim aherim" ("The Life of Ahad Haam: A Web of Writings of Ahad Haam and Others" by Shulamit Laskov, Tel Aviv University, World Zionist Federation, 666 pages [...]
7917 29 17_T-shirt dismissal12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 7 May 2007 15:00:29 -0700721_iso-8859-1 There was a rreport in the Jerusalem Post about a girl who was refused service at a food coop becuase she wore a pro-israel T-shirt--Judy- do you know anything about this???...sue
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7947 49 21_Re: T-shirt dismissal11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM30_Mon, 7 May 2007 19:07:16 -0400800_ISO-8859-1 Please send me the article. Was it in the DC area?????? I haven't heard anything. Judy
Sue Liberman wrote:
>There was a rreport in the Jerusalem Post about a girl >who was refused service at a food coop becuase she >wore a pro-israel T-shirt--Judy- do you know anything >about this???...sue > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Bored stiff? Loosen up... >Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. >http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The HABONET mailing list is hosted by >Shamash: The Jewish Network, http://shamash.org, >a service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and >an online MA in Jewish Studies, [...]
7997 120 21_Re: T-shirt dismissal12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Mon, 7 May 2007 16:32:58 -0700651_iso-8859-1 Sorry- it was a JTA breaking news article..s
Pro-Israel student refused service
E-mail News Brief Tell the Editors A Maryland food co-op is discussing its customer service policy after a pro-Israel student was refused service.
In late April, a checkout person at the Maryland Food Collective told a student that her "I Stand With Israel T-Shirt" was offensive, and refused to serve her, according to diamondbackonline.com, the University of Maryland newspaper. The student found another worker to help her but left the store "emotionally distraught," said Avi Mayer, president of the Pro-Israel Terrapin Alliance. [...]
8118 439 22_Re: barry s.: Hebonics17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM30_Mon, 7 May 2007 19:57:43 -0500562_windows-1255 Are you trying to make me bust a kishka? It could seriously hurt me so hard I am laughing!
Aviva wrote: > > > > ! > > > > > *Subject:* Hebonics > > > > New York City Public Schools have officially declared Jewish English, > now dubbed Hebonics, as a second language. Backers of the move say > the city schools are the first in the nation to recognize Hebonics as > a valid language and a significant attribute of American culture. > According to Howard Ashland, linguistics professor at Brooklyn > College and renowned Hebonics scholar, [...]
8558 345 57_Re: HABONET Digest - 5 May 2007 to 7 May 2007 (#2007-121)12_Jessica Bonn21_jessicab@BEZEQINT.NET30_Tue, 8 May 2007 09:17:08 +0300586_windows-1255 HABONET Digest - 5 May 2007 to 7 May 2007 (#2007-121)Bilingual school Old City Trip report from Yonati Bonn-Yavneh Grade four of the Yad b'Yad Jewish-Arab Bilingual school spent yesterday in the Old City visiting holy sites of the 3 major mon. religions. On the dome, the guard was willing to only let the Moslems into the mosque (apparently it depends on the whims of the guard) and so the class decided together that they'd all remain outside. At the kotel, the two Arab teachers were singled out for a special search and requested to produce identity cards. Of all [...]
8904 117 30_Re: This one you have to watch11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Tue, 8 May 2007 15:58:56 -0700495_iso-8859-1 These days I only have one question for the people having fun putting Bush down; Knowing he is inarticulate and probably dyslexic and other learning disabled, and also allowing he shows a severe deficit in the charisma department- still, . . . . .who besides George Bush stands between us and the bad guys? Would I prefer someone more intelligent? More compassionate? More protective of the planet? You bet I would. Is George all we have? Unfortunately, yes. But it's still yes. [...]
9022 43 30_Re: This one you have to watch17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM30_Tue, 8 May 2007 18:29:07 -0500558_ISO-8859-1 Wake up and smell the coffee. Bush has made us more vulnerable in every way possible. He has broken our military, alienated our friends, empowered our enemies, strengthened Al Qaeda, created a failed state in Iraq, destabilized the entire Middle East, left gaping holes in our border security...I could go on and on and on. I do not have "fun" putting Bush down. His incompetence and stupidity scare the hell out of me. Bin Laden probably sits in a mountain retreat somewhere planning a nuclear holocaust for us while George W. Bush fiddles. [...]
9066 88 30_Re: This one you have to watch12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Tue, 8 May 2007 17:15:57 -0700457_iso-8859-1 And not to mention his dispicable attacks on the Governor of Kansas for her statements that she had no heavy equipment to help clean up after the tornado becuase it was all in Iraq....How unconsciounable that he would attack her in the middle of such a terrible state just to soothe his own ego....Sorry Steve, I find Bush impossible and an idiot, and an embarrassment to our country....Sue --- Shawn Eli Barland wrote: [...]
9155 632 35_Rehabilitating Israel's Land Forces13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Wed, 9 May 2007 07:20:32 +0300991_us-ascii Rehabilitating Israel's Land Forces Commander Discusses Post-Lebanon War Changes to Army
When Maj. Gen. Benjamin Gantz moved to Land Forces Headquarters in late 2005, he took charge of the most dominant, autonomous organization in the history of Israeli land warfare. Changes that had been germinating since the 1973 Yom Kippur War ended finally were implemented Jan. 1, 2006, when the Land Forces Command became a separate branch of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Like the Air Force and Navy, it now had all the components and budget authority needed to organize, train, equip [...]
9788 56 39_Re: Rehabilitating Israel's Land Forces12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Wed, 9 May 2007 07:01:41 +0200424_us-ascii Jan The article touched on some important issues facing the IDF after Lebanon War II. The text often comes thru as laughable. If the interview was conducted in English then Gen Gantz's command of the language needs serious attention. But the editorial responsibility of the Armed Forces Journal was to get a version less palpably gibberish. Still, on balance it was informative and I'm glad you sent it. Amnon [...]
9845 459 41_[QUAR] America's Efforts To Spy On Israel17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 06:20:32 -0500658_ISO-8859-1 The New Republic Online
America's efforts to spy on Israel.
Spy Games
by Gregory Levey Only at TNR Online Post date: 05.08.07
In George Tenet's new book, /At the Center of the Storm/, the former CIA director claims that, when the Israeli government sought the release of jailed Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in 1998, it was at Tenet's insistence that the former Navy intelligence analyst was kept behind bars. People who say Israel cannot be trusted by the United States have long pointed to Pollard as the case in point. In 2004, Pat Buchanan wrote, "Washington today is rife [...]
10305 72 30_Re: This one you have to watch11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 08:06:13 -0700478_iso-8859-1 Shawn
I guess I am just drinking a different brand of coffee.
I can deal with our differences of opinion.
By the way, who is the mystery person that was going to do the better job of defending us? Gore?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Eli Barland" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: This one you have to watch [...]
10378 78 34_Fw: Fw: Wake Up, You Westerners!!!11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 08:35:14 -0700573_iso-8859-1
We bought Ms. Gabriel's book and are avidly reading it. This clip has to be seen, even if you have heard her before.
Steve
Warning: The interview was on Fox, so non-Fox-watchers should pass this one up.
Wake Up, Westerners!!!
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10457 214 19_Fw: Penny Postcards11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 08:43:11 -0700470_iso-8859-1 AOL Email Too nostalgia-inducing not to send along.
Steve
Here's a bit of nostalgia.
Postcards were a penny in the 1930's and 1940's
Here is a site that shows penny picture postcards from your home town.
Notice any changes?
Howard
What did your town look like according to Penny Postcards.
Check out your old stomping grounds during the times of the penny postcard. [...]
10672 171 39_Re: Rehabilitating Israel's Land Forces13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Wed, 9 May 2007 19:10:59 +0300354_us-ascii Amnon,
No offense, but this is the way soldiers talk. Especially when they are trying to say: "The people who are presently are and formally were in charge fucked up big time and now we have to clean up the mess."
