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2 37 13_More sad news12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:45:21 -0800575_iso-8859-1 For some years, we of the 11th workshop have been trying to find Judy Glasner, from Baltimore. Judy was my best friend from 5th grade all the way through Workshop and up until college when we all separated...Judy brought me to Habonim. Last night ,thanks to efforts of Stan Weintraub, we reconnected with her sister, Toni, who is a psychologist in San Diego. Judy passed away in November, 1984, from breast cancer while working at NBC as a computer programmer. She was a good freind, and had a lovely voice. I have often thought of her, and miss her....and I [...]
40 92 9_Fw: Matzo11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:10:11 -0800516_iso-8859-1
An oldie but a goodie.
Steve
Subject: Matzo
A Jewish man took his Passover lunch to eat outside in the park. He sat down on a bench and began eating a piece of Matzo. A little while later a blind man came by and sat down next to him. Feeling neighborly, the Jewish man passed a sheet of matzoh to the blind man. The blind man ran his fingers over the matzo for a few minutes, looked puzzled, and finally exclaimed, "Who writes this s--t?" [...]
133 43 17_Re: More sad news11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:12:16 -0800586_iso-8859-1 My sincere condolances to Judy's family also. Judy was one of those souls that never had a bad word for anyone.
Steve
Subject: More sad news
> For some years, we of the 11th workshop have been > trying to find Judy Glasner, from Baltimore. Judy was > my best friend from 5th grade all the way through > Workshop and up until college when we all > separated...Judy brought me to Habonim. Last night > ,thanks to efforts of Stan Weintraub, we reconnected > with her sister, Toni, who is a psychologist in San > Diego. Judy passed away [...]
177 219 33_Fw: Fw: MODERATE ISLAM... TOO FEW11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:33:01 -0800394_iso-8859-1
A MEMRI video well worth watching (as all of the MEMRI materials I've seen so far have been).
Steve
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HOW I WISH HE HAD SOME INFLUENCE [...]
397 56 17_Re: More sad news0_13_JLCAA@AOL.COM28_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:29:41 EST498_US-ASCII How sad that we didn't get a chance to see her again. It is indeed a loss for all who once knew her, especially those of us from the 11th. Thanks Stan for tracking down the information. Avi
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454 40 39_Trying to set up a shiddukh (of houses)15_Dr. Don Goelman25_don.goelman@VILLANOVA.EDU30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:04:04 -0500577_ISO-8859-1 Hi,
I'm trying to facilitate a Brooklyn stay for an Israeli family this Pesah. If you can help, please contact me off line.
There are two scenarios: a house swap or a sublet.
The Israelis are a Yerushalmit, her twin daughters (late 20's), one son-in-law and one son-in-law elect. The dates are March 30 to April 9. They need to be in the Park Slope or Prospect Heights neighborhood of Brooklyn (or at least convenient to Prospect Heights, where the US branch of the family lives). A two-bedroom apartment with a living room would be ideal. [...]
495 393 5_Spain11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:20:29 -0800839_iso-8859-1 Simply FYI.
Steve
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Spanish Mayor's Decision to Commemorate 'Palestinian Genocide' On Holocaust Memorial Day 'Shameful'
Update: (January 30, 2007) The so-called "commemoration of the Palestinian genocide" in Ciempozuelos was cancelled following a public outcry and the intervention of the Spanish Foreign Ministry.
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New York, NY, January 26, 2007 ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) strongly condemned the decision of the Mayor of a Spanish city to hold a "commemoration of the Palestinian genocide" on the day of Spain's official Holocaust memorial ceremonies, and called it "shameful." [...]
889 64 11_Form a line13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:30:15 +0200505_us-ascii http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=6436650 78
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954 90 9_Bush joke14_Holtzer Family20_carmdave@URIM.ORG.IL30_Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:56:41 +0200445_windows-1255
Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and George W. Bush went to a fitness spa for some fun. After a stimulating, healthy lunch, all three decided to visit the men's room where they found a strange-looking gent sitting at the entrance.
He said, "Welcome to the gentlemen's room. Be sure to check out our newest feature, a mirror that, if you look into it and say something truthful,you will be rewarded with your wish. [...]
1045 518 62_Fw: To the shores of Tripoli . . .Thomas Jefferson & the Quran11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Sat, 3 Feb 2007 04:55:33 -0800464_iso-8859-1 AOL Email This came from a friend. As far as I know,none of it is fabricated for effect.
Steve
Subject: To the shores of Tripoli . . .Thomas Jefferson & the Quran
Please read the following and you will see why I think an interest in history, particularly American history is so important..... and as Solomon tells us; "There is nothing new under the sun" [...]
1564 26 35_Grim Ending Stirs Quest For Answers11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 00:48:51 -0500688_ISO-8859-1 I am sure you many of you have gotten emails from your synagogues or other Jewish groups about these missing girls. They were found today dead today, apparently of suicide. Please share this article so that people stop circulating the pleas for help in finding them.
Judy Gelman
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/03/AR2007020300986.html
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1591 359 34_[BULK] Hurray! We're Capitulating!13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:48:45 +0200531_ISO-8859-1 THE WEST AND ISLAM
"Hurray! We're Capitulating!"
By Henryk M. Broder
The prevailing feeling among Muslims is that they are being abused by the West. What should we do about it? We might as well surrender. After all, we're already on our way.
This essay is an excerpt of Henryk M. Broder's book "Hurra, Wir Kapitulieren," ("Hurray! We're Capitulating") published by Wolf Jobst Siedler Verlag in 2006. The book spent a number of weeks atop the DER SPIEGEL bestseller list. [...]
1951 157 38_[QUAR] Fw: LA--Hyundai Accent for sale21_avi & batsheva livney20_livney@BARKAI.ORG.IL30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:24:13 +0200397_windows-1255
----- Original Message ----- From: avi & batsheva livney To: Habonet@shamash.org ; ShomerNet@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: LA--Hyundai Accent for sale
Dear all, Posting for a friend:
Left LA for family reasons, 6 months after buying this car new; not going back any time soon -- putting car up for sale: [...]
2109 132 19_Dear President Bush12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:40:25 -0500573_us-ascii Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding [...]
2242 40 23_Re: Dear President Bush11_Sylvia Lask14_SMLBOV@AOL.COM28_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:46:24 EST489_US-ASCII Very refreshing to wakeup to. Thank you Homer & Amnon....Sylvia
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2283 276 23_Re: Dear President Bush13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:52:20 +0200654_us-ascii I owned a Canadian once. It wasn't worth the trouble. Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon hadary Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:40 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Dear President Bush
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as [...]
2560 143 23_Re: Dear President Bush11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:08:20 -0500598_iso-8859-1 MessageI've met people who have considered selling their daughters to Canada. Perhaps they will reconsider now that their dollar is doing better ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Dear President Bush
I owned a Canadian once. It wasn't worth the trouble. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon hadary Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:40 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Dear President Bush [...]
2704 263 23_Re: Dear President Bush6_RDBaum23_rdbaum@NETVISION.NET.IL30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:15:26 +0200531_iso-8859-1 MessageDoesn't anyone remember an episode similar to this on WEST WING Rezzie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Dear President Bush
I owned a Canadian once. It wasn't worth the trouble. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon hadary Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:40 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Dear President Bush [...]
2968 211 23_Re: Dear President Bush12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:51:36 -0800660_iso-8859-1 I wish someone would sell me to Canada- they have national medical care and cheap prescriptions!.....sue
--- RDBaum wrote:
> MessageDoesn't anyone remember an episode similar to > this on WEST WING > Rezzie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Baum > To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: Dear President Bush > > > I owned a Canadian once. It wasn't worth the > trouble. Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh > [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon > hadary > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 [...]
3180 76 39_Re: Grim Ending Stirs Quest For Answers12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:07:29 -0800603_iso-8859-1 This goes to show you how censored or "self-interested" news is. I hadn't heard anything about these missing girls and I think I am a news "freak"- since I need to know what is up for the paper and network...How sad....I went to a shabbat dinner at my friend Tzipporah's ...Another "guest" was Tzvi Small. who lives in Zichron, is "shomer shabbat" and who produces the Grammies. We spent most of the time talking about the world, the political situation, and the Jewish dangers ...Ahmadinajad....and how the world is basically ignoring him. Small was so informed and bright....and I was [...]
3257 106 39_Re: Grim Ending Stirs Quest For Answers11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:12:12 -0500625_ISO-8859-1 Probably because it was thought that they were missing of their own initiative and that happens all the time. THe word was spread privately by emails, espp through synagogues.
Judy
Sue Liberman wrote:
>This goes to show you how censored or >"self-interested" news is. I hadn't heard anything >about these missing girls and I think I am a news >"freak"- since I need to know what is up for the paper >and network...How sad....I went to a shabbat dinner at >my friend Tzipporah's ...Another "guest" was Tzvi >Small. who lives in Zichron, is "shomer shabbat" and >who produces the Grammies. [...]
3364 60 23_Re: Dear President Bush0_14_Ohanka@AOL.COM28_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:17:55 EST592_US-ASCII
In a message dated 2/4/07 9:53:34 AM, jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL writes:
> I owned a Canadian once. It wasn't worth the trouble. Jon > My situation is much worse than that (I suppose because I developed my business sense in Habonim). I married a Canadian. Hank Albert
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3425 319 23_Re: Dear President Bush11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET30_Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:54:43 -0500585_us-ascii Sing along, kids:
O' Canada!
Their dollar's not worth a damn!
Good Canucks function, in America's command!
With glowing hearts we see thee fall!
Straight to hell with thee!
From far and wide, O' Canada,
We will spit on thee!
God made this land
Out of morbid curiosity!
O' Canada
We will spit on thee!
O' Canada
We will spit on thee!
(It's a joke, guys. Relax. Though I could see Bush singing this and being serious about it) [...]
3745 181 28_Fwd: Re: Dear President Bush12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 04:49:03 -0500469_us-ascii These are follow up comments on my posting.
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3927 80 23_Re: Dear President Bush25_Shelly Schonebaum Ephraim22_momsgraphics@GMAIL.COM30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:39:48 -0500572_US-ASCII This material was originally written by a friend of mine, Kent Ashcraft, a musician from the Washington DC area. Kent posted it on the internet some time ago as a facetious response to remarks which Dr. Laura, a homophobic, right-wing radio personality made on her show and in the press. After it made the rounds on the web, the content was taken, pretty much verbatim from Kent's posting by writers of the TV show "The West Wing" and used to counter a Dr. Laura type character's bible quoting venom. After the show aired, Kent hired a lawyer and received a [...]
4008 142 23_Re: Dear President Bush12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:28:09 -0500599_us-ascii Thanks Lon Amnon
----- Original Message ----- From: Shelly Schonebaum Ephraim Date: Monday, February 5, 2007 9:55 am Subject: Re: Dear President Bush To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> This material was originally written by a friend of mine, Kent > Ashcraft, a musician from > the Washington DC area. Kent posted it on the internet some time > ago as > a facetious > response to remarks which Dr. Laura, a homophobic, right-wing > radio > personality made > on her show and in the press. After it made the rounds on the web, > the > content was > taken, [...]
4151 758 42_Fw: Emailing: content.cartoonbox.slate.com11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:27:03 -0800689_iso-8859-1 Emailing: content.cartoonbox.slate.com Passing along:
Steve
Subject: FW: Emailing: content.cartoonbox.slate.com
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4910 49 19_Global warming info16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM30_Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:51:24 -0800719_iso-8859-1 Global warming http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/earlysigns/index.html "Reports from a Warming Planet" takes you to eight locations around the globe - from Bangladesh to Ecuador to Tuvalu - where global warming is already making changes to life and landscape.
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4960 54 9_a request20_Naomi Goldberg Honor18_naomijgh@YAHOO.COM30_Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:20:45 -0800562_iso-8859-1 Chevre--
Please feel free to delete if you don't think this is appropriate for the list, but I'm just trying to get this out as widely as I can.
My husband has Parkinson's disease and we will be participating in the Parkinson's Unity Walk in late April to raise funds for research and advocacy. Some of you were kind enough to sponsor us last year, and I hope others will join in supporting us as well. Last year, with little planning we were able to raise about $3000-. This year we are asking everyone to pass this email along to [...]
5015 87 13_Re: a request12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM30_Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:02:33 -0800598_iso-8859-1 Dear Naomi- If you can't ask your "chevre" for help-especially in such an important venture, then who are we? I think it is appropriate, no, necessary, to feel that you can ask and actually "demand" help...I applaud you and am glad you asked. Thanks--sue
--- Naomi Goldberg Honor wrote:
> Chevre-- > > Please feel free to delete if you don't think this > is appropriate for the list, but I'm just trying to > get this out as widely as I can. > > My husband has Parkinson's disease and we will be > participating in the Parkinson's [...]
5103 410 40_NYT - Arabs Call on Israel to de-Judaize16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET30_Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:16:14 -0500616_ISO-8859-1 The New York Times
------------------------------------------------------------------------ February 8, 2007
Noted Arab Citizens Call on Israel to Shed Jewish Identity
By ISABEL KERSHNER
JERUSALEM, Feb. 7 -- A group of prominent Israeli Arabs has called on Israel to stop defining itself as a Jewish state and become a "consensual democracy for both Arabs and Jews," prompting consternation and debate across the country. [...]
5514 1154 37_Fw: King David in Birmingham, England11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:46:34 -0800417_iso-8859-1
Now for something a bit different.
Steve
Subject: Fw: King David in Birmingham, England
The Jewish school where half the pupils are Muslim King David, in Birmingham, is a state primary where the children learn Hebrew, recite Jewish prayers, eat kosher food and wave Israeli flags. So how come the majority of pupils are followers of Islam? [...]