In the course of my job I read a lot of interviews with generals. General Gantz is like Yeats compared to some. [...]
10844 37 27_AVI'S COMEDY TOUR IN ISRAEL12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 13:39:51 -0700329_iso-8859-1 FOR ANYONE INTERESTED, HERE IS THE SCHEDULE FOR AVI'S TOUR WITH THE3 COMICS- AVI WAS BORN WHEN WE LIVED IN GEHSER HAZIV..I KEEP TRYING TO GET A GIG IN THE NORTH...MAYBE NEXT YEAR--SUE
June 21 Hashmonaim June 24 Tel Aviv ZOA House June 26 Raanana Yad Lbanim June 27 Jerusalem Yellow Submarine June 28 Efrat [...]
10882 239 30_Re: This one you have to watch17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 19:08:46 -0500591_ISO-8859-1 Steve, You are not drinking another brand of coffee. This is not a difference of opinion. This is about facts and reality. Facts and reality are just inconvenient obstacles that conspire against the corrupt machinations of the wingnut ideologues in the Bush administration. Our military commanders all agree that their is no military solution to the situation in Iraq. Case closed. To ignore your own generals in the field is idiocy and Bush has done it since /before/ the word go. Who can do a better job of defending us? There are numerous people who could do a far better [...]
11122 242 37_[Fwd: Re: This one you have to watch]13_Judith Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 21:17:56 -0400546_us-ascii
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: This one you have to watch Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:32:58 -0400 From: Judith Gelman To: Steve Klein References: <392803.91398.qm@web43144.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <05d501c791c4$75456c50$6400a8c0@DEN> <464107C3.2000105@wi.rr.com> <08cc01c7924b$95cde650$6400a8c0@DEN>
Off the top of my head, here is partial list---Biden, Clark, Clinton, Dodd, Edwards, Obama, Richardson. Judy
Steve Klein wrote: [...]
11365 171 41_Re: [Fwd: Re: This one you have to watch]12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 20:43:34 -0700748_iso-8859-1 Yeah- I was thinking the same thing--nothing like a bitchy broad to keep America safe! :)... (tongue-in-cheek b ut half way truthful...I think Clinton H woud have been more insightful and wouldn't have "rushed to judgements" in this case)..sue
--- Judith Gelman wrote:
> > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: This one you have to watch > Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:32:58 -0400 > From: Judith Gelman > To: Steve Klein > References: > <392803.91398.qm@web43144.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > <05d501c791c4$75456c50$6400a8c0@DEN> > <464107C3.2000105@wi.rr.com> > <08cc01c7924b$95cde650$6400a8c0@DEN> > > > > Off the top of my head, here is [...]
11537 571 52_Fw: Fw: Our World: Hirsi Ali's challenge to humanity11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 21:19:52 -0700703_iso-8859-1
If only we had a few thousand more courageous people such as Hirsi Ali.
Steve
>>Our World: Hirsi Ali's challenge to humanity >> >>________________________________ >> >>Caroline Glick, THE JERUSALEM POST May. 7, 2007 >>________________________________ >> >> >>Ayaan Hirsi Ali is arguably the bravest and most remarkable >>woman of our times. >> >>To understand why this 37-year-old woman is extraordinary, >>she must be assessed in the context of the forces pitted >>against her in her twin struggles to force the Western world >>to take note of Islam's divinely ordained enslavement of >>women, and to force the Islamic world to account for [...]
12109 637 63_Israel's Postwar Commission Urges: Crisis Management Imperative13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Thu, 10 May 2007 07:19:39 +0300709_us-ascii
Israel's Postwar Commission Urges: Crisis Management Imperative
By David Eshel
A major issue, which the Winograd Investigatory Commission emphasized repeatedly in their April 30 Interim Report, is largely contributed to the failures and weakness of high-level staff work at the decision-making process of the political leadership. In a democratic state, it should be irrelevant whether the man at the top is a seasoned military veteran, or a civilian with the necessary faculties to lead a nation in peace and war. Therefore a strong crisis management team, manned by professionals, having the trust and loyalty of the supreme leadership- now seems [...]
12747 365 30_Re: This one you have to watch11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 21:32:31 -0700552_iso-8859-1 Shawn
With all due respect, I get jittery when I am dealing with "reality" and "facts" as if they are "TRUTH". I got fired once for responding to my boss who had just proclaimed in the office that she had the "true religion". I looked up from my paperwork long enough to quip, "Oh, I have one of those also". I survived the witchhunt that followed, but I will never forget the change in my relationship with this person. We poor humans have the concept of truth and facts and reality, but alas, they are based on our very narrow [...]
13113 918 41_Ripoff Mickey Mouse says 'destroy Israel'11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Wed, 9 May 2007 21:36:02 -0700629_iso-8859-1
Rip-off Mickey Mouse says 'destroy Israel' Wednesday May 9 13:09 AEST
Hamas militants have enlisted the iconic Mickey Mouse to broadcast their message of Islamic dominion and armed resistance to their most impressionable audience - little kids.
A giant black-and-white rodent - named "Farfour," or "butterfly," but unmistakably a Mickey ripoff - does his high-pitched preaching against the US and Israel on a children's show run each Friday on Al-Aqsa TV, a station run by Hamas. The militant group, sworn to Israel's destruction, shares power in the Palestinian government. [...]
14032 88 15_A good analysis16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 10 May 2007 06:05:44 -0700660_iso-8859-1 A good analysis.
Pragmatism and Ideology: Fatah, Hamas and the Arab League
Asher Susser
The Oslo accords set in motion a historical process of great promise, at least from the Israeli point of view. It quickly resulted in the creation of the Palestinian Authority (PA), whose President and Parliament were elected solely by the people of the West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinian problem could now seemingly be resolved within the 1967 boundaries: representative institutions had been created that appeared to be shifting the center of gravity of the Palestinian national endeavor from the Diaspora to the inside, i.e. the [...]
14121 840 7_article13_Steve Hancoff12_SHX2@AOL.COM29_Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:18 EDT654_UTF-8 I have never sent an article by someone else before, but I found this fascinating, and full of stuff I never knew. Thought others might also...Steven
America’s Worst Anti-Jewish Action
by Lewis Regenstein by Lewis Regenstein
DIGG THIS December 17, 2006 is the 144th anniversary of the worst official act of anti-Semitism in American history. On that day in 1862, in the midst of the Civil War, Union general Ulysses S. Grant issued his infamous "General Order #11," expelling all Jews "as a class" from his conquered territories within 24 hours. Henry Halleck, the Union general-in-chief, wired Grant in support [...]
14962 184 11_Re: article16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 10 May 2007 10:46:57 -0700542_iso-8859-1 Careful about your sources. While Grant's anti-semitism is well documented, this article is highly biased. First, it claims that slavery was not a cause of the Civil War. That's bung. Second, it also goes so far as to say, "one cannot help but respect teh dignity and gentlemanly policies of Lee. . . ." Robert E Lee fought to maintain a way of life based on human bondage. Hardly dignified. Finally, as this source points out, Grant went on to appoint Jews to his administration. Check out the link for a more balanced view. [...]
15147 47 11_Re: article13_Steve Hancoff12_SHX2@AOL.COM29_Thu, 10 May 2007 15:02:20 EDT542_US-ASCII Thank you, Roz...Steven
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15195 202 11_Re: article11_{AJ Gordon}20_coupdemots@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 10 May 2007 12:38:44 -0700433_iso-8859-1 Well, it's not completely bung. Anyone who has delved into history and political science beyond the cursory textbooks of high school and college intro classes knows that slavery was an issue insofar as it was part the South's economic infrastructure that was competing with Northern big business since it included free labor. It really was about dismantling the South's economy with the pretense of a moral argument. [...]
15398 255 11_Re: article16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 10 May 2007 13:01:59 -0700411_iso-8859-1 I am not a historian. From what I “know,” I think this article is seriously misleading. Grant, whom we all know could be an awful person, was a generally effective military officer). What was going on in his head? You can decide for yourself.
Here’s the General Order:
GENERAL ORDERS No. 11 HDQRS. 13TH A. C., DEPT. OF THE TENN. Holly Springs, Mississippi December 17, 1862. [...]
15654 273 11_Re: article11_{AJ Gordon}20_coupdemots@YAHOO.COM31_Thu, 10 May 2007 13:14:00 -0700612_iso-8859-1 Notice how it revolves around "trade" and "trade permits" as the underlying rationale? It's just another economic tactic instigated at some point by big business lobbies that in those times actually petitioned the executive branch to effect change when they perceived any threat their industries.
Rosalind Barland wrote: I am not a historian. From what I “know,” I think this article is seriously misleading. Grant, whom we all know could be an awful person, was a generally effective military officer). What was going on in his head? You can decide for yourself. [...]
15928 147 11_translation11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Thu, 10 May 2007 19:52:28 -0400562_us-ascii Hey if anybody fluent in Hebrew has the time. would you mind telling me how this song translates to English?
http://www.mp3music.co.il/Lyrics/6708.html
Thanks a GOOGOLPLEX.
JE
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16076 58 11_Re: article11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM29_Thu, 10 May 2007 21:46:17 EDT500_US-ASCII To all who sent the article...thank you for sharing. really foun d it in teresting. Sylvia
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16135 834 25_Re: translation for Julie22_ilan and Lorrie Israel24_ilanori@NETVISION.NET.IL31_Fri, 11 May 2007 18:23:11 +0300617_windows-1255 Julie, Shalom,
Here is a simple translation.
Best wishes,
Ilan Israel ( former British Habonim, ex-Kibbutz Gezer and shaliach to Moshava 1984-87.)
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16970 548 25_Re: translation for Julie11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Fri, 11 May 2007 15:41:07 +0000667_utf-8 Thanks a gOoGolPleX. I love this song. And I love Kaveret!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These same guys, btw, also wrote "Yoya."
----- Original Message ----- From: ilan and Lorrie Israel Date: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:23 am Subject: RE: translation for Julie To: jesris@optonline.net, HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> Julie, Shalom, > > > > Here is a simple translation. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Ilan Israel ( former British Habonim, ex-Kibbutz Gezer and > shaliach to > Moshava 1984-87.) > > > > היא הולכת בדרכים > > אלון אולארצ'יק > > לחן: אלון אולארצ'יק > מילים: אלון אולארצ'יק > [...]
17519 81 8_Steve H.11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:54 -0700396_iso-8859-1 I have never sent an article by someone else before, but I found this fascinating, and full of stuff I never knew. Thought others might also...Steven
Steve What is your trepidation about sending an article written by someone else? What is wrong with that? I am curious, because a number* of people have expressed something akin to disdain when others have done it. [...]
17601 47 28_to forward or not to forward11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Fri, 11 May 2007 12:23:19 -0400437_us-ascii ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:54 -0700 >From: Steve Klein >Subject: Steve H. >To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > ... > Steve > What is your trepidation about sending an article > written by someone else? What is wrong with that? > I am curious, because a number* of people have > expressed something akin to disdain when others have > done it. > > Steve > > * a small number. [...]
17649 166 30_Re: This one you have to watch13_richard smith21_rdsmith1957@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 11 May 2007 09:25:44 -0700613_iso-8859-1 If only simplicity were a virtue then Steve could be our pope.
Steve Klein wrote: These days I only have one question for the people having fun putting Bush down; Knowing he is inarticulate and probably dyslexic and other learning disabled, and also allowing he shows a severe deficit in the charisma department- still, . . . . .who besides George Bush stands between us and the bad guys? Would I prefer someone more intelligent? More compassionate? More protective of the planet? You bet I would. Is George all we have? Unfortunately, yes. But it's still yes. [...]
17816 237 25_Re: translation for Julie12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 11 May 2007 09:42:56 -0700661_iso-8859-1 Just FYI- Meir Fenigstein, who has organized the traveling Israel Film Festival for the past 22 years, was the original "Poogie"---- He has helped bring Israeli film into the "consciousness" of foreigners!--sue
--- Julie Esris wrote:
> Thanks a gOoGolPleX. I love this song. And I love > Kaveret!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These > same guys, btw, also wrote "Yoya." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ilan and Lorrie Israel > Date: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:23 am > Subject: RE: translation for Julie > To: jesris@optonline.net, HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > > > Julie, Shalom, > > > > > > > [...]
18054 651 25_Re: translation for Julie11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Fri, 11 May 2007 16:49:16 +0000414_iso-8859-1 Yeah, I think I heard something like that... I also met Efraim Shamir at the US reunion tour in 1999. The story is here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2064&l=52d40&id=513702894 It's otherwise only available to those who friended me on Facebook, but this is a public link. With the photos is a rather creepy yet darkly amusing (ie one of those "look back on it and laugh" kind of things)... [...]
18706 67 25_A Shabbat "P -i-e-(a)-ce"12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 11 May 2007 11:33:44 -0700585_iso-8859-1 On Friday afternoons all over LA-LA land you can hear people saying their weekend greetings: "We're off to the desert"- or "I'm going to the desert"-with all of the vigour and verve of "We're going to DIsneyland."- Many Los Angeleans have second homes in Palm Springs, or escape to hotels and motels in the Palm Springs area to "get away from the LA "Weltanschaung" of craziness, driving maniacs, and the air. My best friend has a condo there, and many weekends I have driven "to the desert" in anticipation of pure relaxation and a couple of days of warmth, dreaming, [...]
18774 130 11_Re: Steve H13_Steve Hancoff12_SHX2@AOL.COM29_Fri, 11 May 2007 17:34:08 EDT337_ISO-8859-1 Dear Steve,
I have no "trepidation" about sending articles. It's just that, by and large, I prefer "conversation" informed by reading, life-experience and reasoning. As Buddha said: "Don't believe it is so just because I (or any authority) said it is so. Rely instead on your own experience." (I am paraphrasing.) [...]
18905 279 21_Democrats for defense13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Sat, 12 May 2007 06:06:40 +0300419_us-ascii Published: May. 11, 2007 at 8:02 PM Thompson Files: Democrats for defense By LOREN B. THOMPSON
ARLINGTON, Va., May. 11 (UPI) -- If you thought the Democratic Party was still mired in the anti-war, anti-military funk that followed America's defeat in Vietnam, then you haven't been paying attention to this week's markup of the fiscal 2008 defense budget by the U.S. House Armed Services Committee. [...]
19185 229 11_Re: Steve H11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 12 May 2007 11:47:40 -0700551_iso-8859-1 Sorry. When you said you don't do it, it almost sounded apologetic for sending the article. I appreciated getting it from you. I think most people are too busy to cull, and when they are sent a well-written idea, no matter what side of an issue, they are grateful to be able to have yet another source. We no longer trust most of our newspapers or TV and radio "news" sources. Additionally, people will send an article about an idea they believe in that may be written far more eloquently than they themselves could have communicated. [...]
19415 171 20_Fw: food for thought11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 12 May 2007 12:29:40 -0700554_iso-8859-1 Enjoy!
Steve
Subject: food for thought
Subject: Subject:: Newspapers > > 1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the country. > > 2. The Washington Post is read by people who think they run the > country. > > 3. The New York Times is read by people who think they should run > the country and who are very good at crossword puzzles. > > 4. USA Today is read by people who think they maybe ought to run the > country but don't really understand The New York Times. They do, > however, [...]
19587 807 34_Fw: That Damn war in Iraq is lost.11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 12 May 2007 12:54:55 -0700622_iso-8859-1
Harry Reid, on his opinion:
The statistics below were sent to me by a reliable source, but all it says is that they are verifiable with the DOD>
Steve
But this man says: "The war is lost."
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Majority Leader Harry Reid
What do we call a government leader who agrees with the people killing our troops? [...]