6669 158 37_Fw: Short video on the Iranian threat11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM30_Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:09:50 -0800830_iso-8859-1 From a friend
Steve
Short video on the Iranian threat
Believe on your feet NOW or believe on your knees later...
THIS IS SCARY !!
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf
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6828 61 44_Re: NYT - Arabs Call on Israel to de-Judaize11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM30_Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:55:28 -0700616_us-ascii Sounds like a great but difficult idea. I've tried to shed mine several times to no avail.
Noah Vail
At 01:16 PM 2/8/2007 -0500, Elihu D. Davison wrote: >b59a3d9.gif > > February 8, 2007
Noted Arab Citizens Call on Israel to Shed Jewish Identity
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6890 58 38_Need exact directions to Tel Ari site!19_Aliya Cheskis-Cotel13_sc523@AOL.COM30_Fri, 9 Feb 2007 03:52:33 -0500
6949 1319 24_WSJ - Iraq: A Better Way16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET30_Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:07:30 -0500825_us-ascii Search Results for Selected Items
The Wall Street Journal
February 9, 2007
COMMENTARY
A Better Way
By MORTON ABRAMOWITZ and LESLIE H. GELB February 9, 2007; Page A11
Not many in Washington think President Bush's military surge will solve Iraq, but there is plenty of enthusiasm for a diplomatic surge. The Iraq Study Group, much of Congress, think-tankers and media pundits urge diplomacy as the way out. "Give diplomacy a chance," they say. "Talk to everybody, especially the bad guys, and we'll find common ground." The general enthusiasm is not surprising, given the decline of diplomacy during the [...]
8269 145 48_Fw: Watch STAR OF DAVID Boxer DMITRY SALITA !!!!11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:02:50 -0800885_Windows-1252
Inspiring and mesmerizing. Well worth the time (eight minutes).
Steve
Subject: Fw: Watch STAR OF DAVID Boxer DMITRY SALITA !!!!
Please take a look at the film of Dmitry Salita, a former Russian from Odessa, now residing and boxing in New York:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idWoU6AL1ws
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8415 327 7_Fw: FW:11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:36:59 -0800445_- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.33/678 - Release Date: 2/9/2007
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8743 47 23_Cool Facts about Israel16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:46:29 -0800545_iso-8859-1 A new spin on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8
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8791 267 27_Sleepwalking with the enemy13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:17:44 +0200677_windows-1255 Sleepwalking with the enemy
By Ruth Dudley Edwards
The conviction this week of a Muslim radical for inciting racial hatred once again highlights the growing threat posed by the pernicious fringe of Islamism. We have only ourselves to blame, says Ruth Dudley Edwards
'UK you will pay, Islam is on its way," is the chilling slogan favoured by Muslim radical Abdul Saleem, who was convicted this week of stirring up racial hatred at a rally in London last year. Addressing the crowd in Belgravia Square, near the Spanish and German embassies, Saleem was filmed saying: "There will come a time [...]
9059 174 37_"Taliban-like" Jewish fundamentalists16_Genevieve Marcus20_drmarcus@PACBELL.NET31_Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:23:27 -0800704_us-ascii "And in a major decision last month a committee of leading ultra-Orthodox rabbis here ruled that Haredi women should no longer be allowed to get academic degrees beyond high school."
Geanie Marcus
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7361060&sc=emaf
NPR Morning Edition February 12, 2007
A group of Israeli women are fighting back against what one called "Taliban-like" Jewish fundamentalists who order women to sit in the back of the bus and to abstain from wearing "immodest" clothing on public bus lines used primarily by ultra-Orthodox Jews. The women have filed a lawsuit in Israel's High Court aimed at reforming the bus lines. Some of the [...]
9234 197 41_Re: "Taliban-like" Jewish fundamentalists11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:51:06 -0500458_us-ascii That's crazy. I live in a very religious area in Brooklyn. Orthodox Jewish families will walk past people heading to the beach and dressed as such, but somehow manage to deal with it! :P
JE
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Genevieve Marcus Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:23 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: "Taliban-like" Jewish fundamentalists [...]
9432 1199 31_Re: Sleepwalking with the enemy12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:21:24 -0500364_windows-1252 Jon, I don't how you find these chilling articles and having found them how you can sleep at night, but I'll give Ruth Dudley Edwards this - she sure can write. Amnon
----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum Date: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:33 pm Subject: Sleepwalking with the enemy To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
10632 127 34_The Putin visit to the Middle East16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:57:28 -0800658_iso-8859-1 THE PUTIN VISIT TO SAUDI ARABIA,QATAR AND JORDAN
by
Dr. Robert O. Freedman
Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Jordan had three major goals. The first was to demonstrate Russia's renewed power and influence in a region where American influence is on the decline. The second was to facilitate Russian economic relations with the countries he visited. The third goal was to continue Russia's effort to minimize Arab support for the Chechen rebellion against Russian control, a rebellion which the rebels are carrying out in the name of Islam. [...]
10760 1495 91_Fw: FW: Fw: Fw: FW: Fw: Fw: =?windows-1255?Q?=F0=EB=FA=E1_=EC=F4=F0=E9_38__=F9=F0=E9=ED!!?=11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:57:08 -0800887_windows-1255 Does anyone have a translation of this article?
Steve
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12256 197 8_Uniforms12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:53:15 -0500613_windows-1252 Haverot-im Until recently the least impressive feature about our army was that its uniforms made soldiers look like a bunch of schleppers. There were nuances at the top and at the bottom. The colored caps usually folded and worn under the epaulet and shoe color distinguished one's unit. Tzanchanim who had ochre shoes while everybody else had to settle for black knew they were distinguished even when they were barefooted. (Barefoot boy with cheek.) The big divide though, was in the color of the uniform. Everybody wore olive drab with the exception of the air force that sported blue. Which [...]
12454 535 25_Israel's surge of despair11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM31_Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:17:24 -0700519_us-ascii
Israel's surge of despair
Top Israeli officials admit last summer's war against Hezbollah was a failure -- and denounce President Bush's actions in the Middle East. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/02/15/israel_despair/print.html By Gregory Levey
Feb. 15, 2007 | Hezbollah operatives plant explosives along the disputed border area between Lebanon and Israel. The Israeli military moves in and destroys them. Israeli and Lebanese forces engage in sporadic gun battles. [...]
12990 75 28_Re: Israel's "state of mind"12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:57:36 -0800528_iso-8859-1 A couple of weeks ago, I sat on a sofa at my friend Tzippi's house. Tzippi is Israeli, and recently became a "ba'alat tshuvah"- she is very "dati"- and on Shabbat- she invites people for dinner and has a wonderful shabbat meal. She has twin girls who are about a year old ( she is 56!!!), a son Michael who is 15, a daughter who was a child actress, and a grown son who was an assistant district attorney, but left to live in the country and bought a small newspaper which he edits. She is an amazing woman, and [...]