20395 168 24_Support An SPME Petition16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 12 May 2007 15:48:57 -0700598_iso-8859-1 Petition to the Government of Iran to Free Dr. Haleh Esfandiari, Iranian-American Director of the Woodrow Wilson Center for International Scholars
Written by: Scholars for Peace in the Middle East May 12, 2007 To: The Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran We, the undersigned professorial colleagues and other citizens of good will, petition and demand that the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran immediately free Dr. Haleh Esfandiari, an Iranian-American citizen who serves as Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington D.C. [...]
20564 54 38_Re: Fw: That Damn war in Iraq is lost.17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM31_Sat, 12 May 2007 18:44:56 -0500523_ISO-8859-1 *"---- Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web site.. "* Steve, I'm glad you cite official Bush administration press releases to back your argument. At least we know where you are coming from.
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20619 583 34_Re: That Damn war in Iraq is lost.11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Sat, 12 May 2007 22:30:11 -0400381_iso-8859-1 Did you know that 7 out of 8 reconstruction projects "successfully completed" were either crumbling or otherwise non-functional when checked a year later? Wonder if you'll find that on the DOD website
Noam ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Klein To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: Fw: That Damn war in Iraq is lost. [...]
21203 348 34_After the Flood was Not Pedestrian12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Sun, 13 May 2007 08:26:23 +0200538_windows-1252 Haverim/ot, Two feel good-events occurred in Jerusalem last week. Ill write about the second one tomorrow. The first was a concert by Chava Alberstein. The large auditorium of the Jerusalem Theatre was filled to capacity. She sang her heart out and into hearts. Songs we loved and believed in were resuscitated and we believed again. Heres one of her early songs which she wrote and composed herself. (Most of her songs were written and composed by the best musicians and poets.) It reminded me of Not Pedestrian [...]
21552 430 22_Keep it under your hat11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Sun, 13 May 2007 20:31:27 -0400515_iso-8859-1 An interesting article on demographics in Jerusalem. Does this ring true for the chevre in Jerusalem?
Noam
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/weekinreview/13myre.html?
May 13, 2007 Identity Crisis Israeli Riddle: Love Jerusalem, Hate Living There By GREG MYRE JERUSALEM
ISRAEL is facing a challenge it never expected when it captured East Jerusalem and reunited the city in the 1967 war: each year, Jerusalem's population is becoming more Arab and less Jewish. [...]
21983 57 38_Re: After the Flood was Not Pedestrian11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM29_Sun, 13 May 2007 21:10:47 EDT602_US-ASCII Thank you for sharing this beautiful piece of poetry with all of us. Sylvia
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22041 67 38_Re: After the Flood was Not Pedestrian12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 14 May 2007 05:58:07 +0200763_us-ascii Thanks for the thanks, Sylvia
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22109 34 81_The Israeli-Hezbollah War of 2006: The Media as a Weapon in Asymmetrical Conflict13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Mon, 14 May 2007 11:07:29 +0300599_us-ascii Something to ponder in your spare time:
The Israeli-Hezbollah War of 2006: The Media as a Weapon in Asymmetrical Conflict
Abstract Based on content analysis of global media and interviews with many diplomats and journalists, this paper describes the trajectory of the media from objective observer to fiery advocate, becoming in fact a weapon of modern warfare. The paper also shows how an open society, Israel, is victimized by its own openness and how a closed sect, Hezbollah, can retain almost total control of the daily message of journalism and propaganda. [...]
22144 653 16_Whirling dervish12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:14 +0200613_windows-1252
Haverim/ot The next day after the feel-good event at the Jerusalem Theatre last week when Chava Alberstein reminded the audience of what we used to sound like and dont often hear these days, I went to a demonstration of Peace Now. It was run as an Alternative Jerusalem Day. The invitation read Join us in a collaborative Israeli-Palestinian call to establish Jerusalem as the site of two capitals for two states. In response to the official celebration of the 40th anniversary of the IDFs victory in the Six Day War which resulted in the Reunification of the City, Shalom Achshav [...]
22798 155 45_[QUAR] Re: Fw: That Damn war in Iraq is lost.13_richard smith21_rdsmith1957@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 14 May 2007 10:08:06 -0700399_iso-8859-1 Anyone who would call Iraq a victory, or even on the road to victory, is simply blind.
Steve Klein wrote:
Harry Reid, on his opinion:
The statistics below were sent to me by a reliable source, but all it says is that they are verifiable with the DOD>
Steve
But this man says: "The war is lost." [...]
22954 667 49_Re: [QUAR] Re: Fw: That Damn war in Iraq is lost.11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Mon, 14 May 2007 13:02:50 -0700468_iso-8859-1 Richard
I am not within that bunch that thinks there could ever be a victory in Iraq. I think we will be lucky if we can even get to the point of "chaotic managability" that Israel has with its warring Muslims. I just don't see desertion as a solution.
Steve
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23622 240 20_Re: Whirling dervish12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 14 May 2007 13:16:06 -0700513_iso-8859-1 I got a call last night from my sister in New York. Avi ( my son) is there performing for "Stand WIth Us" which helps pay for his gig in Israel, and when he goes to NY, she always takes him out to a play and a meal. Usually, they get into it when it comes to politics, since Avi is a staunch Bush supporter, and very "right wing," and she is almost a la- la like spitirutalist who calls God "The Cosmos" and believes we should all love each other. Last night was different. Thier quest for a play [...]
23863 794 54_Fw: Israel, a nation among nations? (From Roz Barland)13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Mon, 14 May 2007 18:33:02 -0400669_iso-8859-1
----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Barland To: habonet@shamash.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:20 AM Subject: Israel, a nation among nations?
Israel. The land that is tortured, frantic, drugged by an overdose of history, excessive emotions that cannot be contained by any human capacity, extreme events and tragedies, enormous anxiety and paralyzing sobriety, too much memory, failed hopes and the circumstances of a fate unique among all nations: an existence that sometimes appears to be a story of mythical proportions, a story that is "larger than life" to the point that something seems to have gone wrong with the [...]
24658 233 58_Re: Fw: Israel, a nation among nations? (From Roz Barland)12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 14 May 2007 15:51:42 -0700666_iso-8859-1 wow....i got goosebumps and....well...no words...sue
--- Yuval Warshai wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rosalind Barland > To: habonet@shamash.org > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:20 AM > Subject: Israel, a nation among nations? > > > Israel. The land that is tortured, frantic, drugged > by an overdose of history, excessive emotions that > cannot be contained by any human capacity, extreme > events and tragedies, enormous anxiety and > paralyzing sobriety, too much memory, failed hopes > and the circumstances of a fate unique among all > nations: an existence that sometimes appears to [...]
24892 75 5_Query13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Tue, 15 May 2007 07:47:57 +0300506_us-ascii Is there anyone out there on the Habonet who is a subscriber to the online Wall Street Journal? If so, please get in touch with me off-group at:
jonbaum@ksasa.co.il
Thanks,
Jon
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24968 40 25_Yahrzeit of Pearl Skolnik14_Martin Goodman26_martinjgoodman@HOTMAIL.COM31_Tue, 15 May 2007 06:09:15 +0000452_- Chevreh Shalom:
The Yahrzeit of Pearl Skolnik was celebrated yesterday (14 May 2007) at the Givat Shaul cemetery near the main entrance to Jerusalem. Besides family members, several bogrey tnuat HaBonim were in attendence.
Following a brief prayer service at Pearl's gravesite, the attendees met at Yad Sarah and a number of Pearl's relatives and friends spoke about Pearl. Much was said about her kindness, generosity, and spunk. [...]
25009 91 29_Re: Yahrzeit of Pearl Skolnik12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 15 May 2007 07:57:52 -0700588_iso-8859-1 Thanks for that report........I haven't "deleted" Pearl's name from my address book-I can't. I also think of her often and of the last time I saw her in Jerusalem where we laughed about our weight, talked about children, etc.....She was a staunch supporter of Avi's comedy tour, and went to every show ,even though sometimes some of the jokes may have been a little off-key for her. (IOnce, she sat behind me at the Jerusalem Theater, and laughed her head off, though!)....I know her spirit is around. How poignant that her aliyah date is hghlighted in such a unique way. [...]
25101 263 20_Re: Whirling dervish11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Tue, 15 May 2007 10:43:04 -0700594_iso-8859-1 Sue
Well said and beautifully written.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liberman" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Whirling dervish
>I got a call last night from my sister in New York. > Avi ( my son) is there performing for "Stand WIth Us" > which helps pay for his gig in Israel, and when he > goes to NY, she always takes him out to a play and a > meal. Usually, they get into it when it comes to > politics, since Avi is a staunch Bush supporter, and > [...]
25365 417 55_Fw: Interesting Article: America talks, Syria imprisons11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Tue, 15 May 2007 11:06:34 -0700453_- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 5/13/2007 12:17 PM
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25783 109 29_Re: Yahrzeit of Pearl Skolnik0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 14:34:57 -0400640_UTF-8 Yes, Sue and marty, Pearl was a unique person. I visted her and her husband in Jerusalem and she was a force to be reckoned with. She will be missed.
Jack Nusan (Jackie) Porter
-----Original Message----- >From: Sue Liberman >Sent: May 15, 2007 10:57 AM >To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG >Subject: Re: Yahrzeit of Pearl Skolnik > >Thanks for that report........I haven't "deleted" >Pearl's name from my address book-I can't. I also >think of her often and of the last time I saw her in >Jerusalem where we laughed about our weight, talked >about children, etc.....She was a staunch supporter of >Avi's [...]
25893 30 37_Important: for habonim camp people!!!12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 15 May 2007 11:59:35 -0700357_iso-8859-1 We are having Jewish camping as the cover story for our paper- I'd like to use a Habonim camp picture for the cover- it needs to be hi-res, and a vertical orientation. Anyone with such things should email them to me at my work email:sliberman@blazermediagroup.com You will get credit, and it would be "cool"---Old pics are also welcome..Sue [...]
25924 179 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 19:11:28 +0000409_us-ascii I posted these photos on Facebook; here is a public link (ie for people not on Facebook-- can only see the pics if I send them this link)... basically it's a preview for my 1995-1998 archive. Feel free to right click and save whichever you want. I also included out of camp seminars and MBI. Some of these albums I have nicknamed "Immortalizing Your Awkward Phase" ("Simpsons" reference, kids). [...]
26104 102 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 19:12:14 +0000344_us-ascii BTW I just saw the high res thing-- if you see any you like, just tell me which ones you've picked out and I'll scan them at a higher resolution for you.! :)
JE
----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liberman Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:03 pm Subject: Important: for habonim camp people!!! To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
26207 52 43_Jerry Falwell, rest in peace (yeah, right!)11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 19:22:01 +0000518_us-ascii As we know, Jerry Falwell is dead. I feel guilty for saying this, but I laughed when I found out. I probably wouldn't have if he were still young. But seriously, this guy was awful. Reactions, anybody, to today's news?
BTW my one regret is that this satirical article I wrote called "The Menstruation Ban Trilogy", which predicts him as President in the mid 20-teens, is now future-historically inaccurate: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/45860/a_satire_of_the_abortion_ban_in_south.html [...]
26260 36 47_Re: Jerry Falwell, rest in peace (yeah, right!)11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 15:48:21 -0400609_us-ascii Julie,
I think Falwell would say that God killed him to punish America for our wickeness. Maybe if we're really bad she'll take Pat Robertson too...
Noam
---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:22:01 +0000 >From: Julie Esris >Subject: Jerry Falwell, rest in peace (yeah, right!) >To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > > As we know, Jerry Falwell is dead. I feel guilty for > saying this, but I laughed when I found out. I > probably wouldn't have if he were still young. But > seriously, this guy was awful. Reactions, anybody, > to today's news? > [...]
26297 109 47_Re: Jerry Falwell, rest in peace (yeah, right!)11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 19:54:35 +0000586_us-ascii No that's what Fred Phelps would say. Even Jerry Falwell was too liberal for Phelps.
----- Original Message ----- From: Noam Stopak Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:51 pm Subject: Re: Jerry Falwell, rest in peace (yeah, right!) To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> Julie, > > I think Falwell would say that God killed him to punish America > for our wickeness. Maybe if we're really bad she'll take Pat > Robertson too... > > Noam > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:22:01 +0000 > >From: Julie Esris > >Subject: Jerry Falwell, rest in peace (yeah, [...]
26407 146 23_call for submissions...11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Tue, 15 May 2007 23:44:38 -0400418_us-ascii As I've stated, I'm going to launch a Gaill 1995-1998 archive, at www.galil95-98.net. Don't know when it's going to be; I have other things on my plate that must take priority... HOWEVER, anybody who wishes to submit photos from Galil from 1995-1998, or MBI 1997, please do! Scan them at 72 dpi at 2x normal size and when I get around to making the archive, I'll post them. Send to: jesris@optonline.net [...]
26554 61 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM29_Wed, 16 May 2007 09:05:21 EDT594_US-ASCII I think we and the media are spending too much on Jerry Falwell. We all feel the same way. It is too bad that he had so much influence on Americans. ......but that is how it is. Sylvia
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26616 99 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 16 May 2007 09:08:25 -0700537_iso-8859-1 Thanks Julie- I am not sure we can use any of them- they need to have a vertical orientation- but I took a couple off the website and will show them to our graphics person--Sue
--- Julie Esris wrote:
> BTW I just saw the high res thing-- if you see any > you like, just tell me which ones you've picked out > and I'll scan them at a higher resolution for you.! > :) > > JE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Liberman > Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:03 pm > Subject: [...]
26716 220 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Wed, 16 May 2007 16:13:15 +0000545_us-ascii All right, when I get home tonight I'll see if I can find some with a vertical orientation.
----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liberman Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:11 pm Subject: Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!! To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> Thanks Julie- I am not sure we can use any of them- > they need to have a vertical orientation- but I took a > couple off the website and will show them to our > graphics person--Sue > > > --- Julie Esris wrote: > > > BTW I just saw the high res thing-- if you [...]
26937 173 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:46 -0700536_iso-8859-1 thanks!!! --- Julie Esris wrote:
> All right, when I get home tonight I'll see if I can > find some with a vertical orientation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Liberman > Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:11 pm > Subject: Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!! > To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > > > Thanks Julie- I am not sure we can use any of > them- > > they need to have a vertical orientation- but I > took a > > couple off the website and will show them to our > > graphics [...]
27111 364 41_Re: Important: for habonim camp people!!!11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Wed, 16 May 2007 19:52:32 +0000296_us-ascii NP... btw if you think about it there is an easy way to fix this... depending on the composition of the photo, it's possible to make it vertically oriented... or I could take a few and make a collage. Let me know which photos you picked out and whether you want me to do it or not. [...]
27476 57 28_Republican candidates debate16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Wed, 16 May 2007 23:02:40 -0400600_us-ascii Just in case you missed the Republican primary debates, or plan on missing them in the future....
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/youtube/gopdebate.htm
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27534 864 21_two dismal viewpoints16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Thu, 17 May 2007 09:35:31 -0400819_ISO-8859-1 11:35 , 05.16.07
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Solution for PA anarchy
Large scale Gaza operation must be preceded by thorough preparation process Ron Ben Yishai
Israel's key problem at this point in time is the violent anarchy reigning in the Palestinian arena. Sderot and western Negev communities are not sustaining Qassam rocket fire because the Palestinians hope to secure diplomatic-national objectives through their attacks, but rather, because this serves local political and extortion efforts by several dozens of clans and armed groups fighting each other over economic interests and political prestige. [...]