13066 290 18_This is weird.....11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:34:51 -0800550_iso-8859-1 I checked this on Snopes and their explanation, pretty much, is that " [something] BULLS--T" has 11 letters also. The contrivance, according to the Snopes explanation, is that you can manipulate numbers to just about anything you'd like. Additionally, there's a "cheat" in that they think there were 64 people on flight 77 and not 65 (I'd hate to think someone will find that one of the passengers was pregnant). There is NO explanation for the last manipulation, involving typing Q33 NY into Word. It is, as the title states, weird. [...]
13357 910 29_Re: Israel's surge of despair11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:35:15 -0800596_iso-8859-1
Phil
Thank you for posting this article. I am sure there are many people that concur with its premises and conclusions. I, for one, do not. (I also don't understand the implications of the diplomat's hanging a picture of Bono behind his desk.)
The Lebanon War had its glitches and failures, no one can deny. For those that have been in or anywhere near war, it is always a cluster-mess. Yes, there were probably a load of surprises. However, this article presses for us to conclude that Israel lost this war. How farther from the truth could this be?! Given [...]
14268 39 23_Where is the outcry????12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:49:26 -0800297_iso-8859-1 According to recent news: 1. Nasrallah isn't even TRYING to hide the fact that he now has MORE weapons than before the war in August and that he is continually being re-armed right under eveyone's noses; he blatenly shouts it out. 2. The soldiers have not been returned ot Israel. [...]
14308 484 12_Apocalyptic?12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:51:43 -0500320_windows-1252
The Four Horsemen Four figures in the Book of Revelation who symbolize the evils to come at the end of the world. The figure representing conquest rides a white horse; war, a red horse; famine, a black horse; and plague, a pale horse. They are often called the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. [...]
14793 649 79_Fw: Irshad Manji-The Australian-Modern Israel is a Far Cry from Old SouthAfrica11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:38:18 -0800818_Windows-1252
Sending this along for comment, feedback, critical review, etc. Steve
Subject: Irshad Manji-The Australian-Modern Israel is a Far Cry from Old SouthAfrica
Modern Israel is a far cry
from old South Africa
by Irshad Manji
The Australian, February 2007
In the past year, a stream of thinkers across the Westfrom Australian writer Antony Loewenstein to US academics John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walthas punctured the usual parameters of debate about Israel. I, for one, welcome any effort to prevent ideas from calcifying into ideologies. As a Muslim refusenik, that's what I do by defying the conventional prejudices of my fellow Muslims. [...]
15443 130 41_Fw: [House-of-humor] Fw: Good News on ABC11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:40:02 -0800794_Windows-1252
This should move the soul of more than just a few of us.
Steve
Subject: Good News on ABC
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15574 498 16_Re: Apocalyptic?13_avi rosenberg16_avi@GEZER.ORG.IL31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:24:25 +0200662_WINDOWS-1252 Amnon, thanks for clarifying the term, Buzaglo test, It's been bandied about a lot lately and I couldn't figure out who this Buzaglo is. Avi
On 2/17/07, amnon hadary wrote: > > ** > > The Four Horsemen > > Four figures in the Book of* *Revelationwho symbolize the evils to come at the end of the world. The figure > representing conquest rides a white horse; war, a red horse; famine, a black > horse; and plague, a pale horse. They are often called the Four Horsemen of > the Apocalypse . > > > > I'm holding [...]
16073 167 29_Re: Israel's surge of despair11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:51:32 -0500451_iso-8859-1
----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Klein To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Israel's surge of despair
Phil
Thank you for posting this article. I am sure there are many people that concur with its premises and conclusions. I, for one, do not. (I also don't understand the implications of the diplomat's hanging a picture of Bono behind his desk.) [...]
16241 96 25_Re Amnon's "apocalyptic?"16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:58:19 -0500616_us-ascii In Habonet 2007-45, Amnon writes that
> ...Yadlin was arrested, found guilty and confessed. He was sentenced > to five years in prison. This case along with the accusation brought > against Avraham Ofer was instrumental in Labor's defeat ending 30 > years of Labor rule in Israel.
It's my recollection (albeit from afar in New York) that the more immediate and proximate scandals that brought Likud to power in 1977 were twofold: 1) Golda Meir's arrogant mis-handling of pre-Yom Kippur war intelligence and 2) the scandal of Leah Rabin's DC bank account. Not that the cases of Yadlin and [...]
16338 99 29_Re: Re Amnon's "apocalyptic?"12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:29:30 -0800604_iso-8859-1 It seems as if Israel is actually very "normal" when it comes to the behavior of its politicians...and while things may seem "bleak"--it is no different from other times when it seemed an impossible situation for Israel to find a way to exist within a sea of hatred, and realizing those around her want her to disappear.....What is important is to remember that I doubt the US would allow for Israel's destruction; that AHmadinajad is now facing opposition from within; that many of these countries are unstable; and that some peace efforts have succeeded in small ways (Egypt; Jordan in [...]
16438 272 107_perhaps you don't like his views on the mid-east, but Jimmy Carter is still doing lots of good in the world11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:04:07 -0500548_iso-8859-1 http://select.nytimes.com/2007/02/18/opinion/18kristof.html
February 18, 2007 Op-Ed Columnist Torture by Worms By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF JIMMA, Ethiopia
Presidents are supposed to be strong, and on his latest visit to Africa Jimmy Carter proved himself strong enough to weep.
The first stop of Mr. Carter's four-nation African trip was Ghana, where he visited his projects to wipe out the Guinea worm, a horrendous two-foot-long parasite that lives inside the body and finally pops out, causing excruciating pain. [...]
16711 101 29_Re: Re Amnon's "apocalyptic?"12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:11:27 -0500595_us-ascii Elihu, I think that Golda's arrogance in the face of the mis-handled early stages of the Yom Kippur War opened the electorate's minds to consider the unthinkable, "maybe god did not confer eternal and unquestioning Labor rule on Israel" But it took four years and two and a half scandals to get around to "throw out the bums." The two scandals were Yadlin and Offer. The half was the Leah Rabin dollar account. The whole account amounted to $11,000. It was money Yitzhak Rabin recieved as lecture fees while he was our ambassador to Washington. Technically he should certainly not [...]
16813 978 36_[QUAR] Fw: Holocaust Remembrance Day14_Holtzer Family20_carmdave@URIM.ORG.IL31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:12:32 +0200465_windows-1255 Subject: Fw: Holocaust Remembrance Day
:
Holocaust Remembrance Day May 2, 2007
Please wait 20 Seconds before you close this e-mail.
This message asks you to do one small act to remember the six
million (6,000,000) Jewish lives that were lost during the Holocaust.
Send this message to everyone you know who is Jewish.
If we reach the goal of reaching six million e-mail names before May 2, [...]