28399 818 45_Stranger Than Fiction - IPF Friday Volume 32316_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Fri, 18 May 2007 11:55:34 -0400568_us-ascii
Washington, DC, May 18 , 2007 | Issue # 323 Printer Friendly Version
Stranger Than Fiction
Forty years after the Six-Day War, it is clear that the occupation that was the unintended result of that war has significantly altered perceptions about the State of Israel. In fact, it is safe to say that for most people today, it is close to impossible to think of Israel without thinking about the occupation of the West Bank and the terrible problems created by it. [...]
29218 236 49_Re: Stranger Than Fiction - IPF Friday Volume 32312_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 18 May 2007 12:30:17 -0700599_iso-8859-1 ELIHU- THANKS FOR TIS- I REALLY LIKED IT--SHABBAT SHALOM -SUE
--- "Elihu D. Davison" wrote:
> > > > Washington, DC, May 18 , 2007 | Issue # 323 Printer > Friendly Version > > > > Stranger Than Fiction > > Forty years after the Six-Day War, it is clear that > the occupation that > was the unintended result of that war has > significantly altered > perceptions about the State of Israel. In fact, it > is safe to say that > for most people today, it is close to impossible to > think of [...]
29455 19 42_The reason for Israel's summertime wars...16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Fri, 18 May 2007 16:08:08 -0400487_us-ascii http://sandbox.blog-city.com/israel_lebanon_war_juan_cole.htm
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29475 20 27_Shoshana Damari - Kalaniyot16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Sat, 19 May 2007 08:03:02 -0400468_us-ascii http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaL7mllWVG4
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29496 44 17_Watch the Cohanim12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Sat, 19 May 2007 21:41:43 +0200611_utf-8 Haverot/im דברים שרואים מכאן Yehudit Ravitz sang D’varim Sh’roaim M’kan Lo Roaim M’sham it was set to music by Matti Kaspi and is a sleeper. It’s time to wake up and hear the music if not the clarion call. We have been celebrating Jerusalem Day forty years now. The holiday’s sobriquet is Reunited Jerusalem Day and the biblical verse most quoted is from Psalm 122:3 “Jerusalem, that is built as a city that is joined together” – which is a consummation more devoutly wished than a reality. For Palestinians, Jerusalem is El Kuds and the Temple Mount is (Hebrew, Har [...]
29541 56 21_Re: Watch the Cohanim11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM29_Sun, 20 May 2007 12:26:23 EDT571_US-ASCII As always thanks for the great piece. Sylvia
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29598 76 21_Re: Watch the Cohanim12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Sun, 20 May 2007 20:22:02 +0200466_us-ascii Sylvia, Thank you. However, in the inerests of full disclosure I want to share a message with the list. Jeff Abel wrote me: Amnon, some of your history is a little confused:
It was Hadrian who evicted the Jews and prohibited their even entering Jerusalem in 135, a situation that remained in force as the Empire became Christian and only ended with Omar's conquest in 638 when Jews did resettle Jerusalem. There was no "re-conquest" by an Omar. [...]
29675 526 59_Ateret HaCohenim aren't the only dangerous religious bigots16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Sun, 20 May 2007 18:02:23 -0400923_us-ascii The New York Times
------------------------------------------------------------------------ May 20, 2007 Op-Ed Columnist
The Reverend Falwell's Heavenly Timing
By FRANK RICH
HARD as it is to believe now, Jerry Falwell came in second only to Ronald Reagan in a 1983 Good Housekeeping poll anointing "the most admired man in America." By September 2001, even the Bush administration was looking for a way to ditch the preacher who had joined Pat Robertson on TV to pin the 9/11 attacks on feminists, abortionists, gays and, implicitly, Teletubbies. As David Kuo, a former Bush official for faith-based initiatives, tells the story in his [...]
30202 398 63_Re: Ateret HaCohenim aren't the only dangerous religious bigots12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 21 May 2007 07:29:38 +0200388_us-ascii Elihu When I tried accessing your Ateret HaCohenim reference the article below is what came up. What should have come up. C.C. Hadary* *computer challenged
----- Original Message ----- From: "Elihu D. Davison" Date: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:04 am Subject: Ateret HaCohenim aren't the only dangerous religious bigots To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
30601 403 60_NYT - Campaign for Kashruth Includes Call for Social Justice16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Mon, 21 May 2007 13:35:35 -0400870_us-ascii
The New York Times
------------------------------------------------------------------------ May 19, 2007 On Religion
Rabbi's Campaign for Kosher Standards Expands to Include Call for Social Justice
By SAMUEL G. FREEDMAN
MENDOTA HEIGHTS, Minn.
A dozen years ago, Rabbi Morris Allen stood before his congregation in this Twin Cities suburb to announce a program called Chew by Choice. As Conservative Jews, the members of his synagogue were bound by religious law to eat only kosher food, but as typical Americans, relatively few did so. So the rabbi asked them just to stop eating flagrantly impermissible foods like pork and shellfish as the first [...]
31005 274 69_Rolling Stones not under the thumb of the [anti-Israel] boycott lobby16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Tue, 22 May 2007 05:35:29 -0400614_us-ascii
source http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=1028
Rolling Stones not under the thumb of the [anti-Israel] boycott lobby Added to website by David Hirsh on May 21, 2007 05:29:41 PM.
Rolling Stones not under the thumb of the boycott lobbyThe boycott campaign wants to bully the Rolling Stones to cancel their planned concert in Israel in September. They are doing this by pretending that Israel is an "apartheid" state like the old South Africa and they ask: [...]
31280 24 36_Ateret Cohanim and religious bigotry16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Tue, 22 May 2007 05:38:32 -0400547_ISO-8859-1 Amnon, The pieces you forwarded about the ateret cohanim inspired me to forward the Frank Rich piece on Jerry Falwell, another religious bigot. You were not computer challenged. Was the analogy too oblique or inappropriate? Sorry. ELIHU
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31305 75 40_Re: Ateret Cohanim and religious bigotry12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Tue, 22 May 2007 12:01:47 +0200363_us-ascii Elihu, Neither too oblique nor inappropriate. Besides my mother told me never to apolagize nor say that I was sorry. "I made you. You are without blemish. If you apolagize people will think that I hadn't done a perfect job." Besides what will happen to the tenor of Habonet if people begin a apolagizing at the drop of a forward? Hag Sameyach Amnon [...]
31381 117 40_Re: Ateret Cohanim and religious bigotry11_Sylvia Lask14_smlbov@AOL.COM31_Tue, 22 May 2007 09:36:23 -0400318_utf-8 I once spent Shavouos in Israel at Kibbutz Tzorah visiting an old friend, Judy Wesley Jampolsky and had the most wonderful time wathing the parade of children and the animals. the entertainment was beautiful with the dancing and everything else. I wish each a you a wonderful day and hag samaich. Sylvia [...]
31499 108 40_Re: Ateret Cohanim and religious bigotry16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 22 May 2007 09:17:44 -0700585_iso-8859-1 And now read this one from Haaretz today. Ruth would still be a Moabite By Avirama Golan
One of the nicest parts of the Shavuot holiday is the reading of the Book of Ruth. Naomi, the bereaved widow who returns to her homeland with nothing, is traditionally viewed as the first person to convert someone to Judaism, the one who shaped the conversion process. "Your people will be my people and your God, my God," her daughter-in-law Ruth told her, in that order. In other words, joining the nation, the society and the community is the first stage of conversion, [...]
31608 113 40_Re: Ateret Cohanim and religious bigotry16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 22 May 2007 09:19:14 -0700593_iso-8859-1 And to add to the conversation... From Today's Haaretz
Ruth would still be a Moabite By Avirama Golan
One of the nicest parts of the Shavuot holiday is the reading of the Book of Ruth. Naomi, the bereaved widow who returns to her homeland with nothing, is traditionally viewed as the first person to convert someone to Judaism, the one who shaped the conversion process. "Your people will be my people and your God, my God," her daughter-in-law Ruth told her, in that order. In other words, joining the nation, the society and the community is the first stage of [...]
31722 49 49_Cheapest way to stay in touch with Israeli chevre15_Steven Weinberg19_chaversteve@MAC.COM31_Wed, 23 May 2007 14:12:24 -0400590_US-ASCII http://www.gizmoproject.com/index.php
Pay $3/mo for your own personal local Israeli number - that rings on your American phone!
Costs you $.033 per minute for you to call Israeli land lines and $. 129 per minute to call Israeli cell phone numbers.
Chaver Steve
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31772 94 60_[QUAR] Re: Cheapest way to stay in touch with Israeli chevre11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Wed, 23 May 2007 18:20:18 +0000426_us-ascii And there's the company I work for, Xchange Telecom... they offer a program called cell-thru where you dial an access number and then the international number... I called Germany for 3.9 cents a minute. I think Israel is the same...
----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Weinberg Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:18 pm Subject: Cheapest way to stay in touch with Israeli chevre To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
31867 58 60_[QUAR] Re: Cheapest way to stay in touch with Israeli chevre12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 23 May 2007 11:28:38 -0700694_iso-8859-1 THANKS!!!!--I was looking into SKYPE--but this seems better---or can one do both??--sue
--- Steven Weinberg wrote:
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31926 145 64_Re: [QUAR] Re: Cheapest way to stay in touch with Israeli chevre11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Wed, 23 May 2007 18:41:42 +0000359_us-ascii Apparently Skype is the cheapest; I think you can call anywhere in the world for next to nothing, and for free if the person you are calling also uses Skype.
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32072 83 24_Poll of American Muslims11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Thu, 24 May 2007 08:06:15 -0700482_iso-8859-1 I watched both CNN and Fox yesterday. Fox had a segment on the results of a recent poll of American Muslims.
- Of American Muslims younger than 30 years old, one in four (26%) believe that "suicide bombings [against civilian populations] are sometimes acceptable in the defense of Islam".
- A full 60% believe the 9/11 attackers were not Muslim Arabs. [I'm sure there are non-Muslim Americans that believe the same; just not in as great a percentage.] [...]
32156 90 28_Re: Poll of American Muslims13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Thu, 24 May 2007 18:35:09 +0300514_us-ascii Midwest Lutherans Largely Reject Violence
Chicago - By an almost two-to-one margin, Midwest Lutherans voiced solid opposition to decapitation, suicide bombing, and chemical warfare in a new comprehensive survey of their social attitudes.
The Pew Research survey, conducted May 13-19, queried nearly 2,500 randomly selected Lutherans at flea markets and convenience stores across the Midwest. Interviews were conducted in High Plains Twang, Great Lakes Nasal and Flat Ohio Valley Bland. [...]
32247 52 22_Israel's concrete dome11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Thu, 24 May 2007 12:33:03 -0400708_us-ascii http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ArticleContent.jhtml?itemNo=862783
Israel's concrete dome 24.5.07 | 07:18 By Meirav Arlosoroff NIS 1 billion. That is the estimated cost of protecting the towns and rural communities within seven kilometers of Israel's border with the Gaza Strip, the Gaza envelope communities, from the Qassam rockets.
The main town in this region is, of course, Sderot. The protective measures would include building bomb shelters or reinforced rooms in homes that lack them, and protection for various public buildings, even if those buildings already have bomb shelters but residents don't have enough advance warning before a rocket lands to reach shelter. [...]
32300 55 28_Re: Poll of American Muslims0_13_JLCAA@AOL.COM29_Thu, 24 May 2007 12:44:10 EDT547_US-ASCII Thanks Jon - a hoot!
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32356 37 32_Re: American Jewish demographics0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Thu, 24 May 2007 15:37:33 -0400556_UTF-8 I'm writing an entry for a sociology encyclopedia on "Jewish-Americans", the new way to call us, and I need info on the number of US Jews and how Jews have voted from Reagen to Bush II as Democrats and republicans. Surprisingly it has been hard to find such info here at Hebrew College in Boston's library. Plus any of your comments on what to include and how to "spin" the entry on the status of Yidn (Jews) including the role of LZ and other progressive Jews in America would be appreciated plus any suggestions for a bibliography at the end. [...]
32394 140 28_Re: Poll of American Muslims11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Thu, 24 May 2007 18:54:53 -0400541_ISO-8859-1 This is such a misstatement, I hardly know where to begin. A huge part of the one in four said suicide bombings were "rarely" acceptable. 75% said "never acceptable." How many members of this listserve would say "never" if "never" meant that it would have been unethical to use suicide bombing to kill Hitler, for instance. I don't think suicide bombing is ethical in almost any other instance, but had Hitler been killed with a suicide bomb I would be happy to celebrate the bomber as a martyr. Anyone else with me on that? [...]
32535 207 18_Changing Paradigms12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Fri, 25 May 2007 14:36:56 +0200618_windows-1252 On the holidays of previous years it was a remarkable phenomenon: town people would flock to kibbutzim , particularly on Succot, Pesach and Shavuot. It seemed as if there wasn't anyone without a relative on some kibbutz. It was the secular equivalent of a pilgrimage. There was a consensus that since the old-time-religion as represented by the bet hamidrash was pass, no longer spoke to people. In whatever form Judaism would emerge here it would be influenced strongly by words form the last stanza of the socialist international ("No savior from on high delivers, No trust have we in prince [...]
32743 46 10_TRANSLATOR12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Fri, 25 May 2007 19:16:05 +0200497_us-ascii Haverim/ot I need a translator from Yiddish to Hebrew. Any leads? Amnon
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32790 205 31_Fw: Surrender Now, Terror Later11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 04:40:32 -0700633_windows-1255
Written by a Democrat of some standing. I agree with Mr. Koch; the situation is sad and predictable. I have taken the liberty of adding a note at the end.
Steve
Democrats Force Surrender Now, Terror Later By Ed Koch - Dem [former Mayor of New York City] 5/17/07
Sadly, the war in Iraq appears to be lost. The Democrats, like terriers shaking a rat (Iraq) using a plan of funding war for three months -- salami tactics -- causing the Army command to recognize that the Congress, not the President, is effectively in charge, have achieved their goal: implementing [...]
32996 690 45_Fw: Just continue and deliver to your friends11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 05:40:49 -0700520_iso-8859-1
I figured that even if they have already found family, it is still worthwhile.
Steve
Subject: FW: Just continue and deliver to your friends
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33687 224 35_Re: Fw: Surrender Now, Terror Later13_Judith Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 10:29:09 -0400569_windows-1255 Ed Koch was a great mayor but being mayor of NYC doesn't qualify as foreign policy experience. Not for him and not for Guiliani either. Judy
Steve Klein wrote:
> > > > Written by a Democrat of some standing. I agree with Mr. Koch; the > situation is sad and predictable. I have taken the liberty of adding > a note at the end. > > Steve > > > > Democrats Force Surrender Now, Terror Later > > *By* *Ed Koch* > - Dem > [former Mayor of New York City] 5/17/07 > > Sadly, the war [...]
33912 102 35_Re: Fw: Surrender Now, Terror Later17_Shawn Eli Barland18_sbarland@WI.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 10:14:41 -0500558_windows-1255 Steve, An excellent example of the delusional garbage that Iraq war supporters swallow whole on a regular basis. The war against Al Qaeda was marginalized when George pulled the vast majority of our military forces out of Afghanistan and sent them to Iraq. Saddam Hussein is dead. There were no WMD in Iraq. Iraq is now in a state of anarchy created by our invasion and resulting in the creation of another failed state for Al Qaeda to run free in. As I have said to you before, the Iraq war has empowered both Al Qaeda and Iran. W himself [...]
34015 270 63_Tom Segev to speak about 1967 on June 5 at 7:30 in Bethesda, MD13_Judith Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 11:16:40 -0400553_us-ascii Dear Hevre, As you know, the 40th anniversary of the 6 Day War is fast approaching. Ameinu DC will be marking this event by hosting renowned Israeli Historian Tom Segev to talk about his new book _1967._ I hope everyone in the DC and Baltimore area can join us that evening. If you live elsewhere but have friends or relatives who might be interested, please let them know. THis was arranged on very short notice so we can't mail notices to the many Habonim almuni and older LZA membersin the DC area who aren't on Habonet and for whom we [...]