17792 62 30_Dress up your favorite prophet13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:57:53 +0200457_us-ascii http://www.muhammaddressup.com/
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17855 65 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:25:48 -0500692_us-ascii Jon We are not amused.
Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum Date: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:13 pm Subject: Dress up your favorite prophet To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> http://www.muhammaddressup.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > The HABONET mailing list is hosted by > Shamash: The Jewish Network, http://shamash.org, > a service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and > an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ > > To unsubscribe email: HABONET-unsubscribe-request@SHAMASH.ORG > For other options go to: http://listserv.SHAMASH.ORG/ > [...]
17921 114 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:39:51 -0500468_iso-8859-1 Amnon,
What's up with the royal we?
Noam ----- Original Message ----- From: amnon hadary To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet
Jon
We are not amused.
Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum Date: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:13 pm Subject: Dress up your favorite prophet To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
18036 87 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:19:43 -0500609_us-ascii Queen Victoria, old chap.
----- Original Message ----- From: Noam Stopak Date: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:55 pm Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG
> Amnon, > > What's up with the royal we? > > Noam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: amnon hadary > To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet > > > Jon > > We are not amused. > > > Amnon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Baum > Date: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:13 [...]
18124 155 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:20:59 +0200552_us-ascii Amnon
Then don't play with it.
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon hadary Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:26 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet
Jon
We are not amused.
Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum Date: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:13 pm Subject: Dress up your favorite prophet To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
18280 324 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:29:07 -0500635_us-ascii I think it's pretty Goddam funny.
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From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Jonathan Baum Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:21 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet
Amnon
Then don't play with it.
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of amnon hadary Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:26 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet [...]
18605 146 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:42:24 -0800590_iso-8859-1 Ahh, Jon, You bring back the little girl in me!....Just hope the fanatics can't trace email addresses and will want to blow me up!...(I am blown up enough as it is....)- ALso- It didn't work on my MAC!...sue
--- Julie Esris wrote:
> I think it's pretty Goddam funny. > > > > _____ > > From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh > [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On > Behalf Of Jonathan Baum > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:21 PM > To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > Subject: Re: Dress up your favorite prophet > > > > Amnon > > > > Then [...]
18752 30 34_Re: Dress up your favorite prophet0_23_jacknusan@EARTHLINK.NET31_Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:26:37 -0500
18783 140 15_klezwoodaddicts12_Jessica Bonn21_jessicab@BEZEQINT.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:34:14 +0200346_windows-1255 HABONET Digest - 18 Feb 2007 to 19 Feb 2007 (#2007-47) Thank you Noam for that window onto JC's 'midat ha-hesed.' May we all recognize and use our power to do more good in this world, amen. (Dare I contrast this to Barak, who went into business upon leaving office?) And now... for the folk musical version of techiyat hametim: [...]
18924 71 21_Soaking the kibbutzim16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:59:09 -0800396_iso-8859-1 The current negotiations between the Kibbutz Movement, the government and the banks over the relinquishing of 25 percent of the kibbutzim's shares in Tnuva, valued at $100 million, in fulfillment of the Kibbutz Movement's obligations under the "Supplementary Arrangement to the Kibbutzim's Debts," is being viewed by the Finance Ministry as an attempt to evade those obligations. [...]
18996 44 24_Cool facts about Israel.12_Meir Hurwitz16_meir69@GMAIL.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:49:55 +0300482_ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8
Meir
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19041 50 11_paper clips16_Katherine Lavine26_holycowfoods@EARTHLINK.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:50:06 -0800517_US-ASCII Jewish Geography time: I just watched the movie "Paper Clips", was that David Twersky in the audience at the end? What an inspiring project that was!
Katherine Lavine holycowfoods@earthlink.net
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19092 27 11_apocalyptic16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:49:29 -0500476_ISO-8859-1 Amnon, Thanks for the clarification. My recollection is that the Yadlin & Offer stories just didn't make it to this side of the Atlantic. Do you think that the corruption scandals around Sharon & Olmert (not to mention BB or for that matter Barak), and the sexual harrassment/rape scandals of Ramon & Katsav might open the electorate's minds that perhaps god didn't confer eternal unquestioning rule on Kadima or Likud either, not to mention Labor?..... ELIHU [...]
19120 99 44_problems with email/electronic communication13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:17:44 -0800603_iso-8859-1 I thought this was somewhat interesting food for thought regardind internet communications in general, and email lists such as this one. ___ |Y| ^^^
Published in today's NYT, online edition, at the following URL:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/20/health/psychology/20essa.html
Essay Flame First, Think Later: New Clues to E-Mail Misbehavior
By DANIEL GOLEMAN Published: February 20, 2007
Jett Lucas, a 14-year-old friend, tells me the kids in his middle school send one other a steady stream of instant messages through the day. But theres a problem. [...]
19220 19 12_Islamophobia13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:12:43 +0200468_us-ascii http://www.jesusandmo.net/2007/02/08/race/
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19240 488 48_Re: problems with email/electronic communication13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:00:13 +0200442_us-ascii I could take this type of article a lot more seriously if all of my emails actually got published on this list and if I could read all of the emails sent by others!
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Yuval Warshai Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:18 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: problems with email/electronic communication [...]
19729 45 48_Re: problems with email/electronic communication11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:25:05 -0500642_us-ascii yeah, yeah, yeah, Jon. Blame the list, blame the technology, blame Islam. Keep the finger pointing outward. What ever happened to personal responsibility?
:-)
Noam
---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:00:13 +0200 >From: Jonathan Baum >Subject: Re: problems with email/electronic communication >To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG > > I could take this type of article a lot more > seriously if all of my emails actually got published > on this list and if I could read all of the emails > sent by others! > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual [...]
19775 87 27_Re: Where is the outcry????13_richard smith21_rdsmith1957@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:35:23 -0800584_iso-8859-1 I suppose the outcry about that is about the same place as the outcry about the hundreds of Lebenese taken prisoner by Israel during its extended visit to Lebenon in the eighties and ninties that are still being held in Israeli prisons.
Sue Liberman wrote: According to recent news: 1. Nasrallah isn't even TRYING to hide the fact that he now has MORE weapons than before the war in August and that he is continually being re-armed right under eveyone's noses; he blatenly shouts it out. 2. The soldiers have not been returned ot Israel. [...]
19863 83 27_Re: Where is the outcry????14_Holtzer Family20_carmdave@URIM.ORG.IL31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:53:09 +0200434_iso-8859-1 Right now Israel is too busy slinging mud at the Police head officers and other politicians. The Chief of Police just resigned and the possible replacements are all too scared of getting hit by the mud to talk about stepping up to the position....
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: richard smith To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Where is the outcry???? [...]
19947 75 27_Re: Where is the outcry????12_Sue Liberman20_fiddlebach@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:25:51 -0800454_iso-8859-1 I wasn't referring to Israel....I was refeerring to the rest of the world and the UN participants, who so coyly forced the edn of theconflict by imposing conditions they knew would never be abided by ( sorry for the dangling participles!). They are always so quick to ciriticize ( as are some of you leftists out thee)///, and yet they never work to make sure what is good for Israel happens...it only goes to intensify the hypocrisy sue [...]
20023 567 26_JTA - Degania-A Privatizes16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:34:38 -0500627_us-ascii
Breaking News First kibbutz going private
The first-ever kibbutz has decided to embrace a more capitalistic wage system.
In a move that Israeli pundits said sounded the death knell for the traditional kibbutz lifestyle, Deganya-A in the Galilee voted this week to allow its members to earn and keep private salaries rather than continuing to funnel all income to a communal pool. [...]
20591 336 14_Apocalypse Now12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:21:10 -0500639_iso-8859-1
Haverim/ot Now we come to now. The tragedy of what happened to Israel, the promising welfare commonwealth, coming at us out of the projection room has a subtext: how did we prolapse, degenerate into a commonplace ordinary society? The two stars, holdovers from the earlier four- horsemen-of-the-Apocalypse are Ehud and Hiam. Unlike Asher and Avraham (see Apocalyptic? Feb. 17) who were just out getting some for themselves, Ehud and Hiam were demolition bound consciously seeking to demolish the Histadrut. Ehud Olmert, born in 1945 five years earlier than Ramon had the first try. In 1990 as Minister of Health he [...]
20928 101 57_Expert Goes On Record: Bin Laden 9/11 Confession Is Bogus11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:30:02 -0700647_us-ascii Just another nail in the coffin of the bogus war on terra. The Fascisti need bogeymen to keep the sheeple trembling and compliant. Hate them Arabs and give us your money, suckers.
Cui bono, sonny?
Phil
A leading expert on Osama Bin Laden has officially gone on the record saying that he believes the so called "9/11 Confession" tape, released shortly after the attacks, is an outright fake that has been used by US intelligence agencies to deflect attention from "conspiracy theories" about 9/11. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University's Religious Studies program, joined Kevin Barrett last Friday on [...]
21030 461 24_Fw: Bob Dylan on Israel!11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:28:59 -0800595_iso-8859-1
I don't think I sent this before.
For you.
Steve
Subject: Bob Dylan on Israel!
Subject: Bob Dylan on Israel and Anti-Semitism
Back in 1983 Bob Dylan wrote "Neighborhood Bully" and sang it on an album entitled "Infidels". "Neighborhood Bully" is an amazing pro-Israel song, a commentary on the Jewish people and their contribution to the world; on the eternity of the Jewish people; on the world's hypocrisy; as well as the persistence of anti-Semitism over the centuries. [...]
21492 144 24_Re: Bob Dylan on Israel!11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:09:21 -0700450_us-ascii Hallelujah Steve! Zimmy also gave us these inspiring words for Jews to live by. Read em and weep.
There's a Man up on a cross and He's been crucified. Do you have any idea why or for who He died?
I was blinded by the devil, Born already ruined, Stone-cold dead As I stepped out of the womb. By His grace I have been touched, By His word I have been healed, By His hand I've been delivered, By His spirit I've been sealed. [...]
21637 114 21_Asa Kasher on Judaism16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:31:05 -0800915_iso-8859-1 Asa Kasher on Judaism
What would Professor Kasher ask Ecclesiastes if they were to meet? What book would he bring with him to the synagogue on Yom Kippur? The author of the IDFs ethical code answers our questions Asa Kasher Published: 02.19.07, 16:25 / Israel Culture
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21752 351 18_Re: Apocalypse Now13_avi rosenberg16_avi@GEZER.ORG.IL31_Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:49:16 +0200626_ISO-8859-1 Amnon I seem to recall some serious monetary scandals in the Histadrut in the 80's (Yeruham Meshel and friends) which I think you've omitted in your quick essay. Avi Rosenberg
On 2/20/07, amnon hadary wrote: > > > > Haverim/ot > > Now we come to now. The tragedy of what happened to Israel, the promising > welfare commonwealth, coming at us out of the projection room has a subtext: > how did we prolapse, degenerate into a commonplace ordinary society? The > two stars, holdovers from the earlier four- horsemen-of-the-Apocalypse are > Ehud and Hiam. Unlike Asher and [...]
22104 422 17_Conspiracy idiots13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:18:12 +0200429_us-ascii I wouldn't normally post an article by George Monbiot, a commentator with whom I agree about absolutely nothing, but this caught my eye. Even he's fed up with the nutters. Halavi etzlainu. Jon
9/11 fantasists pose a mortal danger to popular oppositional campaigns
These conspiracy idiots are a boon for Bush and Blair as they destroy the movements some of us have spent years building [...]
22527 560 25_Outreach circus in Canada13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:40:12 +0200536_windows-1255 The sound and the fury of ethnic outreach RCMP, CSIS listen as communities vent, but is it getting anywhere?
Stewart Bell National Post
Saturday, February 17, 2007
TORONTO - The Cross-Cultural Roundtable on Security had a noble mission when it was set up three years ago: to engage the country's ethnic communities in Canada's fight against terrorism. Some now call it the "circus." [...]
23088 479 21_Re: Conspiracy idiots11_Julie Esris20_jesris@OPTONLINE.NET31_Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:45:43 +0000544_us-ascii I have seen "Loose Change." I don't know what to believe, but it is worth watching. There are so many holes in both the official story and the conspiracy theory. I hate it when people say that they're 100% sure it is a conspiracy, and I also hate it when people say that Bush had no intelligence that knew of it beforehand, and that he was merely defending our freedom (if I hear the word "freedom" one more time... it's a term used so gratuitiously that it ceases to have meaning and becomes part of Bush rhetoric) by going into [...]
23568 796 18_Re: Apocalypse Now12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:01:24 -0500596_windows-1252 Avi this Time magayine piece is all I could find on Meshel. But I'll keep looking Amnon Begin seeks to join "the family of well-run nations" First Israeli: "It's simple. We let the Israeli pound fall in value, allow free exchange of dollars, Israeli exports become dirt cheap, and in the long run the economy is strengthened." Second Israeli: "And in the short run?" First Israeli: "We starve." Like those two characters in a Jerusalem Post cartoon, most Israelis last week seemed to be exploring a new economic landscape with little joy, a dash of mordant wit and a surprising [...]
24365 737 25_Re: Asa Kasher on Judaism12_amnon hadary22_gershon-keileh@013.NET31_Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:24:55 -0500357_iso-8859-1 Rozzie I think it's time to put together a Source Book for the movement. You are emninently qualified to do it. The Assa Kasher piece could be a very fitting opener. Amnon ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Barland Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:46 pm Subject: Asa Kasher on Judaism To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
25103 213 24_Re: Bob Dylan on Israel!11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Thu, 22 Feb 2007 06:12:15 -0800451_iso-8859-1
Phil
I know about this phase in Dylan's journey. It has nothing I relate to, therefore I didn't submit this one to Habonet. I know you sent it to make a point, but it went zoom over my head. Could you please break it down for me?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Safier" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Bob Dylan on Israel! [...]