34286 335 35_Re: Fw: Surrender Now, Terror Later11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 10:13:49 -0700411_windows-1255 Judy
In all fairness, I don't think Koch attempted to ride on any "foreign policy experience". Neither has Guiliani, as far as I know. I provided the letter for its lucidity, not for ad- or pro-hominum.
Steve
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34622 955 20_Fw: Fw: Islamberg NY11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 10:20:41 -0700640_iso-8859-1
Does anyone know if this is for real?
Steve
Springtime in Islamberg Radical Muslim paramilitary compound flourishes in upper New York state By Paul L. Williams Ph.D., (author of THE DAY OF ISLAM) With the able assistance of Douglas Hagmann, Bill Krayer and Michael Travis Friday, May 11, 2007
Dr. Paul Williams at the entrance of Islamberg Situated within a dense forest at the foothills of the Catskill Mountains on the outskirts of Hancock, New York, Islamberg is not an ideal place for a summer vacation unless, of course, you are an exponent of the Jihad or a fan of [...]
35578 230 35_Re: Fw: Surrender Now, Terror Later11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 10:42:24 -0700399_windows-1255
Thank you for your response.
Here's the really bad news from today, if you like waking up to bad news. Hot off the liberal presses at LA Times, the incendiary headline "Arabs make plans for a future with nuclear power". Boy, I am soooo glad I didn't have to be the one bringing you this one. Blame the LA Times and whoever carries this story over the next few days. [...]
35809 62 14_Re: TRANSLATOR0_25_ddwgreen@NETVISION.NET.IL31_Sat, 26 May 2007 20:45:36 +0300589_iso-8859-1 Hi Amnon,
Several years ago I used Devorah Kosman, 02-625-1019. She translated two family letters for me from Yiddish to Hebrew (which I then translated into English). She teaches Yiddish at Pelech High School (or did then..).
I hope all is well, Shavua tov, Trudy
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35872 171 23_Israel's wasted victory16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 16:24:33 -0700661_iso-8859-1
ISRAEL'S WASTED VICTORY May 24th 2007
Six days of war followed by 40 years of misery. How can it ever end?
ON THE seventh day Jews everywhere celebrated Israel's deliverance from danger. But 40 years after that tumultuous June of 1967, the six-day war has come to look like one of history's pyrrhic victories. That is not to say that the war was unnecessary. Israel struck after Egypt's President Nasser sent his army into the Sinai peninsula, evicted United Nations peacekeeping forces and blockaded Israeli shipping through the Gulf of Aqaba. Israel's victory opened the waterway and smashed its enemies' [...]
36044 222 30_Fwd: Re: Fw: Yiddish song site16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 20:02:03 -0700576_iso-8859-1 You may enjoy these songs. Click on the link on the bottom right hand side of this long forward.
Note: forwarded message attached.
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36267 92 8_Details?11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 26 May 2007 22:09:19 -0700553_iso-8859-1 "Twas written:
"the Palestinians must give up the dream of return and make Israel feel secure as a Jewish state. All the rest is detail."
I missed the part about how this was going to happen.
Steve
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36360 120 12_Re: Details?13_Judith Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Sun, 27 May 2007 07:53:52 -0400622_us-ascii What you quoted are the goals. How it will happen IS the detail.
Judy
Steve Klein wrote:
> "Twas written: > > "the Palestinians must give up the dream > of return and make Israel feel secure as a Jewish state. All the rest > is detail." > > I missed the part about how this was going to happen. > > Steve > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network > , a service of Hebrew College > , which offers online courses and an online > MA [...]
36481 98 14_Re: TRANSLATOR13_Dan Bernstein17_dsb1@NYCAP.RR.COM31_Mon, 28 May 2007 17:48:53 -0400782_us-ascii Amnon, you could ask my wife. She does some English - Hebrew translations and is well versed in Yiddish. contact her by email at: exshomeret@gmail.com Dan amnon hadary wrote:
> Haverim/ot > > I need a translator from Yiddish to Hebrew. Any leads? > > Amnon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network > , a service of Hebrew College > , which offers online courses and an online > MA in Jewish Studies . > > To unsubscribe email HABONET-unsubscribe-request@SHAMASH.ORG > > For other options go to: http://listserv.SHAMASH.ORG/ > [...]
36580 135 42_the U.S. and the Morass in the Middle East16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 29 May 2007 05:46:11 -0700766_iso-8859-1 CAN THE UNITED STATES DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE MORASS IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
by
Dr. Robert O. Freedman
With Gaza intermittently erupting into internecine violence between Hamas and Fatah; with the US "surge" in Iraq not showing any immediate results; with the pro-American Siniora government in Lebanon caught between Hizbollah and the Syrian-backed Islamic movement Fatah Al-Islam; with Saudi Arabia turning away from its once close relationship with the United States and its King, Abdullah, condemning the US presence in Iraq as an "illegitimate foreign occupation"; with the Arab-Israeli peace process all but dead as Israel battles Hamas and Islamic [...]
36716 1286 97_[Fwd: Renowned Israeli Historian Tom Segev to Speak on Explosive New Book on Six Day War: "1967"]13_Judith Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Tue, 29 May 2007 10:20:18 -0400497_us-ascii DC and Baltimore area Chevre-- Please try to make it to this event and tell interested friends. We got the opportunity to host Tom Segev at very short notice . Judy Gelman
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Renowned Israeli Historian Tom Segev to Speak on Explosive New Book on Six Day War: "1967" Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:49:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Ameinu | Liberal Values, Progressive Israel Reply-To: executive@ameinu.net To: gelman@erols.com [...]
38003 57 47_creationist museum opened in Kentucky yesterday11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Tue, 29 May 2007 14:31:22 +0000602_us-ascii A creationist museum opened in Kentucky yesterday. That's right; a museum that teaches that dinosaurs and humans lived together, that illness and death is the result of sin, and so forth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31mlbB8KFmY
The more of this kind of thing I see, the harder I find it to respect these beliefs. To be honest, I don't respect these beliefs. I reluctantly accept them. Respect means disagreeing but understanding there is a different perspective. This isn't a different perspective. It's delusional. It's no different than a kid believing in Santa Claus. [...]
38061 271 25_Fw: ??? ?????? Jewish Mom11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Wed, 30 May 2007 07:27:39 -0700361_iso-8859-1
Cute
Jewish Mom
A young Jewish Mom walks her son to the school bus corner on his first day of kindergarten. "Behave, my bubaleh" she says. "Take good care of yourself and think about your Mother, tataleh!" "And come right back home on the bus, schein kindaleh."
"Mommy loves you a lot, my ketsaleh!" [...]
38333 5896 84_Fw: Hear the Legal Claim of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Sunday 10 June)11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Wed, 30 May 2007 07:44:17 -0700552_iso-8859-1 Hear the Legal Claim of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Sunday 10 June) See you there?
Steve
Subject: Hear the Legal Claim of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Sunday 10 June)
Friends, I am sure you know you have a stake in Israel!
Please come join, learn and finally know the truth of what is rightfully and directly belongs to the State of Israel and indirectly to ALL Jews, wherever they live! Please PASS this invitation ON to as MANY as possible! [...]
44230 42 13_Barak is back13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Thu, 31 May 2007 10:42:54 -0700558_iso-8859-1 Does anybody here follow with any degree of interest the arcane twists and turns of the behind-closed-doors (or 'meachorei hakla'im) of Israeli politics?
Well, Barak is back. But then again, what else could he do? Going back to being a general in the army is not possible, and he feels he is too young to retire or to go write his memoirs. In any case, on the latest option, he would have only abject failures to tell about. So what is a retired general to do in Israel? The only option is really going back to politics. Oy va'avoy. I [...]