25317 759 49_[Fwd: Search for Jewish Child Abducted by Father]11_Judy Gelman16_gelman@EROLS.COM31_Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:37:40 -0500364_ISO-8859-1 This came to me from someone I know well, who got it from her cousin. Thought some of you might be interested in spreading it. Judy
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Search for Jewish Child Abducted by Father Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:20:55 -0500 From: Sadowsky, Shelley To: ADATSHALOM@SHAMASH.ORG [...]
26077 84 24_Re: Bob Dylan on Israel!11_Phil Safier17_psafier@ELIXA.COM31_Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:16:57 -0700526_us-ascii Steve,
Thanks for making my point. You don't relate to him about Jesus but you do when he stands up for Israel. No biggie. Just another cognitive dissonance. Rock on!
I think we can all agree with "Rainy Day Woman #12&35"
Well, they'll stone ya when you're trying to be so good, They'll stone ya just a-like they said they would. They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to go home. Then they'll stone ya when you're there all alone. But I would not feel so all alone, Everybody must get stoned. [...]
26162 259 33_Lest the sword slip from our hand13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:23:07 +0200571_us-ascii Lest the sword slip from our hand By Ze'ev Schiff When Yaakov Peri stepped down as chief of the Shin Bet, in 1994, Jibril Rajoub, then head of Preventive Security Services in the West Bank, called Peri to express his sorrow. "This is a terrible blow to the security of the state!" said Rajoub. The state he was talking about was Israel. And the fact of the matter is that Rajoub, in his day, did work hard to prevent the second Intifada. [...]
26422 151 24_Re: Bob Dylan on Israel!11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:43:10 -0800613_iso-8859-1
Phil
Now THIS one I understand. I guess this means we "agree" on something.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Safier" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Bob Dylan on Israel!
> Steve, > > Thanks for making my point. You don't relate to him about Jesus but you do > when he stands up for Israel. No biggie. Just another cognitive dissonance. > Rock on! > > I think we can all agree with "Rainy Day Woman #12&35" > > Well, they'll stone ya when you're trying to be so good, > [...]
26574 165 37_Fw: John Edwards: Israel World Threat11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:20:17 -0800735_Windows-1252 Sending along:
Steve
Subject: John Edwards: Israel World Threat
He was nearly our Vice President!
Edwards: "Perhaps the Greatest Short-Term Threat to World Peace Is the Possibility That Israel Would Bomb Iran's Nuclear Facilities"
Hillary Spot reader Michael points out this little gem in Peter Bart's column on John Edwards' comments in Hollywood:
There are other emerging fissures, as well. The aggressively photogenic John Edwards was cruising along, detailing his litany of liberal causes last week until, during question time, he invoked the "I" word Israel. Perhaps the greatest short-term threat to world peace, Edwards remarked, was the possibility [...]
26740 156 67_Fwd: Re: Fw: John Edwards: Israel World Threat, HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG13_richard smith21_rdsmith1957@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:33:16 -0800549_iso-8859-1
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26897 49 12_Amos Oz - 0716_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:33:59 -0800632_iso-8859-1 http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3368550,00.html An interview with Amos Oz. The article is in Hebrew. There is also an audio component if you want to hear it.
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26947 729 54_HaAretz - Good & Bad Reasons Why the Left Hates Israel16_Elihu D. Davison25_elihu.davison@VERIZON.NET31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:12:20 -0500680_us-ascii
| Fri., February 23, 2007 Adar 5, 5767 | |
Haaretz israel news English
Ten reasons the left hates Israel - five good, five bad By Bradley Burston
A few thoughts engendered by the controversy over Alvin H. Rosenfeld's article "'Progressive'" Jewish Thought and the New Anti-Semitism."
Five of the following are reasonable. Five are not. [...]
27677 100 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:03:29 -0500557_iso-8859-1 Lest the sword slip from our handI stopped wasting my time reading Schiff's articles many years ago. He's only gotten much worse since, judging by this bad piece of "moderate" analysis. A very mediocre right-wing (even though he himself and most israelis see him as expressing the mainstream "consensus") commentator. Definitely not worth the time and intellectual effort. ___ |Y| ^^^ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Baum To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:23 AM Subject: Lest the sword slip from our hand [...]
27778 690 19_from Rozzie Barland13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:20:36 -0500627_iso-8859-1 From kibbutz secretary to board chairman
By Daniel Ben Simon
In the stubborn battle between them, gray reality prevailed over utopia. The last round ended last week, when hundreds of members voted at the polling booths placed all over the kibbutz. When the votes were counted, it turned out that life is stronger than vision: Almost all the members of Kibbutz Degania A (Aleph) voted against the cooperative way of life that was practiced for almost 100 years there, and ratified its replacement with an innovative system that is remarkably similar to the change taking place in Israeli society - [...]
28469 187 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:55:12 +0200524_us-ascii Funny how, according to your own definition, Zeev Schiff is considered mainstream consensus by a majority here but to you he's mediocre and right-wing. Who's correct?
Yuval, if you think that Zeev Schiff is right wing, just wait until the next election. You'll be wishing with all your heart that people with Schiff's opinions had won. Of course, if you believe that anyone to the right of Meretz is "right-wing" than anything is possible. Back here in the real world, we have to live with the results. [...]
28657 295 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand13_Yuval Warshai20_warshy@SBCGLOBAL.NET31_Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:06:27 -0500617_iso-8859-1 MessageThat is precisely the problem. Olmert and even Sharon were accused by the Likud before the last elections of something akin to treason for daring to recognize that the occupation of the territories captured in 1967 is actually harming Israel in the long run. Now, of course, Olmert does not have the stature and charisma of the belated Sharon, and he also got himself in a military mess when he was pulled into an ill-timed and ill-prepared military offernsive gamble in Lebanon against Hizballah by the flying commander-in-chief Halutz. So the end of the occupation, which had come briefly in [...]
28953 378 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:13:52 +0200377_us-ascii Again with the Russians. What's with you and the Russians? And WTF does Larissa Trembovler have to do with anything?
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Yuval Warshai Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:06 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand [...]
29332 226 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand28_Michal and Efraim Perlmutter20_habesor@SMILE.NET.IL31_Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:46:22 +0200594_iso-8859-1 MessageYuval,
While the current and past leaderships of the state are certainly subject to criticism for various acts of commission and omission, there is something lacking in much of your comment. Years ago, during the Oslo peace process, I was struck by the fact that the right wing comentators of the process had a lot of criticisms to make but had almost nothing to offer in terms of a program for making peace with the Palestinians. If Israel is suffering from a malaise at the moment, it is not from the actions of Olmert, Peretz or even Larissa Trembovler. Rather [...]
29559 351 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand28_Michal and Efraim Perlmutter20_habesor@SMILE.NET.IL31_Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:46:23 +0200641_iso-8859-1 Message -----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG]On Behalf Of Yuval Warshai Sent: 24 2007 19:06 Subject: Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand
That is precisely the problem. Olmert and even Sharon were accused by the Likud before the last elections of something akin to treason for daring to recognize that the occupation of the territories captured in 1967 is actually harming Israel in the long run. Now, of course, Olmert does not have the stature and charisma of the belated Sharon, and he also got himself in a military mess when he was [...]
29911 95 37_Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand11_Noam Stopak21_nstopak@STARPOWER.NET31_Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:01:53 -0500410_iso-8859-1 MessageSounds like a great prescription for us all ----- Original Message ----- From: Michal and Efraim Perlmutter To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:46 AM Subject: Re: Lest the sword slip from our hand
...
I personally think that it is time for the left to discard the old slogans and begin some creative thinking about a process leading to peace. [...]
30007 141 70_Fw: A Telegraph reader thought you would be interested in this article11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:16:33 -0800349_iso-8859-1
Subject: A Telegraph reader thought you would be interested in this article
Depending on your email program, you may be able to click on the link in the email. Alternatively, you may have to open a web browser, such as Firefox or Internet Explorer, and copy the link over into the address bar. [...]
30149 316 33_Fw: Can't keep them Israelis down11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:21:56 -0800701_iso-8859-1
Sending this along unabridged.
Steve
Subject: Can't keep them Israelis down
Found this bit of sunshine in today's Washington Times blog:
Israel's economy leaps
By Abraham Rabinovich THE WASHINGTON TIMES February 26, 2007
JERUSALEM - Israel's economy continued to bound forward with growth above 5 percent for the third straight year in 2006, despite Palestinian unrest and last year's border war in southern Lebanon. The Central Bureau of Statistics in Jerusalem reported last week that the cost of the war was only 0.3 percent of the gross domestic product, not 1 percent as had been estimated, leaving growth in 2006 [...]
30466 440 33_Re: Can't keep them Israelis down13_Jonathan Baum19_jonbaum@KSASA.CO.IL31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:11:24 +0200604_us-ascii http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2007/02/tavor21-rifle-headed-into-servic e-with-indian-special-forces/index.php
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Klein Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:22 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Fw: Can't keep them Israelis down
Sending this along unabridged.
Steve
Subject: Can't keep them Israelis down
Found this bit of sunshine in today's Washington Times blog:
Israel's economy leaps [...]
30907 194 33_Re: Can't keep them Israelis down14_Holtzer Family20_carmdave@URIM.ORG.IL31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:34:05 +0200538_iso-8859-1 Messagein contrast with the US market which took a nosedive yesterday........
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Klein Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:22 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Fw: Can't keep them Israelis down
Sending this along unabridged.
Steve
Subject: Can't keep them Israelis down
Found this bit of sunshine in today's Washington Times blog: [...]
31102 71 33_Re: Can't keep them Israelis down16_Rosalind Barland18_rbarland@YAHOO.COM31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:14:46 -0800637_iso-8859-1 Outsource the Cabinet? By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Yes, it’s true, a picture is worth a thousand words — but some are worth a whole dictionary. I came across one the other day on BBC.com. The story was headlined “Israeli Minister in Vision Gaffe.” Next to it is a picture showing Israel’s defense minister, Amir Peretz, inspecting troops on the Golan Heights alongside Israel’s military chief of staff, Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi. Both men are peering into the distance through binoculars, but with one big difference: Mr. Peretz was watching the maneuvers through binoculars with the lens caps still on. ... “According [...]
31174 156 33_Fw: Can't keep them Israelis down11_lewis levin19_lyaron@INTER.NET.IL31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:47 +0200292_ISO-8859-1 The strike was called no simply to pay the wages of municipal employees, but back wages in some cases up to two years.
The strike was called off with a promise of the Prime Minister to take solve the problem. We shall see if the problem is solved before this Passover. [...]
31331 446 64_Fw: Our New Video: What Every American Needs to Know About Jihad11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:44:03 -0800713_iso-8859-1
Forwarding this from the Foundation. The videos are hokey, and the accompanying music even more so, but the article deserves a read.
Steve
Subject: Our New Video: What Every American Needs to Know About Jihad
Dear DHFC Supporter,
This week, the David Horowitz Freedom Center (DHFC) launched the second flash video of its Terrorism Awareness Project. What Every American Needs to Know About Jihad reviews the history of recent terrorist attacks against America and the West and reveals the objectives of radical jihadists. The video is a dramatic four-minute warning that the agenda of jihad is global domination and that [...]
31778 399 37_Fw: Law & Order: Criminal Intent "30"11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:14:25 -0800613_iso-8859-1
Subject: Fw: Law & Order: Criminal Intent "30"
from my brother, Albert
Subject: Law & Order: Criminal Intent "30"
Sue and I watched L&O: Criminal Intent last night and were blindsided by the anti-Israel propaganda. Just about all incarnations of L&Os contain left wing propaganda but this was the first out-and-out attack on Israel. The producer is another Jew in the ranks of leftist anti-American, anti-Israel Jews who support Palestinians, illegal aliens, Arab terrorist organizations, and Muslims of any persuasion. [...]
32178 140 41_Re: Fw: Law & Order: Criminal Intent "30"0_13_Mmxmm@AOL.COM29_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:35:26 EST328_US-ASCII
Thanks for sharing Steve. This helps a lot to further understand where you are coming from (as if that were necessary) in that this letter from your brother demonstrates that it must run in the family.
You probably don't believe the stories of Israeli's having done such things in real life anyhow. [...]
32319 467 41_Re: Fw: Law & Order: Criminal Intent "30"11_Batel Libes25_batel_libes@EARTHLINK.NET31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:42:57 -0800506_us-ascii Steve, too bad your brother didn't tell you about the entire storyline-a story isn't a story unless it is told in full and the listeners get to form their own conclusion on what the story meant.
Batel
-----Original Message----- From: Habonim Dror Alumni Virtual Machaneh [mailto:HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG] On Behalf Of Mmxmm@AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:35 PM To: HABONET@SHAMASH.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Law & Order: Criminal Intent "30" [...]
32787 768 65_Fw: Global Forum for Combating Antisemitism Convenes in Jerusalem11_Steve Klein26_kleinsdesigns@SOCAL.RR.COM31_Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:48:57 -0800443_Windows-1252
----- Original Message ----- From: Harry W. Gluckman To: Harry W. ' Gluckman Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Fw: Global Forum for Combating Antisemitism Convenes in Jerusalem
Global Forum for Combating Antisemitism Convenes in Jerusalem to Strategize on Threats to Israel and Jewish Communities
By Alan Schneider, Director, B'nai B'rith World Center, Jerusalem [...]